Italy, we need to talk

>Italy, we need to talk
>You WILL change that budget, is that correct?

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All EU hating aside why would you spend money you don't have?

because that's how capitalism work

It's not that bad anymore. Why are they being so autistic about Italy? France has a similar deficit

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It's a political battle.
Italy has been marked as the bad populist nation and they have to break it so that in the upcoming European parliament election the other states don't follow up

During the the euro crisis starting from 2010 Italy has been the country who contracted significantly less debt to sustain its deranged economy, and its banking system. Check the data.
Italy has also been steadily trying reducing its debt since adopting the euro, with a positive primary surplus throughout the years, except one during the crisis, something that has no equals in europe
During this time the Italian industry has bleeded itself and its workers almost to death in order to keep up with the German industry, which has access to a significantly cheaper money thanks to significantly cheaper financing statal debt costs, and while confronting at the same time a german commercial surplus with no equals that has constantly been left unaddressed by the EU since 2006.
We lost Libya for the French and for the EU lacking a foreign policy and military vision. We lost 20% of our industry. We lost valuable brands, taken over for cheap by the French conglomerates. We have the same salaries since the 90ies. We have to sustain the second industry output in the EU while battling against the intra euro zone fiscal paradise and the new eastern countries, with their low costs of work and unreal and aggressive tax costs. We were left alone during the 6 years long migrants crisis despite helping Germany without battling an eye when the EU gave 6bn to a soon to be Islamist dictator at our doorstep.
Then we get ridiculed and threatened when a new coalition government with a large parliamentary majority opts for a 0.8 point higher deficit.
Do you dare telling me this isn't a joke?

>inb4 tldr
Germany wants to destroy the only country with a competing manifacturing sector in the EU

Kill Juncker

Because otherwise you are free, and the modern hierarchical feudal system hates uncomitted, loose, freemen and states.

Italy already has a much higher debt.
France's debt is about 100% of GDP, while Italy's is about 140%. It pays about 3000 euros per second in interest rates alone.

Who is going to buy Italy's debt anyway? What investor is going to think "yeah these greaseballs are gonna use my cash wisely and pay me back down the line"?

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check out the per secound dept! holy shit

Italy is about 130%

How did France fuck up so hard?

Italy should hook him up with some vino

Its all neo-liberal poison!
>goy you need to make more dept to spend money you don't have because.. eeerrrr.. you can pay me back my interest?
and all our politicans felt for it.

Come on Italy let's blow that fucking union up

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Be my guest, frexit when? itexit when? two dept horder out, great news for us

That's explicitly not how capitalism works. State overspending on non-sustainable social policies != capitalism.

The same reason EU is autistic about Poland and Hungary: EU marxists hate to see right wing governments and will use every mean available to undermine them

>is that correct?

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>intra euro zone fiscal paradise and the new eastern countries
Elaborate. Everyone here is always complaining about the higher prices ever since we got the Euro
t.Lithuanian

Activate the pasta incinerators.

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If there's a frexit it will mark the end of the European Union, even Italy leaving would be enough

it can't happen soon enough

>Who is going to buy Italy's debt anyway? What investor is going to think "yeah these greaseballs are gonna use my cash wisely and pay me back down the line"?
Bankers with inside knowledge of how willing everyone in Germany is to keep the Euro. That's why Venezuela hasn't collapsed yet, they still keep paying their denbts.

As soon as you will change your drinking habits

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Honestly can't wait EU to fuck Italy in the ass, just like they did with britcucks.

We haven't done anything to the Brits and Italy will only fuck itself and the EU. Once that happens, everyone will, of course, blame the EU.

>to fuck Italy in the ass
If they do, they'll fuck themselves. Brits kept away from th EU since the beginning. Italy is integrated into the EU and fucking with it is a surefire way to send the EU and euro down the political grave (where it does belong tho).

We are not so dumb to leave the EU

>Who is going to buy Italy's debt anyway?


serious answer here: Putin and Trump, maybe China too

I think there were quite a few people in Germany stupid enough to really believe he had problems with the sciatic nerve.

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Germans are stupid enough to vote for Merkel and to believe having muslim rapefugees is a good thing.

