Nuclear Club Thread

We got two nukes
Can I join your team?

If you do we will throw nukes on you.

unfortunately no,only china and best korea can

not yours

>tfw made nukes only by fear of being irrelevant

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India did get sanctioned, but the prime minister managed to convince everyone that we are good goys. Haven't even signed the NPT till date lol

I am worried you have forgotten one more colony, sir.

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>this level of cope for being totally irrelevant

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literally who

Based junkie poster.

Silly me, why am I posting here? Canada surely does not have any nuclear weapons anywhere. It is not as if we have any uranium or nuclear technology or places to store them. Haha, I should post in a different thread instead. Goodbye!

Has nukes.
WEED NUKES

I don't understand. I've been seeing ~120 for over 4 years now. Why haven't India made more? Or is it that the number has not been disclosed?
Aren't we like the only member that hasn't signed the NPT either?

>tfw we had a nuclear program together with France during the cold war even so the Anglo prohibited it
>tfw France offered us 2 times to buy nukes from them (and might soon try a third time because they are to poor to pay for their nukes)
>tfw Germany cucked itself again and declined

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You have pretty shit delivery system’s tbf. We are better at delivering nukes and we aren’t even a nuclear power. We just have american nukes in Belgium.

Hitler was your last based and redpilled leader. Sorry GermAnon

Why would you?
120 are more than enough so nobody fucks with you and nukes cost money.

Hi guys

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There was nothing to sanction back then. The Indian economy was a tiny fraction in 1998 compared to what it is today.

>will throw nukes on you

Indeed, Muhammad. I hope you've got a slingshot large enough for that.

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We don't more much smarter to spend money on drones, better equipment or even AI than nukes.

Russia is a British-crypto colony.

in honesty though our nukes are a self destruct button in case we go to war with india
nothing against russia

The weak fears the strong.

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Israel have nuclear weapon? It's some mistake.

are you north korean?

They officially "neither confirm nor deny" they have nukes

Korea is the one

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>t. Oleksiy Rabinovich

A meme guy who pretends to be a historian and philosopher. He's known for his insane conspirologist books, in one of them he claims that Russia is a crypto-colony of Great Britain since 1917.

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Yeah, that makes sense.

You're not wrong. But seeing USA and Russia with over 7k is hilarious. Plus, with all the anti-nuke (whatever they are called, like THAAD) capabilities, how can we be sure that a nation with 100+ nukes has the ability to cause massive damage?

i wish

>tfw we got nukes but we need daddy's approval to use them

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>tfw keeping nukes for fren but not allowed to use them

>we got nukes
>we

Those are american nukes deployed on your territory, not yours.

>how can we be sure that a nation with 100+ nukes has the ability to cause massive damage?
Define massive.
Pretty sure nobody would dare to try their luck against 120 nukes when just one making it through will pretty much destroy a city like New York or Moscow.

>>tfw we got nukes but we need daddy's approval to use them
It's like saying we had nukes during the cold war.
No nigga you don't.

They can launch them themselves if we give them the go ahead. I think Italy has the same deal.

Isn't that basically the same in most NATO/EU cunts?
We also got nukes from them that we can use if they allow us to, but nukes that you can't use when you want it are pretty useless.

Nukes are for losers.
The thinking man's strategy is not to involve yourself in any world wars.

Who's denying that? But they would be delivered by Dutch pilots and Dutch F-16s/F-35s

Not the same

>But seeing USA and Russia with over 7k is hilarious.
It was a pissing contest.

>anti-nuke
don't really work

>how can we be sure that a nation with 100+ nukes has the ability to cause massive damage?
You need 300 to deter huge countries from messing with you, but if you're loaded for Pakistan, 100 is enough while costing less and attracting less attention.

>But they would be delivered by Dutch pilots and Dutch F-16s/F-35s

Sure, by the orders of American officers.

