Is it just me or is Dublin depressing af outside the city center...

It is a bit depressing, yeah. Pretty grimy city generally.

Dublin was a literal village just 30 years ago, their impressive economic growth isn't followed by the sufficient growth of their urban areas and housing space so Dublin is one of the most overpriced cities in the world nowadays

Got a job offer from a quite known multinational corporation.

boring suburbs are pretty depressing to me, especially when they cover 90% of the city.

>their impressive economic growth isn't followed by the sufficient growth of their urban areas and housing space
Dublin is as big as it needs to be. Remember that Ireland's population is pretty small. I would like to see taller buildings for aesthetic purposes but I don't think they're completely necessary

>Dublin is as big as it needs to be

the expat community wouldn't agree with you

Dublin has so many well paid jobs but so little affordable living space. Native Irish people (who own the houses) wouldn't fill the jobs so expats are badly needed to maintain current GDP growth.

>so expats are badly needed to maintain current GDP growth
Ireland has a high rate of people with 3rd level education. We can fill those jobs with Irish people, Ireland doesn't need expats and cosmopolitanism goes against the Irish ethos desu

>Irish ethos
Getting drunk and glassing people ?

>We can fill those jobs with Irish people

No, you can't. Otherwise no expats would be even invited by the companies located in Ireland.

Remember, that well paid jobs don't come to Ireland because of the Irish people but because of your tax laws and being part of the EU so they know they can hire people from all over the EU.

> Ireland doesn't need expats

No problem, vote for an Irexit party and we will see how many jobs will remain in Ireland when it leaves the EU.

>No problem, vote for an Irexit party and we will see how many jobs will remain in Ireland when it leaves the EU.
I would vote for an Irexit party but it would never gain traction here since everyone is brainwashed into being pro-EU. I know leaving the EU would leave us with an Eastern Europe tier economy but it would be worth it if it meant that the expats and immigrants left. That is how much I hate modern cosmopolitan Ireland: I would be willing to give up prosperity to reverse it

You're not a particularly intelligent person, right ?

Ireland was always multicultural and cosmopolitan, not only Irish people lived there.

Would you also stop speaking English, the oppressor's language?

There were a lot of Italians in Edinburgh. But its probably poorer than Dublin

Yes, you are correct. Dublin is a wasteland because the remnant colonist-collaborator class there still makes the whole country dance to its tune, despite being infinitely smaller and less talented than the "pull factors" that great shitstain provided in order to make that ugly city capital.
Theyve depopulated the rural areas and made Leinster an extended suburb of Dublin, but that's still not enough and they're importing third worlders to duxk up the city and by extension the country even more.
And because they dont want to tear down their precious english colonial buildings to build modern accoutrements for thr city and its more profitable to build ghost estates in thr countryside, they are expanding dublin endlessly.

>Ireland was always multicultural and cosmopolitan, not only Irish people lived there.
No it wasn't. The immigrant/expat community was insignificant here before the Celtic Tiger. Ireland's best era coincides with the beginning of the Celtic Tiger because we had started to see prosperity but didn't yet have an established immigrant population

>Would you also stop speaking English, the oppressor's language?
I would happily speak Irish but if most of the population isn't willing to do it then obviously I can't because then we can't communicate with each other. I can't be personally faulted for a collective behaviour

>Ireland was always multicultural and cosmopolitan
kek u wot? ireland was a backwater until the 90s

>No it wasn't.

Yes, it was, you always had a lot of protestant Brits.

see above

>Yes, it was, you always had a lot of protestant Brits.
Both communities kept to themselves and didn't like each other, I wouldn't say that's cosmopolitanism. Also, there weren't even that many Protestant Brits here. They were a minority but ruled over the Catholic Irish majority and the bulk of them were concentrated in what is now Northern Ireland. We're talking about the Republic here

And you always had lots of Germans and Jews. Where are they now?

Pipe down Piotr

>Ireland was always multicultural and cosmopolitan
uncle addy missed one

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Poles don't speak German or Hebrew.

>even someone who hasn't even moved here can see the problems with Dublin

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Yeah and Irish arent protestants who originate from and/or love Britain. Historically they didnt speak English either until the 1850s genocides them, and hopefully won't again.

>wouldn't fill the jobs so expats are badly needed to maintain current GDP growth.
ah yes all those Polish, Romanian, Nigerian and Chinese experts.
Immigrants take most of the blue collar jobs if anything

>Immigrants take most of the blue collar jobs if anything

But a great number of them work in the white collar jobs as well.

Also, no white collar job can exist without several blue collar jobs "supporting" it. No one would move a company to Ireland if there were no office buildings (built by Eastern Europeans), people maintaining these buildings (like Polish plumbers), decent shops and restaurants (run by Nigerians and Chinese) etc.

Also, since immigrants supposedly take most of the blue collar jobs, why are you concerned about it? They fill jobs native Irish people don't want as they are too educated to clean toilets.

Can comfirm.
We are probably one of the most overrated countries in EU.
>everything overpriced
>unaffordable housing
>impossible to rent
>disfunctional healthcare
>shitty public transport
>only country in western europe without any metro system
>literally a tax heaven for corporations

Can carry on and on but what's the point. Will be leaving this shithole in a couple of months.

you're right. what a shithole.

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Where are you from? It's similar to that in pretty much all irish cities. I can tell you it's not depressing at all, but you may want to live closer to the center.

Ireland is awesome, but as in any other place, you need money and at the end of the day your experience is shaped by that and your lifestyle. I lived 1 year there, in Cork.

