Okay guys today I am going to hand you the redpill of your life time. An economy has short term and long term debt cycles. A shot one usually last about 10 years and a long one 80-100 years. The debt levels have never been higher, central banks pumped a SHITTON of money into the economy, crippling the interest rates with it. The central banks reached their limits to stimulate the economy and asset prices. There are a lot of indications that we are at the end of an big debt cycle. This essentially means that the economy is going to suffer hard in the next years, people will lose their jobs and houses because they cant pay off their debt. There is a MASSIVE recession right in front of us. Its going to be brutal. The market situation is comparable to the time around 1935-1945 in the USA. Now here is the interesting part, this time we have cryptocurrencies. Usually people tend to go back in save investments in those times of trouble (with as little correlation to the stock and bond market as possible). Its usually gold/cash. However, gold's correlation with the stock market increased over time and doesnt make it a very good safe haven anymore. But crypto does. If the recession is finally here, it could trigger the biggest bull run in crypto that we have ever seen. I am talking about hundreds of billions flodding into the crypto market, just to lower the correlation of the portfolios. Then there will be fear of a collapse of the financial system and a lot of investors and normies invest in something which would survive a collapse. Gold and other precious metals were the prefered way of doing that but now a new and better option is here: cryptocurrencies. Accumulate my friends, dont fear the short term losses and bears, we have great times ahead of us! Accumulate my friends.
Okay guys today I am going to hand you the redpill of your life time...
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>people will save up in cryoto for a decade
Surely youre not this stupid friendo
Unironically this
AAAAAAHHHH THE DEBT IS TOO MUCH AAAAAAAHHH ITS ALL GOING TO CRASH
SELL SELL SELL SELL
this one is so big we could destroy ourselves.
if you come through the reset you will exist in a global economy in perfect equilibrium between resource and population
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH STOOOOP IT IM GOING TO JUMP FROM A WINDOW WEER ALL GOING TO DIE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
But durrr dem bitcorns are scam the media said so
The debt levels wont rise forever and it is time. For a government there is usually just one way to get rid of the debt and thats inflation.
Does your mumbo-jumbo work for shitcoins too ?
The US dollar is already losing its position. Oil and other commodities are not solely traded over the USD anymore but the Renminbi. The Renminbi has unironically a chance to take the place of the USD.
It is hard to give an estimate which cryptos survive/win this race. I am talking more general about the crypto market. However, I am invested in ETH(25%), BCH(35% inb4 bcash bcash), EOS(15%), BTC(10%) and some shitcoin projects with potential.
Could you show more indicators? I'm trying to get a clear picture
yes, it's not surprising the first crypto whitepaper was written by the USAs very own NSA
if they can't have a centralised world currency no one can
just leaves the centralisation of energy to fix which explains USA support of Israel and global warming
You ignore:
- bretton woods
- aftershocks of the great depression
- good ol' WW2
And a metric fuckton of other factors, which makes your "redpill" a simple homeopathic pill with a funny collor.
Go back to /pol, faggot. Some of us actually know how economy and finance work.
I recommend the video of Ray Dalio "How the economic machine works". If you dont know him, he is probably one of the greatest minds out there when it comes to economics and is the founder of Bridgewater Associates.
To the current market situation: We have new highs in the stock markets which are generated by the QE. They are just boosted and cannot sustain. The Fed and other central banks have to smaller their balance sheets by selling the assets which they bought in the QE and the financial crisis. The amounts which they have to sell are enormous. In a nutshell, central banks boosted markets short term by giving out very cheap money.
I am not /pol and have a masters degree in macroeconomics. I am working at a pension fund (~150 Billions AuM), doing their macro research. So I would say that I have some expertise in the field my newfriend.
you do fucking realize there was a war going on, right?
So how long do we have to go until the recession? Of course it's impossible to tell exactly but if you had to guess. 5-10 years?
You still can make statements about the general economy with respect to the war. Also the economy was already in a recession before the war started.
I think it could start this year or in the next one or two. I wouldnt give it 5 years but also depending what the central banks do. If they go for another QE round, it could take more time.
I have his book principles, I'm watching the video now. Thanks for explaining
He also said we are in a pre bubble just 2 months ago,
you do realize that there was no internet back then? and in fact the whole economic situation isn't even close to comparable
Just watch datadash's video from yesterday
Thank you user.
my body is ready
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
Do you guys truly think people in their right mind would use crypto as a hedge. It just seems too out there for me. The elite would have done studies and have plans in place to counteract this from happening so they maintain control. It wouldn’t surprise me if they know exactly when it will happen.
what happens to cash in a recession or a depression? does purchasing power drop a lot?
crypto is in fact the PERFECT hedge because its market movements are uncorrelated to ALL other asset classes. Its almost irresponsible not to have some money in crypto, and with some I do mean ~2% or so for the average investor, ~80% for me :)
Sidepoint: there's over 400x as much paper Gold as actual Gold being traded. Any Goldbugs who want to claim shitcoins are unsafe need to look in the mirror. The powers that be can crush Gold any time they want.
