How come the Philippines (specially Manila) and Taiwan (as in Taiwanese Aborigines) never developed a sinified society like Korea, Japan and Vietnam despite being relatively close to China?
How come the Philippines (specially Manila) and Taiwan (as in Taiwanese Aborigines) never developed a sinified society...
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Vietnam and Korea were both part of China, and Japan as we know it first came to be from migrants from China/Korea. Japan would've never been a sinic society if it stayed Ainu.
Are you talking about the Yayoi people?
austronesian retard dna
could you please don't bundle us together with sinic subhumans? japan is the only country on the planet that forms a unique civ on its own.
>Japan as we know it first came to be from migrants from China/Korea
That's nothing but a fucking theory, retard. It's absolutely not a science. Well, at best it's bro science. The fact remains that the ancestors of the Japanese were for the large part Han Chinese immigrants. The culture doesn't lie. If it weren't for the emergence of Japanese nationalism after getting your anus probed by Commodore Perry in the 19th century, you Japanese wouldn't claim to be so "different" and "unique" from the Chinese.
because chinese and pseudochinks(Japanese) are subhumans
being a jap and chink here is automatically dead before colonization era
Isn't that golden temple in Japan?
>The fact remains that the ancestors of the Japanese were for the large part Han Chinese immigrants.
I don't agree with the Japanese poster but I doubt this is true. Otherwise they would speak some sort of Chinese.
Didn't Maynila used to trade with China?
>Guqin
Doesn't deny that it's Chinese in origin.
>Traditional architecture
Doesn't deny that it's Chinese in origin.
>Guzheng
LMAO @ that Jomon piece of wood being a musical instrument
>Pipa
Doesn't deny that it's Chinese in origin.
>Traditional painting
Doesn't deny that it's Chinese in origin.
>old silk clothing
Doesn't deny that it's Chinese in origin.
>plum blossom
Doesn't deny that it's Chinese in origin.
>penjing
Doesn't deny that it's Chinese in origin.
>gardens
Doesn't deny that it's Chinese in origin.
>parasols
Doesn't deny that it's Chinese in origin.
>weiqi
Doesn't deny that it's Chinese in origin.
>carp
Doesn't deny that it's Chinese in origin.
>the rest
Doesn't deny that it's Chinese in origin.
>YOU
BTFO
They should have genocided all you malayniggers
Do you realize that languages evolve? Ancient Chinese sounds nothing like modern Chinese languages.
>Isn't that golden temple in Japan?
You're thinking of something else, amigo.
Both ancient and modern Japanese sounds nothing like either Chinese or Korean of any dialect or time period.
But Japanese isn't related to Chinese at all
I remember reading about a golden Buddhist temple in Japan once
Just because it doesn't "sound" the same doesn't mean there was no influence. Japanese vocab is like 60% Chinese in origin. Not to mention that Kanji literally means Han Chinese writing.
lol why are chinks and gooks so desperate to establish a link with the yamato master race?
>If it weren't for the emergence of Japanese nationalism after getting your anus probed by Commodore Perry in the 19th century, you Japanese wouldn't claim to be so "different" and "unique" from the Chinese.
the yamato have had a clear sense since antiquity that they are unique and different from sinic, exemplified by this from the 14th century.
>"Great Japan is the divine land. The heavenly progenitor founded it, and the sun goddess bequeathed it to her descendants to rule eternally. Only in our country is this true; there are no similar examples in other countries. This is why our country is called the divine land."[4]
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see, they were no different from imperial japanese. those weak continental subhumans subject to barbarian conquests were pretty much looked down in that era too, and the yamato have never associated themselves with them.
chinese belongs to sino-tibetan family, and japanese is a language isolated.
>shifting goal posts this hard
And the latin alphabet came from phonecian, what of it?
All of those can be traced back from the Heian Period not because most Japs were rape bastards of chinese/koreans and natives
Wonder where he end up
Evidence that this is any more historically valid and factually accurate than gilgamesh or king arthur?
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jap was colony of korea
ok chinky stinky
Rice cultivation technology was transferred from Korea and southern China to Japan. lol
You can not deny it.
ASK TO YAYOI
but japanese basically worshiped chinese culture maybe until the last century...
But in written Japanese, it contains Chinese characters right?
And part of the Japanese vocabulary sounds like Minnan, a dialect of south-eastern china
lol your being japan's vassal has never changed since antiquity.
don't you do know being obligated to transfer royals and women to suzerain is a typical indicator of vassal status? it's the same shit as comfort women, and korea has done exactly the same shit to china, manchu and mongols as well throughout history so they didn't exterminate you lmao
The Wa are archeologically related to Baekje.
Why is this Jap lesbian/tranny such a psychopath?
Son of a bitch, have you forgotten who made your country? You’re a incredibly ingrate. Go out and die, You scumbag
Have you forgotten who made yours kimchi?
yayoi people belong to a different subclade than your ancestor gook
japanese O-47z is older than gook O-L682, so we don't really share the same yayoi ancestry.
baekje was japan's vassal so why not?
>source: my ass
did japan have to transfer crown princes to baekje and silla to show loyalty? no, never, because it was not a vassal
did china have to transfer crown princes to baekje and silla to show loyalty? no, never, because it was not a vassal
did baekje and silla have to transfer crown princes to japan or china to show loyalty? yes, because they were vassals
maybe baekje did that in china to bend over backward for another master yamato, lol
>Philippines are western but Mexico/Sudacas aren't
calm down fucking slave kun
of course Koreans
And Japanese were born with the seeds of Korean conquerors: D
>i want to interpret like what i want to believe!!
