I hate this shit. We always have the dumbest laws

I hate this shit. We always have the dumbest laws

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>compulsory at 21 for men only

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Voting isnt compulsory un México, i havent voted since 2009, mainly because i work in an opinion poll firm so im working during the votings

Whait, you let 16 year olds vote?

Does that even work in the DRCongo?

tell me about Australian compulsory voting

If Brazil didn't have compulsory voting, no one would go vote and smart candidates would constantly stay in power by simply buying voters.

>tfw never voted before and never plan to

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Dumb candidates can also buy votes

It's not really compulsory here, you can just say you got something to do and pay a 2 R$ fine

i've never voted though
so
pretty much
BULLSHIT

I hate people like you who underestimate the people and think what's best for everyone so you who is the GENIUS have to force people do to what you think is best. NO, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR YOURSELF. LET ME TELL YOU WHAT TO DO!
This country is authoritarian by nature and people like you are the best example of it.

So what you're saying it's that it is compulsory.

well instread they can just buy publicity and media to brainwash people

>You are a free people
>Which is why we're going to force you to vote
Unsurprisingly all the countries with compulsory voting are meme countries and shitholes.

No seriously, who thought it was a good idea to let 16 year olds vote?

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The left, probably. It's in the interest of the left to get as many non-net taxpayers to vote as possible. Which is why the left also supported female suffrage and has aligned itself with feminism, among others. Also why they love mass migration.

I fucking WISH America was one of these. If you want abstain from a vote there should be an option on the form but people should have to turn in something IMO. Low voter participation is a major problem here.

Maybe in Kinshasa?

nah fuck off

Republican detected. How's the rich banker dick treating you?

younger people also tend to vote left, so a lower voting age always benefit the socialist parties.

Paying the fine takes longer and is more complicated than just voting.

>younger people also tend to vote left
Yeah, because they don't begin to work until after university and don't start earning significant money (and therefore transform into net taxpayers) until after 30. Restricting voting to men over the age of 25 would kill the left, even in Sweden.

>conservatives/libertarians are always against compulsory voting laws
>conservatives/libertarians always win in areas of low voter turn out
think you makes really

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Im independent but I upvoted your post

Nah im independent, i just dont want some shitty fine for not voting. I couldnt give a shit who wins the elections. If it really turns to shit because of an election outcome then I could just leave the country (dual citizen)

You really believe dems dont take that banker cock aswell?, Parties come and go, but economic power always remain

yes, it became a thing a few years ago because Peronists were in power and they famously indoctrinate the youth, so they'd be the ones benefiting from this.

washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2012/11/01/argentina-voting-age/

Of course the Democrat politicians take banker cock, but as voters we try to at least lube that fucker up first.

t. wants to open the borders and flood the country with low cost workers so his slave masters will get the cheapest labor possible

That the best one.

Unfortunatelly he is right. Full anarchy is good utopy.

>full anarchy
what the everloving fuck are you talking about? It's the RIGHT of people to not want to go voting, you fucking neanderthal.

>Voting
Being willingly ignorant of the fact that you're swimming against a tide of slow degradation.

> We always have the dumbest laws
Compulsory military service, prison inmates can leave in holidays, politicians cannot be arrested, ... Yeah, you are right.

>politicians cannot be arrested
whoa, fuck that

I think it's better. Voting should be a duty, not merely a right

Fucking Peronism man. Indoctrination.
Even so, they couldn't win
>no vuelven más

>prison inmates can leave in holidays

That's not bad. As long as you select good ones that behaved well.

>*do not allow military members to vote

hold up what did they mean by this?

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we had two dictatorships. One in the 30s and another in 1964s. Both were according to the army because of commies. After it ended they made a new constitution in 1988 so that was the context at the moment.

>i am 30 years old
>have never voted in my life

i just can't be bothered, i was taught from a young age that all parties are shit and all polititians are snake oil salesmen

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continuation:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_Brazilian_coup_d'état

^ because of this the left gained power when it ended in 1985

Qual o cúmulo do desperdício?
R: Uma Kombi cair de um precipício com 6 políticos. Na Kombi cambem 12.

