How come the Italian mafia only really formed in the US and not the other Italian diaspora countries like Brazil or...

Because at the time of the massive Italian emigrations to the new world, Mafia was just a Southern Italy thing, and Southern America mostly got immigrants from the North while you burgers mostly got immigrants from the South

No culture

There was and Is, its just that its not as famous, if you think about it mafia isnt that big when compared to cartels and shit, they are small Time gangs operating localy doing extortion, some gambilng, poestitution, drugs erc, you hear about the American ones because of movies and shit

So we got the more authentic Italians then

youtube.com/watch?v=7R7DxfnmSH8

Greaseball guidos aren't "authentic italians" Vinny.

buceta means pussy in portuguese

You think they are more authentic because that's the only ones you have been exposed to

Because Southern Italians went to the US and Northern Italians went to Brazil and Argentina

italian mafia is also here. germany is a paradise for them as money laundering. but best part of that is they are one of the only criminals here who properly pay taxes.

I honestly doubt Italian culture in Brazil or Argentina is more noticeable than here, but hey, you're the Italian.

Protip: Olive Garden is not "Italian culture"

I know Italians took over Argentina's government, but Brazil I thought was ran by old school Portuguese descendants similar to WASPs here?

>His country doesn't even use "ciao"
>Muttistan having more Italian culture than here

>Brazil I thought was ran by old school Portuguese descendants similar to WASPs here
That lasted until the military dictatorship. Then came a few cucks, then commies, and now Basednaro.

Would Bolsonaro be the first Italian president of Brazil?

No

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Is Italian the 3rd most major cultural influence in Brazil after Portuguese and African?

>How come the Italian mafia only really formed in the US and not the other Italian diaspora countries like Brazil or Argentina?
The government, unions,etc etc.

LATAM is so corrupted that mafia has full control of the so you never hearb about it

But the most corrupt countries are Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador...which have no Italians or Italian influence.

What are the cultural influences Italy have? Anything culinary? Arts? Music? Effects on Portuguese?

We are better than Italians, their mafias wouldn't last here

Yeah, the cartels who don't give a shit about the average person are better than the more robin hood like mafia.

It's a complex theme, read about Italians in Brazil to know about their influences here.

A lot in culinary.

In my region polenta is very popular, risotto as well, along with gnocchi, lasagna and others.

Not so much in the music though.

The effects in Portuguese you can only see ithe regions where italians descendants live, a slight different accents and a few words/swearing "ma porco dio /ma non è possibile" and mostly only on older people.

That depends how influential the indigenous influence can be considered nowadays.

But yes I think it's the probably the third, but there's a huge gap between the first two and the Italian, and Italian influence is pretty much non existant in some regions like the northeast.

Looks like someone failed American history. The mafia only gained power in America following Prohibition which allowed them to monopolize the underground market.

There's this Brazillian pizza place near me. Is Brazillian pizza worth a try?

Idiots that could assimilate after two or three generations and larp as italians ≠ italian culture

See if the restaurant owners come from the regions of Brazil that Italians settled. It's likely directly correlated with the quality of their pizza.

Wasn't Mussolini the one who basically exterminated them from southern Italy and they were basically forced to move abroad if they wanted to survive? And iirc the sicilian mafia reappeared in Italy after WW2 due to some moving back from the US and because during the Allied military invasion many mafiosi inmates escaped from italian prisons.

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Here's the menu

beyondmenu.com/22096/culver-city/bella-vista-brazilian-gourmet-pizza-culver-city-90232.aspx?utm_source=satellite&utm_medium=top_banner

It looks decent. Ironically my Argie coworker said its pretty good so I'll take her word for it.

yes and yes

American Italian: Al Pacino, Scorsese, Lady Gaga, Madonna and the list goes on

Brazilian italian: Bolsonaro, Senna and ....

Argentinian Italians: some soccer players and ...

It seems they are indeed more noticeable in US than South America

Aren't a lot of Brazillian models Italian ancestry?

I though a lot were from German ancestries.
You can't compare them with list I've given for USA anyway

Sort of but American mobsters were still able to make it in and out of fascist Italy.

Some of us aren't Jersey Shore rejects, please no bully

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Jersey shore are gipsies

So much for Italian influence in Argentina.

>In my region polenta is very popular
Based

>Wasn't Mussolini the one who basically exterminated them from southern Italy and they were basically forced to move abroad if they wanted to survive?
I wish

Actually there's a reason you've got Mexicans heading organizations like the bank for international settlements and the OECD while Argentina and Brazil have turbo-corruption scandals of politicians stealing BILLIONS

We may have corrupt governments but the parts of our government that do work (eg tax collection, central bank, trade agency) win awards competing vs Euros, Mexican politicians are on that next tier of corruption where they realize you can't steal as much from impoverished peasants so some parts of the government need to actually work

If we keep on this path we may one day reach US government levels and actually make bribes, I mean lobbying and campaign contributions, legal

Most people here came first from the town Nova Trento, and as the name says, was founded by mostly Trentinians, and also plenty from Veneto.

Bolsonaro, Senna, Barrichello, Felipe Massa, Bruno Gagliasso, Alborghetti, Alesssandra Ambrosio, Mazzaropi and the list goes on

Just because you don't know many famous Brazilians doesn't mean a thing

That's because we know more famous people from the US than Brasil in general

What the actual fucking fuck
Barrichello, senna and massa are originally from Italy
Fugging based

true

i admit italian team was acclaimed during the wc 2014

Really don't know why our main Formula One drivers had Italian origin

just like most of our most corrupt politicians have Lebanese origin

We are fast drivers
Formula Uno was invemted because of Ferrari I think
So it's natural

Reminder that fraud is in Italian blood

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youtu.be/QFp5X1KzPGU

Meh Argie Spanish doesn't sound too different than a reggaeton artist or a gardener.

>southern Italians
Not a surprise desu, they do the same here

Btw are surnames starting with "Dal" kind similar to the german "Von" or something like that?

What's the percentages for Latinos and blacks?

This is more accurate
youtu.be/NQCteN9fXxY

Dal means from
They are really Venetian-esque

That's because you posted a drunkard there

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Ciao (Chao) is the main word we use here to say good bye and we are only 4% Italian. I think that word was probably adopted in Portugal and Spain first before they came to our lands

De que parte es este jambo?
De donde es el acento?