It's interesting to think that in both World Wars it was American involvement that allowed the Entente/Allies to win...

It's interesting to think that in both World Wars it was American involvement that allowed the Entente/Allies to win. In either scenario a completely neutral USA would have resulted in Germany achieving it's goals

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maybe in the second but probably not in the first

The French army was dangerously close to having a full scale mutiny with 43% of their divisions being affected. Primarily this meant entire units would refuse orders to take offensive actions but one of the promises used to appease them was that there would be no more large scale offensives until American troops arrived.

I don't think Germany would have beaten Russia even without USA

USA supplied Russia with lots of supplies like food and trucks through lend-lease, without US aid they would have had difficulty feeding their army and populace as Germany invaded

>supplied
For money! Americans always thought about money. That is way you have no soul guys.

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>The U.S. asked for $1.3B at the cessation of hostilities to settle the debt, but was only offered $170M by the USSR. The dispute remained unresolved until 1972, when the U.S. accepted an offer from the USSR to repay $722M linked to grain shipments from the U.S., with the remainder being written off.
Russians always try to skip the bill!

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We betrayed our white race

Don't you think that we already payed too big price to the world? Not even in ww2.

Also as I know it was Putin who payed the rest to you

cute

lmao nice bait. Canada saved the day both times. Well trained and eager to fight Canadians like my grandfather were tactical specialists, exceeding in every way military historians can fathom. Small numbers of elite troops including my grandfather's Winnipeg Rifles regiment (or "Winnies" as they preferred) would sneak behind enemy lines and take out key objectives while the american hoards ran headlong into machine gun fire. The germans would often cower in fear at Ypres, Somme, Vimy, Stalingrad (to name a few) when they heard the elite Canadian shock troops were making their rounds. They called us 'der mapfel traume' - the maple dreams, because they would go to bed and would worry about not waking up. Anyone who died this way was said to have been 'sukiren' - syruped. Yes Canada has been first man in last man out for awhile.

If anything its the other way around. Sooner or later the Soviets would've pushed to Berlin, but WWI could've actually gone either way if certain circumstances were different. If Britain hadn't joined the war, for example, France would've lost.

Based and highly redpilled

>For money! Americans always thought about money. That is way you have no soul guys.
Yeah literally dismantling and stealing most of the industrial infrastructure of your new "allies" (puppets) is the real friendly and benevolent method pioneered by great and benevolent Russia.

based and leafpilled

man imagine if the US allied with us just once. would be so easy

>man imagine if the US allied with us just once. would be so easy
That's the plot of Harry Turtledove's alternate-fiction series Timeline 191 where Britain and France help the Confederacy in the Civil War. America and Germany win WWI, America annexes Canada and Germany establishes a proto-EU with their new hegemony over much of Europe.

Holy shit based

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woah shit fuck omg

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Thanks for mentioning that, I've never heard of it before but love alt-history stuff