>britdurka starts mutt posting when called out
clockwork

why are you here? can you not read?

hey, neither confirming nor denying that i am in this thread

Yes, nuclear sharing is the same and exists for the same reasons. NATO vs Warsaw Pact.
Today, it's an American ploy to distract you for having your own nukes. They did that to us in the 50s too, we learnt our lesson.

We are the future nuclear powers

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Since NATO is always led by an American, it's the same for Britain and France

>France

No, we started our own nuclear program in the 50s since it appeared we couldn't rely on the Americans.
Our nuclear weapons, missiles, subs and planes are 100% French developed and built. The land missiles (we had ICBM silos and short range mobile launchers, like Pluton in pic) also were.

You can't trust other countries for your safety. Certainly not the US.

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>Not the same
How.
Polish People's Republic "nukes" were to be delivered by polish pilots too.
Hell, if you go by the official documents, two hot steamy loads on copenhagen alone.
If I recall correctly Nethrlands was supposed to be given a chance to surrender.

Seven days to the river rhine.
Two weeks to the shores of britain.

You have to be a complete fool to think that the US DoD gave you any authority over their nuclear arsenal.

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I mean France would only use nukes in conjunction with NATO, which is always led by an American

>You can't trust other countries for your safety. Certainly not the US.
Doubt anyone would prefer to count on you instead of the Americans desu

You make it sound like we're a shitty ally. We could have just left Western Europe to dry after WW2, y'know.

I didn't know that about the Polish pilots. Polish fighters too? In that case Poland was a nuclear power by my account

>You have to be a complete fool to think that the US DoD gave you any authority over their nuclear arsenal.
I literally said we need "daddy's approval". The rest of the kill chain is in Dutch hands though.

>You have to be a complete fool to think that the US DoD gave you any authority over their nuclear arsenal.

This.
We requested authorization to use our US nuclear bombs in Indochina if need arose. Denied.
Then we requested an US nuclear strike if need arose. Denied.
During the 1956 Suez crisis, the US actually nuclear blackmailed France and Britain into cancelling the invasion. We had no choice but to comply, not having nukes of our own.
Then we started our own program, and nothing like this ever happened again.
It's costly (each sub costs over 9 billion €, including the missiles) but largely indispensable if you want to remain an independant country.
There are overtures from Germany (most significantly, their defense minister recently) to share this nuclear umbrella, so evidently they feel the need for it, too. I guess Trump "reminded them of the situation".

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>During the 1956 Suez crisis, the US actually nuclear blackmailed France and Britain into cancelling the invasion.
NEVER forget suez
yank scum are not our allies

>implying France or Germany wouldn't do the same thing if they had the power and incentive to do so.

>waaaah mommy why won’t the big mean Americans let me bully shitskins anymore

>I mean France would only use nukes in conjunction with NATO
No. We were out of NATO for several decades, as a matter of fact. And while our arsenal was designed to deter the USSR (during the Cold war days), it can be used against anyone, including the US, if they threaten the vital interests of France.

>Doubt anyone would prefer to count on you instead of the Americans desu
Not every country agrees with you ;) but besides the point, I said nobody can count on someone else. Including France. A country needs enough nukes to make any attempt at invasion a losing proposition.

not an argument
you've treated the middle east worst since then we ever did

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>There are overtures from Germany (most significantly, their defense minister recently) to share this nuclear umbrella, so evidently they feel the need for it, too. I guess Trump "reminded them of the situation".

What?
Actually we had a nuclear program toegther decades ago and today France hopes that we jump in because that stuff is getting to expensive for you alone. Let alone you offered us 2 times before to buy your nukes. Last was Sarkozy in 2007.

>NEVER forget suez
It's still very much remembered here.
You guys should continue to build your own nukes and submarines too, if you know what's good for you.

whatabout: the post

>whataboutism

Please whatever you chinki and pajeets do don't fucking nuke my shithole country desu

>muh paper NATO agreements
you'd have to be pretty naive not to realize that if shit really hits the fan the US would take initiative and command rather than allow generic small euro nation #27 to launch actual nukes

Spoiler: Nobody is your ally, every country is in it for themselves. Befriending all of Europe just tends to be the most beneficial thing for both parties right now, because the majority of Europe is extemely influenced by outside powers (US and Russia). What do you think will happen when the US declines and Russia is deemed no longer a threat? Do you think that Europeans will still play nice with each other?

