>be Pole
>use latin to represent its language
>szczszczszczszczszcz
is Polish the Vietnamese of Europe in terms of using orthography?
Be Pole
>philippines
When is that video from?
>be philipino
>malnourished in childhood - smol brain
>fail do realize there's no difference between polish "cz" and english "ch" as there's no difference between "sz" and "sh", they're pronounced roughly the same it's that the symbol representing the other half of the digraph is different
>post hehe silly language on Jow Forums
pic rel
>be Polish man Januszszwywzyw Koczywywzycwzyalskyskysky from village Wachyzychzcyzchwcyzwhzwy
>deny Polish is stupid language
>be toothpaste
>be used to keep people's teeth clean and their breath fresh
t. dutch totally doesn't sound like drunk australian english
grug not understand scribbles
grug angry
grug think scribbles stupid
Cyrillic would make your words 50% shorter on average though
>Januszszwywzyw Koczywywzycwzyalskyskysky from village Wachyzychzcyzchwcyzwhzwy
Seriously, why do Poles do this? did they all have their teeth knocked out one time?
Even if that was the case and we ignore the fact that cyrylic doesn't have half the sounds that Polish has so it would still require either inventing new symbols or digraphing existing ones, so fucking what?
Cyryllic was invented for old-church slavonic, a sister language to old polish.
Yeah, if we invented 10 new letters for our phonemes and then got Russians butthurt with "waaah why butcher Cyrillic it'd look better in Latin"
>obligatory let's get collectively butthurt at Poland thread
my favourite time of the day.
makes me feel as we're relevant
Getting butthurt at the butthurt belt is like reverse Jow Forums
They could just not write in such a stupid way while still using the Latin script.
>cyrylic doesn't have half the sounds that Polish has
Like what?
The silly crossed L
>ž
>š
>č
>šč
looks better desu
here comes the butthurt squad
Ł, Ć, ź, differentiation between ch/h or ó/u or ż/rz
>ż/rz
What's the difference?
>>ž
completely indistinguishable from ź when written poorly or from a distance
>>š
completely indistinguishable from ś when written poorly or from a distance
>>č
completely indistinguishable from ć when written poorly or from a distance
>ź
>ś
>ć
Bad meme
rz is used in words that inflect to r
ż is used in words that inflect to z
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brzęczyszczykiewicz
youtube.com
Its not a tongue twister, it's extremely easy to pronounce.
>rz is used in words that inflect to r
What's the point in that? just write r
Serbs and Belarusers do just fine with extra letters? Don't see Russkis complaining about those
topkek
>Don't see Russkis complaining about those
good argument yeah.
When will you aspies realize the world is not one of your paradox videogames?
>be Poland
>use Latin script since Jesus founded the country in 966 after his birth
>autists on Jow Forums try to force a forgein alphabet on them
>by this we could ask why don't Germans use kanji
There is absolutely no reason why you need both rz, ž and ź, as well as all those other meme letters.
West slavs only use l*tin latters because they are cucktholics.
You got colonized by a bunch of christian turks
come the fuck on
tbf Latin isn't perfectly suited to us either, wouldn't mind some extra letters to deal with ch or sch
ą, ę, ć, ź, ci, zi, ś, si, dź, dzi, dż, dz, clear ł/l distinction.
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>MY NON-DIGRAPH SPEAKING ASS IS ON FIREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
itt
My parents say Polish, Czech and Slovakia are pretty easy to learn and make perfect sense compared to English
t.Vietnamese
Бжeнчишчикeвич > Brzęczyszczykiewicz
Why are people on Jow Forums permanently buttblasted about Poland?
What have Poles done to you?
Well tb h is pretty funny how's writed. Seems like a language written by a stroke victim
>ę becomes en
>y becomes i
Good job at proving my point. You aren't even proficient enough at cyryllic to form an opinion.
That's Brzencziszczikewicz though, not Brzęczyszczykiewicz. You'd sound like you're imitating a stereotypical pre-war Jew.
Can't talk for all Jow Forums but hungarians and poles are generally pretty arrogant (especially on Jow Forums). So its funny to make fun of you. But in all honesty I have nothing against Poland or poles
Use Hungarian ortography it 90% german orthography
Sch = s
ch = h ( we don't have that distinction between soft h and strong h)
>brzęczyszczykiewicz
>pronounced brekzishchkiewich
why
There's a difference between making fun of something and being assblasted about something all the time though. Jow Forums is a heavy case of the latter
Hasn't en historically merged to the nasal anyway? If so there should be no confusion. And yeah, y rather corresponds to ы
Eh, but then the regular s becomes written sz
The pot calling the kettle black
>>pronounced brekzishchkiewich
I can understand not being capable of reading a digraph proficiently but are you deaf or something?
Serious question. Do people speaking languages that don't feature particular sounds have underdeveloped brains that make them oblivious to these particular sounds or something?
Nasal vowels are remnants from proto-slavic. Only Polish retained them.