I think it's accually a good thing. It's only a small fine if you don't and you don't get fined if you never register. But what it does do is moderates politics because they don't have to convince people to come out and vote, which goes well with the party choosing the election date so we don't get 2 years of drawn out election campaigning.
And it means a lot of random meme parties get some seats and if you can't be fucked voting you can just draw a dick on the paper.

wouldn't depriving the military of the ability to participate in the political system just make them more likely to launch a coup and overthrow it?

é isso mesmo, cara

pardos are not people

They won't launch another coup unless communists go out hand. Some of the population were protesting and actually begging the army to intervene since 2014 to protect us from communism. pic related

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>compulsory voting
WTF? I didn't know it was a thing. How do you enforce that? is that bait?

is that south brazil?

yes but as it is not compulsory, they'll only vote if they're actually engaged/premature politically and usually won't be a useless vote

my opinion might be a bit biased since we have compulsory voting, but I don't get people who won't vote at all. it's ok if you don't feel informed enough, but if you actually believe in something, why not try to make it real?

If you don't go to vote, then you have to pay a small fine

you are right. in theory. but in practice you have two shitty choices. like fuking trump vs fucking hillary. what are you going to do? you just say meh we'll be alright. muh checks and balances. hopefully. etc

Yes as others said it's probably a reflex of populism, and now it's too late to change because no one wants to be the one to go to propose the bill to take rights away.
You know what's even funnier? If you're 16 you can vote but you can't be prosecuted for crimes yet. It's the other way around in most countries.

This desu
People here are forced to vote even if they're going to cast a blank ballot because all the candidates are shit and you don't want to feel responsible for the shitshow the country will be in the next 4 years.

You have to pay a small fine. You can't get into public jobs or public universities if you don't show that you're 100% ok with the voting stuff

small fine is no problem. i guess. but no access to public jobs and universities that's a different story. so it is a pretty compelling reason to always vote! i mean i don't have a strong opinion about whether it is good or bad to have a mandatory vote. maybe if i HAD to vote i would actually THINK about those two fuckers in 2016 to decide who is less shittier... but it would be a tough choice anyway. i dunno.

I think if everyone who thinks like this had gone and voted for Ted or Bernie or whatever, they could actually have made a change. most people think similarly in Brazil, instead of voting for the candidates they think alike, they'll vote for the one that has better chances against the one they don't want in charge of the country. this doesn't make sense at all.

oh nevermind, it doesn't work like this in the US. I'm sorry user, forget what I said

But if you pay the fine you get "cleared", I think. I had never to pay the fine.
I've read people saying that the problem isn't the fine, the problem is the line that you have to face in order to pay the fine.

Is this the dumb laws thread?
Let's share our respective dumb laws:
>You can't divorce
>You can legally rape a woman as long as you marry her after
>You can legally kill both the man and your wife if you catch wife and the man having sex

>protect us from communism
ah yes, evil, evil communism.

i'll never vote in my life lol

literally the most NPC thing you could do

What will happen to the japanese diaspora when he takes power? Will he throw them back to Japan?

some people also literally e at shit

>letting teenagers vote

Brazil what the fuck. Teenagers are dumb as shit.

are you implying that there are no dumb adults?
are you implying that you should only have the right to vote if you have a certain IQ?

This laws are good and were only repealed in the west because of the left you dumb gook

Nothing. Don't believe the leftist media. Anyways. Why would we hurt the japanese? They're inoffensive.
This is why people will vote for Bolsonaro:
Because the worker's party has been in power since 2002 and we've been through a lot of corruption. They gave our money to socialist countries. They say good things about Maduro and Fidel. They're power hungry... etc...
Because crime has risen when they were in power and he is promising to be tough on crime.
Because he doesn't have corruption scandals
Because he says he wants economic freedom
Because he says the left is trying to brainwash kids in schools and we can't allow it
Because he is always praising God and we are a christian country and more shit like that
he says the worker's party took our right of self-defense and guns and now only the bad people have guns. He wants people to have the right to have guns at home so they can protect themselves.
He says cops should be praised when they kill a criminal if they react.
He talks about about some crazy law that we have that if someone invades your house and you shoot the invader on his legs more than once you can get more time than the guy who invaded your house for "excess of self-defense" or some shit like that.

kill yourself

Persuade me and I might think about it