On this day, 603 years ago, the Battle of Agincourt happened. Have the French ever truly recovered?
On this day, 603 years ago, the Battle of Agincourt happened. Have the French ever truly recovered?
But they did. They eventually won the Hundred Years War and the English lost their French possessions and King Edward had to renounce his claim to the French throne.
no country ever really recovers from a civil war
They won that war, op
Fake news
>Have the French ever truly recovered?
considering they won the war, id say yes
Was going to reply but those anons already did:
Lessons learnt from Hundred Years' War:
1) Knights < Archers < Artillery
2) Army of retainers and peasant levies < Permanent national army
I imagine myself in Aquitaine, leading my division. Our mission is to stop fr*Nch frogs from advancing. We mow down fr*Nch frogs but they keep coming. I shoot fr*Nch frogs but I run out of arrows so I draw my dirk and begin slaughtering fr*Nch, since fr*Nch are way more psychially inferior to me, I slay them by dozens. Then I get shot, but I didn’t fall, I kept fighting. Then shot again and again. fr*Nch arbelists were shooting me from a distance like the cowards they are. I lie down, facing up to sky and I see EDWARD of WOODSTOCK (The BLACK PRINCE) smiling at me, I smile back… Then I woke up, in Somerset, my homeland. My ÆNGLISC brethen gave me a warm welcome to heaven. I finally made it, I finally made it into heaven...
>My ÆNGLISC brethen
t. Norman FitzRobert
Azincourt was to France what Pearl Harbor was to America.
Initial disaster due to complacency and a dastardly opponent using a new weapon (longbow/torpedo planes), followed by winning the war to great profit using an even more intolerable weapon (field artillery/atomic bomb).
I, for one, celebrate it every year. A beautiful victory of French over French.
(Frenchman on vacation btw, don't mind the flag)
Completely irrelevant battle that did nothing to alter the inevitable outcome of the war. Why anyone even bothered to show up is beyond me.
>hurr durr warfare changed
If anyone was paying attention in the east they would've known projectiles and strategy were the way to go centuries earlier when the mongols swept across eurasia.
>they would've known projectiles and strategy were the way to go
The French nobles were very much aware of that. But giving the military power to bow-using peasants wasn't a workable idea for people who relied on their supremacy as armoured professional horse soldier to oppress said peasants.
Artillery did work though, because it was costly and its production could be monitored ; it even gave supremacy to the King over his vassals.
Agincourt more like Vagincourt :DDD
> Knights < Archers
There isn't a single record of a any knights getting killed by an arrow at Agincourt.
Meanwhile english archers got roflstomped at Patay.
We recovered so well we won the war.
based aussie bringing the truth
>Have the French ever truly recovered?
It was very devastating because most of the French nobles died there however they were rapidly replaced so it's wasn't a big deal anymore a century after
The French didn't win that war, the capetians did. Just want to make the distinction, this was a succession war.
i feel like this conflict has been blown out of proportion just because of its name
It sure was relevant at that stage of the war though
>most of the French nobles died
The incompetent class was weeded out, their successors were careful not to make the same mistakes and won the war. So good riddance.
Imagine being French. Raped at Crécy, Poitiers and Agincourt and only saved from being a satrap to a poor windswept island one-tenth your size by a triumphant king fortuitously dying of the shits. How embarrassing.
Imagine being British.
How embarrassing
The "French" were probably cheering at the news of their glorified tax collectors getting slaughtered hundred of km away.
fakin frogs
England was about a third the size of France, not 1/10
also (you)
>They eventually won the Hundred Years War
I don't know how, everytime I see a battle from this period, it's the Englishmen who win.
It's almost as if we lived in a anglo saxon world, and anglos weren't really known for their honesty....
HYW was like the world cup
"It's coming home"
Ah wait, no, we utterly lost.
>B-but Imagine being French...
>I don't know how, everytime I see a battle from this period, it's the Englishmen who win
Yeah, right? plus "France never won a battle" (source:Anglos)
are you being stupid on purpose
the last stage of the war saw almost only french victory
how do you think they won the war?
French won the war yet they still SEETHE
>imagine being french, raped and fought by other french for french territory under french king
>muuuuh we anglos and shiet
lmao
where do you see someone seething?
>anglos are larping a war involving french vs french
>muuuh they are seething
???
'ate anglos
'ate welsh
'ate portuguese
'ate the """H""" """R""" """E""""
'ate flanders
'love me wine
'love me king
'love me joan
simple as
The result doesn't matter today anyway since we got rid of our kings. If house Plantagenêt had won the HYW and supplanted house Valois, it just means their heir would have been deposed a few centuries later.
>fought by other french
This is wrong
it was mostly the english
i didn't find any proof of french knights on plantagenet side fighting in these conflicts
>everything will be the same in the next 400 years
And the aussie won the medal (of history).
succession wars are not civil wars
An american started the thread.
>A different branch of the ruling dynasty would have stopped the weather-induced famines and prevented the printing press from being invented abroad
England had a revolution, too, complete with beheadings (including the king), and earlier than France.
burgundy was french not anglo
U WANT SUM U FROG BASTIDS
CUM AND HAV A GO IF U THINK U HARD NOUGH
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No
I'm sure the Welsh bowman gutting the frog knights stuck in the mud were fluent French speakers
They've been spreading lies like that to try and cope with the war for ages.