>frogs and brits still upset the USA stopped European Chimpout #12547
Truly a subhuman continent

In case jesus comes back with reinforcements

australia and NZ are our allies no matter what sweetie

Read that in Die Welt a few months ago:

welt.de/politik/deutschland/plus180136274/Eine-Nuklearmacht-Deutschland-staerkt-die-Sicherheit-des-Westens.html

And Merchet (who is always VERY well informed about defense matters) heard that when preparing the next Traité de l'Elysée (in january) the German delegates stated that "nuclear deterence is a part of defense"

lopinion.fr/blog/secret-defense/france-allemagne-dissuasion-nucleaire-dans-prochain-traite-l-elysee-164920

Of course, there are people who see it as a taboo, in France ("nazi bomb? NEVER) and even more in Germany (pacifists like SPD)

Macron will probably make a speech about the European defense, after this treaty is signed.

>Do you think that Europeans will still play nice with each other?
We've learnt to, the hard way. If Europe becomes aggressive (again), it will be against the outside world (did that before). But since the population is generally decreasing not increasing (except through immigration), there won't be demographic pressure to expend.

Borders are an illusion, man.

How do you guys think WW3 will start (if it ever happens)? Will nukes be used? First country to get nuked?

india vs pakistan will be the start of it all

>Implying finlan doesn't have nukes

lmfao the goyim don't know, educate yourself on the Olkiluoto 3, the missing uranium and project Väinämöinen 1&2

Well yeah, that's because Australia will never be able to project power in Europe
desu the EU is fragile, and most countries are one election away from leaving it. What were to happen if Nationalism rose in Europe again?

>the EU is fragile
the EU and euro have been given "dead by the end of the week" more times than I can remember, in the UK and US. Wishful thinking, it's stronger than ever.

>most countries are one election away from leaving it
Yeah, sure. I mean, everyone is just dying to experience a Brexit of their own. Here in France, even the FN took it off their program.

>What were to happen if Nationalism rose in Europe again?
In these times of nuclear weapons? nothing but empty speeches and military parades.
Which would be good for the European defense industry actually.

shouldn't have voted for the commies then bahadur

That just means you got cucked out of your nukes by the US

>by the US

No, by our PM. We could have had them, hell eventually the US straight up offered nukes during the cold war but the PM turned them down.

>be a great power/superpower
>get nukes
>other countries want to defend themselves, too
>oy vey, none for you. Is of great dangerousity hurrdurrurrurururur
>enforce international treaties banning nukes from those that don't already have them

ABC weaponry - especially nuclear weapons - is a good deterrent against war. Why can't we have any?

Since Trump killed NATO, the Europeans nations probably have no choice but to build an European integrated defense (an EUROTO).
This will have a nuclear deterence component, if only because France is adamant about it.
So Finland will have it in exchange for paying part of the cost. Possibly paid in rifle deliveries or something.

>lets buy a bomb that can never be used until you want to release Ragnarök
>it will cost millions in maintaining and the waste is so toxic that it will glow when your grand-grand-grand-children are dead
>WHY WASNT IT DONE
brainlet

>There are overtures from Germany (most significantly, their defense minister recently) to share this nuclear umbrella
Fake News m8

The current idea is to place Germany under the existing European nuclear umbrella, in exchange for part of the costs. Without building any extra weapons.
By "existing European" read "French". Though even post-Brexit, the Anglo-French military cooperation hops along nicely. Including in the nuclear deterence department.

Reportedly, this is being discussed with the new treaty in January in mind.

Read that in Die Welt, I think. Trump's declarations about not feeling obligated by article 5 of NATO did stir things in Germany.
Of course, the matter of getting it accepted by the German population (part of the French population, too) remains.

Not really suposed to share this

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