cant be thinking those illegal thoughts now can we
Angel Evans
well it's true
Caleb Hernandez
>respect those people who want to genocide half the continent and destroy democracy forever
neonazis cannot coexist with free speech
Gavin Hernandez
It's not even a reasonable comparison since dozens of countries over a century have at least officially proclaimed themselves socialist, while Nazism has only existed in a single country for 12 years.
Jordan Wood
We are only using one country for a comparison. You know which one it is
Carson Morris
are there people that dispute this? Its literal fact
gommunism "saved" Europe before destroying half the continent over 70 years so no one can complain about it
Austin Miller
Only some 5-6 million people died under Stalin's government, and that's counting the Ukrainian famine (which was not an intentional policy no matter what memes say).
Brayden Flores
>neonazis cannot coexist with free speech
Just like communists. My point is that if the EU bans nazi ideology, it should also ban communist one. These two ideologies were very similar to each other and they both allied with each other against Poland in 1939 and launched WW2.
Communists respect democracy and are not murderous in intent, i know that poles are butthurt forever about commies but they absolutely cannot be compared to nazism
James Robinson
European communist parties are all de-fanged and just standard issue social democrats now. Fascists still have teeth. That's why the EU is afraid of one but not the other.
Dylan Hall
so why is communism allowed? the fundamental endgame of communism is a complete dissolution of the state through violence if necessary.
Liam Smith
If it wasn't intentional it looks even worse for communists because it's proof of terrible management. Ukraine was a breadbasket.
God I wish Trotsky had gotten into power instead of Stalin so all the western fagglts would've gotten a taste of "gommunism xD" as well.
Cooper Butler
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Caleb Ortiz
>Communists respect democracy and are not murderous in intent
Both claims are false. There is literally no major difference between nazism and communism. Both are socialist ideologies, the first one is a national socialism and the second one international socialism. Both are totalitarian. Both believe that removal of some social group would solve all problems of humanity (capitalists, jews, poles and so on). Both are militaristic in nature.
In case of Poland, nazis killed more people than communists, but there were countries where communists killed more people than nazis did.
Blake Powell
1932 was a bad harvest. Bolsheviks prioritized the soldiers and urban laborers when it came to rations. Maybe not nice but sensible given the circumstances.
Thomas Lee
>Communists respect democracy and are not murderous in intent Good thing communists don't have a history of mass murdering dissidents or anything like that oh no. Hard labour camps are merely for re-educating the populace towards the one true ideology.
James Perez
>In a resolution passed with 355 votes to 90 and 39 abstentions, MEPs denounce that the lack of serious action against these groups has enabled the current xenophobic surge in Europe. The text mentions the attack that killed 77 people in Norway in 2011, the murder of UK MP Jo Cox in 2016 and the recent attack by fascist squads in Italy against MEP Eleonora Forenza.
They blame it on Breivik, a lone wolf. I don't think it's smart of them to ban all opposition, maybe some crazy nut goes breivk 2.0 eventually
Wyatt King
They both take a steaming shit on human rights and therefore have no right to exist
Brandon Baker
It's just a recommendation, anyways. It's not like the right-wing governments of Europe will actually do it (aren't out and out fascist and nazi parties banned in half the countries on the continent anyways?)
Christian Sanders
European Parliament should do more important things like making bidets mandatory in every country of the EU
Matthew Jenkins
>Measures are also necessary to counteract the spread of racism, fascism and xenophobia through the internet, in cooperation with social media companies.
>They propose setting up anti-hate crime units in police forces to ensure these crimes are investigated and prosecuted.
actual neonazis are scum but banning entire schools of thought from existing is dangerous and sounds outright dystopian
Ryder Cook
I thought france banned communism in the pre-ww2 era? Did they change it when they re-established the republic?
Oliver Bennett
The only problem is that they are merely banning them instead of rounding up the rightwing scum and forcing them against a wall. Communism hasn't killed anyone and before you sperg out like a braindead piece of shit: dictatorships ran by authoritarian tyrants is not communistic, nor even reflective of any form of socialism. They have all been rooted in ethnic mysticism which has given rise to neo-feudal empires revolving around racially defined social hierarchy. Under a communistic framework, this is literally is possible because the commerical power belongs to the worker, not a ruling class extracting their utility.