>gook resorting to fantasy, denying every extant history record
as always
Japan is sinic and considered to be in the sinosphere by most. Huntington is a retarded weeb hack and his book was garbage.
honestly this post wouldn't be that bad if it didn't include huntington's meme map
japan not being sinic is pretty evident from the fact japan has its own emperor. it's literally impossible for a sinic country that isn't china to have its own emperor.
sometimes japanese posters claim that japan is the only real sinic country left, since the original chinese/korean have been wiped out
other times they claim they are not sinic
which is it?!?
Sinosphere is simply in regards to culture. Besides, Vietnam and Korea have had periods of time where they had their own emperors too.
>sometimes japanese posters claim that japan is the only real sinic country left, since the original chinese/korean have been wiped out
it's "japanese"
that's actually arguable. japan now is probably closer to chinese tang culture than china now is
Japan's emperor was nothing but a political hostage for 800 years. He had no political power, no military power, no nothing. All he was good for was legitimizing whichever daimyo/shogun kept him hostage. Absolutely no other Asian country acknowledged the "emperor" of Japan until the late 19th century.
>The Japanese ignore the facts of world scholars because only their delusions are facts
as always
I really wonder how barbarians who don't know how to wear shoes have civilized themselves.
and he dominated both lmao
that wa guy looks like a nigger tho...and he does not look like japanese nowadays
but you don't send an envoy if you dont care about sino-diplomatic protocols...
Why is the Jap so short? Is that why they were called "Wa" (dwarfs)?
I swear. Whoever made that is NOT a native Japanese. I'm guessing the resident Jap history troll is a larper trying to make Japanese people look insane.
Yes, The ancient Chinese called the barbarians that way.
>implying there are any actual asians in this thread
no not really. gook "emperor" for example barely became so after japan defeating china and made korea independent. before that the monarch of korea, vassal of china, was always a king authorized by emperor of china. this is also why the gooks are obsessed with calling the emperor of japan a king out of inferiority complex as shows. they're ingrained with the concept that the emperor of china is the only true, legitimate ruler of earth, that's the sinosphere mentality.
China did try to sinified taiwan but they couldn't until dutch? came and stalled the whole shit.
>let me tell you your country's history
that's not the point here. emperor's influence over politics is our domestic matter. from international standpoint japan was always under yamato dynasty, and shogun and daimyo were officially retainers. shogun means the supreme commander of the imperial army in the first place.
I mean why didn't the native Taiwanese Aborigines developed into a Sinic society like the rest of East Asia. They're literally in front of China.
>literally no hygiene and education before 1910
lol
delusional weeb
China didn't have the technological power to conquer the whole taiwan. Remember china's sino influence spread through land. Since taiwan is an island, the chinese didn't develop such naval capacity to do so. The abo also had high immunity to diseases to counteract invasion.
I mean China had maritime vessels, they used to trade with SEA so I don't see how they couldn't arrive to Taiwan if they wanted to.
On the other hand, did the Taiwanese Aborigines not have any kind of vessels?
Vietnam is literally China in denial though
If they didn't abandon their writing after 1945, nobody would even considers Vietnam not a part of China
die you fucking cringe kangaroonigger ancient koreans and japs could communicate without interpreter even jap linguists usually hypothesize that japanese language is a language that is divided in ancient korean language japan's royals still use korean words though
lol delusional gook. japanese has nothing to do with your filthy gook speak. it's evident from basic vocabulary like pic related.
the pseudo similarities stem from:
1) both has many chinese loanwords
2) modern gook speak has thousands of japanese words due to colonial period
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3) southern part of korea has some japonic toponyms because it was inhabited by japonic speakers aka Wajin (wa people). korea's three kingdoms were all multi ethnic states where ancient chinks distinguished wa people from gook ancestors (韓: han, after which your country 大韓民国 was named) as they spoke different languages and had different cultures. they were part of what is called yayoi people.
>Wajin (倭人) is
>in the narrow sense, the old name of the ethnic group or inhabitants who lived in the Japanese archipelago named by the people of China
>In the wider sense, an ethnic group that was mainly active at sea between Mainland China, the Korean Peninsula and the Japanese archipelago.
>In general, some of the latter became established on the Japanese archipelago and became the Yayoi people.[1] The word "Wajin" is used as the former.
>A description in "Classic of Regions Beyond the Seas: North (海内北経)" mentions "Classic of Mountains and Seas(山海経)", established from China's Warring States period to the Han period, that Wa people belonged to Yan. This is thought to have occurred from the 6th century BC to the 4th century BC.
>The first secure appearance of Wajin is in "Treatise on Geography" (地理誌) of the Book of Han (漢書). After that, in "Wei Zhai Wan Tin Den" (魏志倭人伝) (written in 280AD-297AD), their lifestyle, habits and the way of society are described and by cultural commonality such as lifestyle, customs and languages, they are distinguished themselves from "Kanjin (韓人)" and "Dongye (濊人)" people.
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Baekje was not their vassal
modern genetics also backs up this. wa people belonged to O1b2, and their subclade O-47z is older than gook O-L682 as shows, meaning the peninsula was inhabited by O-47z people first. they were the japonic speaker who had inhabited in the peninsula before O-L682 became the majority.
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>The Wajin are thought to have belonged to haplogroup O1b2 (Y-DNA). Mitsuru sakitani says that Haplogroup O1b1 (Y-DNA) and haplogroup O1b2 (Y-DNA) are the carriers of Yangtze civilization. As the Yangtze civilization declined, O1b1 and some O1b2 migrated to the south and were called Baiyue, while the remaining O1b2 crossed westward and northerly, to the Shandong peninsula, the Korean Peninsula and the Japanese archipelago.[5]