Halloween, Día de Muertos

Halloween is not religious at all

But it didnt worked, ended up being super pagan. We have a smaller vertion here

misunderstood op with day of the dead
halloween for anglos stems from pagan gaelic culture

still better than this

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when she's weedman's wife she looks like this

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but when she's sophie gregoire and selling a book in quebec she looks like this

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He looks kinda qt
Do people in Quebec and the Maritimes also do Halloween?

You’re talking about la virgen de Guadalupe

The indigenous had a day to commemorate the deads, the Spanish adapted it as the catholics adopted a lot of pagan festivities as Christmas

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Why ? Much like Halloween it barely Hilda any religious meannings anymore , pagan or otherwise, its about reminissing the dead and eating sugar skulls

What was the original Day of the Dead like?

Why do people always talk about sugar skulls? Where I'm from the default is chocolate, isn't like that in the rest of Mexico?

the small native children put on costumes and went around to other local villages asking for cocoa beans

I kinda have a problem with halloween bc my christian family said it was satanic, but now I just see it at pointles, cosplay, scary movies, and candy, you can do that any time of the year, its just for the economy boost.

Based if true

>you can do that any time of the year
Um, why would you do any of that in like spring or summer?

of course, maritimes has some big gaelic larpers

pentecostal?

Good point, seems so random to me, not my culture

Something like that

The INAH says that in the Aztec calendar the day of dead would match with the end of the corn harvest since is the end of the rain seasons, and this was one of the 2 ritual celebration of the ritual calendar, the other celebrated fertility, this celebrated the dead, something like that

Im from Guadalajara, it Is barely celebrated around here, we know Is a thing , but no one sets an altar at their house or ask for calaverita as southerners do, but as far as i know the sugar skull Is the traditional one

Nigga, every single culture in history has had a day to remeber and celebrating the dead, its never been a special aspect of native cultures, that shit is just a meme, do you believe Is a coincidence the date just so happens to be at the same time as the Christian all souls day? Or that there Is heavy christian imagery like the customary 3 crosses at the base of the altar?, Tell me how pan de muertos Is remotely native when Is a wheat based bread something not used until the europeans arrived

Día de muertos Is not native, not by a long shot, its a "spanish larping as injun for them to easily accept the cross" type of thing

I thought Aztecs had multiple festivals every month for different gods
Are you implying Guadalajara is Northern? Lol

Halloween was in its original form brought by Irish immigrants and previously attached to all saints day because of it's precursor's (samhain) association with departed souls.

>it Is barely celebrated around here, we know Is a thing , but no one sets an altar at their house or ask for calaverita as southerners do
Boring and Catholicpilled

Canada and the US as a whole do halloween we both have large amounts of people with Irish ancestry, like dressing up and like candy (keep in mind the Brits created the candy bar).

schools and offices set altars

No, but its not southern, we western

Better than being bamboozled into believing its some grand MUH NATIVE tradition when its not

Sugar skulls are all we in the U.S. are told. Until you mentioned it, I didnt know any Mexicans got chocolate for day of the dead.

You realize regular Christianity in Europe is also full of pagan shit up the ass, it's just European pagan shit rather then latam pagan shit.

It's not random. These celebrations coincide with the harvest season, as well as the transition from bountiful spring to barren winter. The death imagery is a hold over from the olden days when people actually felt like they still had a connection to their dead, and that the barrier between life and the afterlife became permeable at least for a short time.

I'm from the "Western" region, too and we celebrate it here.

We do Halloween, too nowadays

Guadalajara Grill was a nice Mexican restaurant in the town next to my hometown. I live in an area with a lot of Mexicans now and have been to Mexico and for a Mexican place in New England I think they did a decent job.

Yeah my Filipino coworkers and friends said its spread there as well. It seams like it's showing up in all countries that have workers here who return home eventually.

Are you from Guadalajara, too? Can you confirm what the other user said that run of the mill don't celebrate Day of the Dead?
Where I'm from when the Day of the Dead is approaching the town square is full of stands selling stuff related to it and Halloween and chocolate skulls are the most popular by far. I don't really like sugar skulls desu.

There's also some other candies, like candy coffins, bat shaped chocolate lollipos, candy, candy corn and some pumpkin shape ones that I don't remember what they're made of.

Nobody says that about the pan de muerto, yo solo escribo la postura oficial del Instituto nacional de antropologia e historia

I like Halloween :3
It's always nice when pumpkins start arriving

Michoacán?

Dont get me wrong, it has grown to the point that Is celebrated sol over the country and im not saying people here have anything against it, but its different how hard its celebrated in different regions, i have family in Veracruz and yes they do make a big fuss about it, make a big gathering for día de muertos and set altares at home, in primary school we did an altar More as an assigment than anything else but thats it.

Its like día de reyes, yes we know Is a thing and we eat rosca de reyes, but the main holiday in wich kids get their toys Is christmas unlike in some other places

Sometimes its a good thing to take a step back and question our culture

They put altars with skulls? Its worst than I thought

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BASED sloots

I want to eat the día de muertos bread with milk n shit but I'm on a diet

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>do you believe Is a coincidence the date just so happens to be at the same time as the Christian all souls day
Spaniards moved the date from the summer time to coincide with the European All Souls Day. Also the vast majority of cultures across the world have similar traditions. Don't be so pedantic.

Yes
It was my understanding that it wasn't really celebrated only in the North but in the area that constituted Mesoamerica it was

Its supposed to be an altar with 3 levels with shit the deceased like, it has to have 3 crosses in the ground one Made of Salt, other of ashes and a cemoazuchitl flowers one, sugar skulls are not an obligatory part of the altar but some people add it for decoration and shit

As i understands it Michoacán Is where día de muertos starts big time

im a closet CHIlango living in guadalajara
its not as big of a deal as in the centre, but some people go to graveyards to honour their dead and all years in school we set up an altar. at my office too
sugar skulls instead of chocolate ones btw

haha fatso

>CHIlango living in guadalajara

You have to go back

Halloween is an ancient Celtic celebration. It's not Christian, though Christian have tried to take it over and ruin it like they do to everything they can get their greedy hands on.

Death to Christians

yeah girl tell em

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>majority of cultures across the world have similar traditions.

Yeah thats my point, lots of mexicans fall for the meme that celebrating your deads is some mesoamerican shit when its done by everyone, we just happen to have a Disney movie about it

Based
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What do you mean, what's the point? It's culture.
Catholicism always adopted local pagan traditions. Like Christmas.

But it is?
No culture is unique. All of them have similar traditions.

>All of them have similar traditions.
but then who started it first?

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No one, death being a natural part of life Is normal all cultures developed some myth or tradition about it, much like fertility and the sun

>but then who started it first
the first person to need a cope when someone they liked died

What are they cellebrating exactly?

Sol Invictus was hardly a local pagan tradition. He was like a national Roman god.