Can't deny that.

shitaliexit when?

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give me one thousan dollas

Nope.

That's how Argentinism works

*laughs at your face*

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Argentina tier

eyy ima walkin here
bada bing bada boom

We should side with Italy on this.

>Italy has also been steadily trying reducing its debt since adopting the euro, with a positive primary surplus throughout the years, except one during the crisis, something that has no equals in europe

Italan debt rose in 2005 and 2006. It 'did' shrink continously from 1995 to 2004, which is no mean feat, but it also started at 127.1% of GDP in 1994 so it was WELL overdue.

>and while confronting at the same time a german commercial surplus with no equals that has constantly been left unaddressed by the EU since 2006

A commercial surplus is sort of the sign of doing good business, as opposed to accruing debt.

>Germany wants to destroy the only country with a competing manifacturing sector in the EU

I genuinly laughed, and then I shed a tear.
Its not the 1980s anymore. The fact you guys don't want to realise that is 90% of the problem.

Basically all of this boils down to the fact that germany has moved on and you guys are still trying to compete on the modern global market with the same old mass products that every asian and even some african countries can produce now.
There is no competitive advantage in those.

Yes, Italy can be and in some places is a amazingly productive country, it just produces things that other countries everywhere in the world now also produce and much cheaper, without having a notable quality advantage.

I WILL DRINK FROM YOUR SKULL

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if your country has low debt you aren't taking advantage of the funds your debt can leverage in exchange for development, in addition to public debt allowing for cash flow among local private citizens qnd companies outside the public sphere

it's all about keeping a healthy balance

Because that's how you buy votes.

No you idiot. The closest thing you have to that is Keynesian economics (which is considered left wing by some), but even that generally has paying back your debts in times of plenty as part of the strategy.

France has a significantly lower debt though. France's problems are more recent, Italy's problems are structural. Also, the French are actually making reforms to reduce their deficit, they have been doing so since Hollande (except Hollande was incompetent). The Italians on the other hand want to spend MORE. We might have a second Greece on our hands.

This pisses me off: all the anti-EU movements have fucking RETARDED economics.

no it is not, you stupid digos want money for nothing like greeks

Yeah yeah we are bad and unruly
Stay virtuous and strong

>Yeah yeah we are bad and unruly
Your words, not mine. I'm just looking at the numbers and your numbers say your economy is in the shitter. Then I look at the policies of your "based" leader and I see policies that ruin your economy even further.

Why are the Dutch always the most butthurt about us? Is it because they are irrelevant?

I'm not talking to you, slime.

Shhh he's too busy following based putrini make cashews and injure himself running than care about the economy

I'm not butthurt, I'm just disspelling myths that Italy is an innocent good boi who dindu nuffin and is being bullied by mean Germans from Brussels.

The first step towards solving a problem is acknowledging there is a problem, something the Italians vehemently refuse despite having one of the largest debts in Europe in addition to having one of its largest deficits AND one of its largest unemployment rates.

because they payed for the retardation of meds because eurozone

Why do Italians elect a party that wants to make more debts? Don't they care about future generations?

Who is he texting Jow Forums?

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It's a party that tells them what they want to hear. Having to pay for the stupidity of previous generations is always difficult.

They voted two parties, one is populist that promised to clean up corruption and give unlimited gibs and the other is anti-immigration that promised low taxes. Neither of which has ever been a member of a coalition government before

>Neither of which has ever been a member of a coalition government before
Wrong, Lega Nord has already been in all of Berlusconi's governments

I don't remember the league under salvini holding any important offices

Salvini became leader of the party in 2013, LN has existed since long before that and has been the major coalition ally in all of Berlusconi's governments
If your argument is that they have no experience in being at the government you're factually wrong

It's not the same league, the current league is a new party under salvini with current administrative roles taken over by kids with no pragmatic experience

Just because the leadership changed doesn't mean all the old members of the party got purged

As per pact, eu countries canmot have long running account surplus, which of course, is ignored for germans

There's always a way out

>a greasy wop vs JVPITER

And the Dutch, Sweden and Italy.

dump ze italian stocks

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FUCK i always forget to reply to the post

pay denbts shitaly