You Jow Forumstard bootlickers need to die. There is no other way for humanity to improve while scum like you are permitted to be apart of it.
Brandon Long
It sounds impossible to enforce on a large scale
Tyler Lee
they changed it when communist-loving students tried to take over france in the 60s
Ryder Hall
>not real communism like clockwork. keep on worshipping your death cult and make sure to get a nice taste of your states boot as it literally polices your thoughts
What about "class conflict", killing and robbing "capitalists" and "enemies of the working class" who were identified according to will of bolsheviks? Hundreds of thousands of Poles were killed by commies during deportations to Siberia, not to mention other crimes.
what would the communists do if I refused to abolish my property?
Levi Hill
Just take the servers offline that are already under control by multiple 3 letter agencies.
Think how easily KC died.
Grayson Garcia
>no true Scotsman! Yeah, it all sounds real neat on paper, too bat we've not yet reached post-scarcity, and as such it's impossible to actually reach communism. You know full well that when people say "commies" they have USSR and Maos China in mind.
Samuel Torres
>he wants everyone to be working class, while other nations arent. Only world communism would work, or else it would fail because the other nations are richer.
Sebastian Mitchell
How do you keep a new hierachy to form?
Alexander Johnson
>non-ethnic Russians muh ukrainians, muh bad russians lmao, no one regarded these people as ukri the real ukrainians only exist in northern most ukraine, parts of southern poland and eastern slovakia, they are transitional entinty, much like macedonians are to us and serbs
Jaxson Diaz
>>obviously only non-ethnic Russians were hit by it :^) That's just flat untrue. Something like 1-2 million Russians died in the famine.
Dominic Johnson
>"There is only one way in which the murderous death agonies of the old society and the bloody birth throes of the new society can be shortened, simpliefied and concentrated, and that way is revolutionary terror." they were just following their teachers words after all
Anthony Rodriguez
>communism can't be bad because by definition it it is perfect Another ebin aussie post
Zachary Sullivan
whats with the obsession with nazism by the political elite? if they want to top the spread of neo-facist movements across europe they might look into what is causing it, instead of banning it. these people clearly haven't learned from history what happens when you ban stuff
another horrible post from australia, great work it truly isn't Jow Forums without you
Henry Edwards
kys faggot Stalin was a great leader of the international proletariat. He killed off counterrevolutionaries, fascists, subversives, and other assorted degenerates, and good thing that he did.
Daniel Baker
And? Kazakhs were killed by the artificial famine too. Jews were also a transitional entity.
Anthony Smith
Jow Forums servers are hosted in america under a japanese owner. The EU would have no right to shut down Jow Forums
William Watson
Doesn't change the fact that it was artificial and was politically used to weaken the church.
Dominic Turner
>Stalin was a great leader of the international proletariat. He killed off counterrevolutionaries, fascists, subversives, and other assorted degenerates, and good thing that he did.
He was exactly like Hitler: he was killing Poles by nationality.
He ordered to kill all people in Russian administration with Polish surnames to "get rid of absolutely Poles":
That's another evidence that nazis and soviets were exactly the same shit
Hunter Robinson
They know what's causing it already, retard thinking 'muh brown people are going to take my job'-types
Nicholas Rivera
>it was artificial No it wasn't. >was politically used to weaken the church. The church had already been reduced to a political cipher by the early 1930s.
yeah we've heard these stories times and times again capitalism meanwhile keeps killing people to this day, but no one is blaming obama, trump or capitalism itself, instead you seek the problem in some institution or a natural event
protip: none of my family members even starved under socialism
>compares population of the year 1926 vs. 1951 >doesn't even mention territorial expansion Into the trash it goes.
Nathaniel Murphy
Honestly I want world communism. I think it will work well with today's technology. I just think in addition to it we need to genophage all brown people.