Oh fuck off.
Never saw a decent Chinese restaurant in Ireland, or any Nigerian restaurant at all.
And they built too many houses for no reason but to make the rich richer off speculation, so to claim that implanting a foreign population approaching british tier levels to make that happen is a good thing are rubbish.

T. Potato

For some reason their infrastructure is bad and they don't pay attention construct things well. In Cork where I lived, you had only like 1 street which looked good, the rest was lazy built, even the sidewalks were built of plain concrete.

Rome, I'll be moving to Dublin 12
>inb4 yeah what did you expect
Yes, yes, I wanted to move to Paris but didn't find anything.

Another curiosity about Ireland is that irish rednecks are absolutely crazy, and you don't need to go that far to see them. Police doesn't seem to care either, it's incredible. I saw two dudes horse racing on the street and multiple times kids doing things like burning a shopping cart next to a shopping center. Nobody seemed to care. wtf.

Gotta cope with depression somehow...

Paris lmao. You think that place is better? Not only the city sucks, you have french too.

looks like home

now I know why so many Poles love Ireland

>Never saw a decent Chinese restaurant in Ireland, or any Nigerian restaurant at all.

You have an inflated feeling of decency then.

>And they built too many houses for no reason

>Ireland faces huge immigration every year

>they build houses for no reason

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I actually have a lot of french friends, and yes, I do think that Paris is better. What I don't like of Dublin is that it looks like a second-tier city, and despite the maymays Paris is one of the few cities that can match Rome for beauty.
Even London would have been better than Dublin 2bh.

Ireland in general looks like that. Beauty is absolutely secondary when you move there to live.

I always got the impression that Ireland was a poor country pretending to be rich. Like if you scrape away the shiny new paint, you see a rusty old car that would collapse if it were not for the new paint holding it together. The modern cosmopolitan air it tries to project just feels so fake.

But the UK outside London looks pretty much the same like Ireland

One can easily argue that outside of London England is pretty poor.

it's not exactly poor in terms of wages, I mean people in small British towns still earn quite a lot (especially as far as purchasing power is concerned because rent is quite cheap there), it's just infrastructure and maintenance that are pretty shit, everything is run down and depressing like it was a very poor country

Dublin was the first city I went to when I started travelling Europe and it is the most dreary, dull place I have been to.
>inb4 "muh craic"
fuck off. Temple Bar is just bars and restaurants like every city has.

But the feeling I get in Ireland is something different, a sort of falseness to it all, like it's rich but at the same time nobody has any money. When I went to Dublin, while it looks new, it also seemed cheap and artificial, the streets may have new stone slab paving and LED streetlights, etc, but it still feels poor and rundown. It's hard to describe.

>When I went to Dublin, while it looks new, it also seemed cheap and artificial, the streets may have new stone slab paving and LED streetlights, etc, but it still feels poor and rundown.

this is literally a description of 90% of British towns

the difference (or maybe it's not a difference because it may be the same in Ireland) is that people there do have money, just for some reason they don't spend it to improve their neighborhood or even their house

maybe that's just protestant mentality but then I don't know how it is in Ireland

Same here. Just walking around Dublin it looked and felt like a depressing second-rate British city. Where was all the new money? The streets weren't full of Ferraris, they were full of beggars and junkies. I assume it's a case of people get paid a lot but also pay a lot in housing costs so are no better off.

düsseldorf is a soulles piece of shit

The problem with beggars has more to do with the housing market I'd say. There seems to be no supply at all for the lower-incomes.

>The streets weren't full of Ferraris
Ireland isn't some mega rich place like Monaco, you shouldn't have expected Ferraris.
>I assume it's a case of people get paid a lot but also pay a lot in housing costs so are no better off.
Housing is expensive here and eats into people's incomes. It's common to live in a houseshare, similarly to London. Income tax is also high here so people don't have as much excess income as you would expect

>There seems to be no supply at all for the lower-incomes.
I'm a student and I have cheap accommodation in Dublin. I got the place through someone I know. People with no connections here (i.e immigrants) generally only see the places on Daft that extort people who don't know any better. Doesn't stop immigrants coming here though. I worked in an American multi-national for a while and was saddened by how many different nationalities worked there

there are some nice places in south dublin. I like my hometown

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The areas that look nice on google maps seems to be concentrated on the coast tho, can't really afford that.

that's cause they are all on the coast. if you live in Dublin and don't live on the train line, you're probably living in a lower class housing estate or on a farm

Was there in the 90s. It was Belarus-tier, but it was Irish. All paddys and fenians doing classic, charming paddyfenian things.

Went again in the early 2010s. Only kebabs, kielbasa and international merchants around. The few paddys I could spot were plasticfags drinking starbucks coffee and being kindly condescendent to the kebab dealer.

Except for based limerick, you wouldn't be in risk of getting your head bashed in for chatting shit anymore. I mean, not by a paddy.

This is what Bill Gates did to Ireland.

Why don't you move to London? Huge Italian community too

I went to Dublin a few years ago and stayed in Ballsbridge (lol). it was quite comfy with nice Georgian buildings but very dull. I walked to the Martello tower that is in Ulysses which was very nice.

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I wish I could, but the offer that I received is in Dublin (and if I could have chosen I would have moved directly to Paris anyway). I hope I won't stay in Dublin more than two years though.

>to maintain current GDP growth
Why does growth need to be maintained?
Let it settle naturally.

>and made Leinster an extended suburb
Absolutely.

Dublin is probably one of the ugliest cities I've been to desu

Uninspired architecture, bland, river looks like shit, trash everywhere, etc.