>muh safe value store....
It's just another shitcoin.
Think wheelbarrows filled with 100s, to buy bread.
>400x as much paper Gold as actual Gold being traded
How is this even possible?
Same way a bank doesn't run out of money as long as everyone doesn't try and withdraw their money literally in coins and notes all at the same time
Such a stupid theory. It got shilled on Ancap forums and Jow Forums mainly (I was there, oldfag) - you REALLY think the NSA at the time gave a shit about this place? If they wanted a world currency, they'd just have an academic make it and release via the World Bank. Any plan that involves "Hey guys, I've got a perfect plan to take over the world, let's provide a p2p money so all those NEET on those Korean basket weaving boards can buy drugs and shill it organically for us, so in 10 years or so we can bring the global economy to its knees safely" as an element is retarded beyond measure. Take fewer blackpills faggot.
Any why the FUCK would they want to decentralise energy production? Their evil scheme is we all get to have clap, clean energy we produce ourselves? Holy fuck, what a masterplan, they destroy their own cash cow because of reasons. You're such a brainlet.
WHAT IS THE GREAT DEPRESSION AND WW2 YOU ABSOLUTE BRAINLET
this is true for now. once a crisis really occurs and these etf bagholders try to get their hands on muh their gold they will find that the only exit is fiat. the etf will collapse when demand for real physical gold occurs if it ever happens not some paper manipulated nonsense.
>he hasn't read biblical prophecy
if the Iran deal does not get renegotiated WW3 will start. Antichrist is among us people, this stock market collapse was all planned out by the elites to turn people into savages. Student debt, housing debt, auto loans, currency debt, it is all over guys. The antichrist will make the UN invest in a new """crypto""" RFID system, refuse the mark of the beast people. God save us all.
>one glass of water please
>Longs go down
>Shorts go down
>Cash goes down
>Crypto goes down
I'm just going to invest in sports cars. If I die of starvation in the next year then at least I'll die happy.
I never said Jow Forums has anything to do with the creation of crypto. It's the possible the USA is actually still the libertarian nation its constitution set up and has been using central banking as fire against communist fire until such a technology as crypto came along and made currency debasement non viable
oil is the mechanism of the usd being reserve currency today. Countries don't want to be exposed to us inflation but they have to because the US military razes any middle eastern oil supplying nation that doesn't sell their oil exclusively in usd.
Whether they made crypto or not it can't be stopped so in order to maintain world dominance the US woul have to control the supply of oil (establish israels dominion over middle east) or decentralise it so no one can leverage its supply for geopolitics (renewables, global warming)
the amount of rage and ad hominen in your posts makes me think you're a shill
And here comes the dumbass burger heretics.
>muh Mark of the Beast
It could be ANYTHING, you fucks thought it was credit cards back in the 1980s. Now it's cryptos. Next it'll be something else. Such brainlets, this is what happens when you don't have the Magesterium of the true Church founded by Christ to guide you & prevent your retarded interpretations.
>you're a shill
No, I'm tired of hearing stupid shit from brainlets constantly. There's enough REAL conspiracies out there - the shit you're spreading is just straight up d&c blackpills. You're doing (((their))) work for them.
>lack of rebutal
>CAPITALS
>antisemitic brackets
how is russia this time of year?
Cryptocurrency is inherently tied to normal currency. It's literally in the name. If the entire world economy decides to go down the shitter, that means prices rise, production lowers. Now tell me why the fuck would you get even more of a currency, albeit an electronic NON EXISTANT IN REAL LIFE one, in a world where you no longer can buy and sell as easily as you used to?
FBI pls go, proprietary coins for """security""" purposes will be very real. It is fiat 2.0
Here better view of crash
Synthetic replication of gold (e.g. with futures on gold)
There are different reasons for it but mainly because there is no involvement of a central bank in it which can fuck around with monetary policies. You dont have the country risk, issuer risk and inflation risk. The number of the currency is limited. Thats a key point. There is no other way of getting rid of the debt than by inflation. Eventually governments will fuck over the population by devaluing their savings just to get rid of their debt. At the moment we live at the cost of future generations. And when that happens you definitely want to be invested in a non inflationary investment (crypto) and not the meme money of the government.
You might think you can switch in a stronger currency like the Swiss Franc but they have to adapt and to weaken their own currency or the companies in the country cant export anymore. Currencies are realtive to each other.
wasn't the 2008 crisis the end of the long-term debt cycle?