Noah Gutierrez
>The church had already been reduced to a political cipher by the early 1930s. Oh you're talking about the second famine, aaaaah, it was artificial too.
Thank you very much for your anecdotal evidence, I will happilly give my freedom away now. >black-or-white logical fallacy Y'know, other things than Socialism or Capitalism exist?
Jayden Lee
>Y'know, other things than Socialism or Capitalism exist? Unless you want to go back to feudalism or some hunter-gatherer system, not really
Jose Ward
hunter-gatherer is basic communism, is that what you want to go back to?
Carson Edwards
I wouldn't be so sure in my claims based on some wikipedia data, espcially from western sources.
Joseph Murphy
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAH At least I actually have sources
Jason Anderson
If you don't like what the eu is doing why don't you just leave it
Brody Johnson
How is the Brexit going
Jack Sullivan
Could be worse but it's being lead by people that want to stay in the EU so I don't expect much success. Nowt I can really do about that mate.
Xavier Green
Article doesn't even support the contention that the Holodomor was intentionally caused. >HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAH Explain to me what other modes of production exist
Noah Bennett
You know, acting stupid won't help you win anything.
Ethan Wright
Not wrong. Even if you think holocaust happened the nazis still didn't kill more people because jews aren't people.
Justin Garcia
but where are they? you cite nothing some useful idiot from the western academia got paid to do a meme research and claim how bad communism is. then we write it in wikipedia, since if its from harvard, it must be 100% real this is literally what you have been doing for over a century now and it is what the liberals are doing today with their pseudo-science articles. they have been rewriting the history of bulgaria, claiming that there was no ottoman yoke, we were peacefully living with our turkish masters, we were even better off than the russians, who came to free us and were astonished that the bulgars live in large and rich houses, lmao.
Josiah Murphy
If they ban Neonazism, they should ban Judaism too. They are identical ideologies.
Logan Gomez
Don't forget that Hitler killed also a lot of valuable Poles
Jayden Roberts
Hitler wanted to mix Germans and Poles to create a super über race
Xavier Gomez
>Parliament demands Useless crap, not gonna happen
well the holocaust was carried out by polish death squads
Brody Cox
I love it when people from 1st world (probably under age 20) talk about communism. They never have any idea.
There simply isnt worse fate than communism. Even usa or russia bombing your cities to shit is more preferable than communism. Heck even drop some small atom bomb on us. It will still cause less damage than few years of communism where the society rots from inside.
>the text mentions the murder of Jo Cox Ahh yes that remain false flag done to try and swing the brexit vote in favour of remaining, fuck off
Gabriel Hernandez
You can't really count the Chinese. No matter which political system, millions would die because of it. If China became an anti-violent hippie community they'd find a way to brutally kill millions of their own people.
typical eurocommunism =! totalitarian communism of ussr. for example over here communist party was the only party that condemned the surpression of prague spring. are those communist parties eurocommunist or ussr style communists?
Henry Carter
Mao lowest estimate 16,997,000, highest 70,000,000 lmao this highly scientific number that has a margin of fucking 50 MILLION people.
Caleb Green
>Both claims are false. There is literally no major difference between nazism and communism. They're fundamentally different, Stalinism and Nazism just both happened to be authoritarian. That's like saying communism and monarchism are basically the same. >Both are socialist ideologies No, just no. I get it that you're a butthurt pole but this is some american-tier educational level. Stalinism and Nazism were socialistic in label only, they used incentives of social security to lure people into feeding their war machine. >Both are totalitarian The first correct assessment, BUT communism doesn't have to be totalitarian, Stalinism was. >Both believe that removal of some social group would solve all problems of humanity (capitalists, jews, poles and so on) Like authoritarian systems tend to be >Both are militaristic in nature. Yes, Stalinism was militaristic. So was Nazism. You may be the biggest brainlet ITT if you think that socialism = authoritarian police state.
Oliver Perez
This doesn't mean removing annoying retards. It means policing your thoughts. Though, the policing will correspond with social indoctrination so each younger gen will increasingly be pleased with further restrictions and authoritarianism.