As I told I can't talk for everyone. Don't take it so seriously though. This thread for example is pretty much justified. I mean polish is a pretty strange language
you should probably stop posting and embarrasing yourself friend.
Dojcsland, Dojcsland űber állesz,
Űber állesz in dér Velt,
Venn esz stétsz cu Sutz/Succ und Trutze
Brűderlih cuzámmenhelt,
Fon dér Mász bisz án dí Mémel,
Fon dér Eccs bisz an dén Belt -
|: Dojcsland, Dojcsland űber állesz,
Űber állesz in dér Velt. :|
Here I Hungarianized your anthem.
much easier to read
There's a very clear distinction between ę/en and ą/on and all of them are in use.
And completely wrong.
Poland's error was to learn how to write from germans
better even if it looks "stupid" or alien
now someone post Franklin's english writing
our spelling is more historical than phonetic
Our "rz" and "ż" are indeed pronounced the same, but "rz" comes from soft "r", while "ż" comes from standard Slavic "ž". Basically, Polish has "rz" where other Slavic languages have soft "r" and "ż" where other Slavs have ž.
Ź is a completely different phoneme, it's soft "z".
>Polish is spoken by more people than all other west and south slavic languages combined
>reee it's Poles who should adopt Czech or Croatian spelling
English is harder to write to be honest. Our voices are kinda germanized. Of course the transcipt isn't 100%, because German pronounciation is much softer. For me other languages sound like people speak with half closed mouthes.
Áj pledzs ölidzsensz to dö fleg of dö junájtid sztétsz of amerika end to dö ripáblik for vics it sztendsz, ván nésön ándör gád, indivizibl, vit liberti end dzsásztisz for ol.
>inb4 ide jön vmelyik kutya és fikázza a kiejtésemet.
why don't poles just shorten their name to something normal sized lmao its that easy
t. Ping Pong
no no, i'm not telling you to hungarianize english
i was just pointing out that english isn't free of sin here, they also have irregularities
and Benjamin Franklin proposed to change that
>Poland's error was to learn how to write from germans
Technically, Polish writing was based on Old Czech. But they did get it from the Germans, so...
The most common surname in Poland is "Nowak".
hmm, didn1t know about that.
what the fuck am I reading
poles pretty much BTFO by based toothpaste
It's a religious dichotomy.
Poland and Lithuania are Catholic, and so they use the Latin alphabet, while all of the Cyrillic-writing countries are majority Orthodox, and so use Cyrillic (which I believe is based off of Greek, like Latin)
No idea why Czechia uses the Latin alphabet, though. When I went there, they seemed to be mostly atheist. Maybe they just never cared to make the switch. Or maybe there was an inquisition.
>be Dutch
>retarded German with some Anglo-Frisian influence
>Cough and clear my throat through a bullhorn
>It's a coherent Dutch sentence
See
They are of catholic background thanks to the Habsburg
don't call it czechia, that really sounds annoying
Fakin bjutiful. Rimajnds mi of dołz freds łer ewriłan rajts inglisz łif dejr ołn lengłydżys spelin.
It's called like this from three years already (they gov wanted Czechia as a shorter name)
The Croatian is partly based of Polish anyway.
omniglot.com
The Croatian Latin was mostly designed in 1835 by Ljudevit Gaj, a Croatian linguist, who based it on the Czech and Polish alphabets. Today his alphabet is used in Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Montenegro and Serbia, and variations of his alphabet are used for Slovene and Macedonian.
Dis is indid en ekskłizit egzempyl.
Habsburgs weren't a thing when Poland and Czechia was christianized.
Bohemia converted to Catholicism long before the Hapsburgs even came to power in the HRE.
Ah yes, I see the bait has worked perfectly
they took "ć" from us
the funny thing is that ć isn't really used in Croatian, this consonant exists only in Serbia, in Croatia it's pronounced the same like č
Everyone calls it Czechia, only Anglos do the retarded "Czech Republic"
>ą, ę, ć, ź, ci, zi, ś, si, dź, dzi, dż, dz, clear ł/l distinction
Imagine having all this shit in your language
>said a speaker of the language with ă â î ș ț
For a short time after the velvet divorce, Polish mapmakers were using "Republika Czeska" for some unfathomable reason. It did NOT catch on. Before year 2000 everyone collectively pat themselves on the head and the normalcy resumed.
brutal redpills
>completely indistinguishable from ź when written poorly or from a distance
That's already true of ż to be fair
when it's critical Ż is written like Ƶ
pic related, the roof lights.
yea its called tsjekkia
stop bullying our language, it's shit but our so just s-stop
Nice, I didn't know that
Don't worry, I like your language
We have 5 special characters, not 50, and one of them exists just for aesthetics.
Ingliș rităn laic dis is objectivlii supiriăr
Finno-Ugrics should use Tengwar desu.
Čekija
You can use Latin for slavic and still have it look decent, like Croatian/Bosnian; which is arguably one the easiest languages to read.