No debt is still rising (also because due to 2008 and the low interest rates caused by it). The end of the debt cycle will cause a tremendous reduction in the global debt. Look at that chart
The NSA/CIA conspiracy theory is classic schizophrenic boomer retardation. Self-defeating mentality.
Already all in I think you're preaching to the wrong choir here. I'm actually trying to see if I can afford to go in 3k more but I'll be eating tuna, rice for 1 month so Idk if it's worth it.
I sometimes forget that biz is not here to talk about business and finance but for shitcoin shills, wojaak posts and braps. But I am also almost all in and still accumulating even though I am not excluding some heavy dumps in the near futures. More regulations are coming, more coins are going to exit scam etc. which will eventually crash the market. But if you manage to hold through that stuff and if you are flexible in your coins (nu cult behaviour) then you will be rewarded in the future. I am talking about 10-20 years in the future so you have to be very patient.
Kike detected. Gas yourself at the earliest opportunity.
Kek, in one thread I'm apparently both Russian and FBI. That's awesome, who let the fucking boomers out tonight?
And what's the purpose of using a proprietary token for tracking people exactly? If it's just a ledger without public accessibility use a regular database. You're one of those "Bitcoin has no future, only blockchain" morons aren't you?
>thinking anyone other than a self-entitled plebbit faggot would read this wall of stupidity
Magnamous if butthole
If only you fucktards replaced "cryptocurrencies" with Bitcoin I could take your threads seriously.
OP confirmed for absolute brainlet.
fuck off newfag
Sounds like someone got triggered.
Hedge with pm like gold. Gold has history and is a clear store of value.
>Inbefore coiners are butthurt
Yes, Bitcoin "could" be one too, but has yet to overcome a financial crisis.
This is why you wont make it user. Your brain cannot process something more than the usual shit posts on this board. It got so much worse in the last 8 months and is infested by absolute brainlets from /pol, /b, and other shitty boards.
Look at how gold did during the crisis. The negative correlation in crashes is gone
>>implying ww3 is not priced in to the plan
Oh, right. Take another one and show me your meme graph again. As some anons already pointed out...gold is artifical inflated with paper gold around. Once the manipulation ends and it will in the next crisis (which will several times worse than 2008).
You think states like china, India, russia, japan etc are buying REAL gold, just for fun?
People cannot flee into low risk assets like bonds etc, because exactly that Shit will blow up.
New technology like BTC could lead to a new paradigm and options...but way too young and risky.
Hedging is the way to go. And always DYOR.
*Phoneposting btw
Forgive me anons.
no, i can just tell when something is horrifically formatted, incoherent rambling from some faggot who thinks they have some "hidden knowledge" others don't know about
We've been shilling this for years when is the actual fucking crash going to happen fuck
You are implying that the next crash will completely destroy the financial system and everything except for gold loses its value. Even though there is a shitloat of synthetic products on gold that does not mean that only the physical gold keeps its value. Only if the entire system collapses which is very unlikely. So your argumwnt is not really valid since you can easily also hedge with synthetic gold products if the issuer is very unlikely to default.
can you post a larger resolution photo of that graph please user
Just look at Venezuela and Zimbabwe. When the system collapses and the currency becomes worthless people will flee to crypto.
reminder the sage and hide these commie/Kidcap threads
youtube.com
Don't worry. Nationalsocialism will come to the rescue.
>BCH(35% inb4 bcash bcash), EOS(15%), BTC(10%)
rofl; forget it
Cool story op. Guess what, another delusional larper in my eyes.
Stock market had a crash a few months ago, the first one...
Biz was laughing at the boomers. Guess what the larps were saying here? They would bring their funds into crypto
>Btc absolutely shits the bed
>How is this even possible?
You think that was a crash? user please...
I am full time capitalist. Nothing I stated was even sligthly communist
Its not hidden knowledge, you are just too retarded to see it.
I dont have it in a higher resolution but its bigger
based
They aren't gonna bring their beloved safe investment money into a ponzi scheme market where all they have heard about recently is btc crashing and regulators upping policy.
Prove me wrong, I want to believe. But I always play devil's advocate to keep the delusion in check on biz.
Exactly this is the unknown factor. Stuff Like cryprus 2013 are indicating sth, but who knows.
>kidcap
Fuck off fag
Ancaps are arguably worst than commies, definitely just as stupid
so how can i make money off the crash.. far away SPY puts?
>I am trained in gorilla warfare
ok pajeet, gorilla warfare... kek
you have to go back
Crypto will evolve to something more eventually and we can just hope it does it before the markets crash. If it would crash this year then I dont think there would be a big inflow of money. However, the story looks completely different in a year or two when the market is hopefully better regulated and volatiliy decreases. Investors wont allocate their complete portfolio in crypto but it would be a good move to switch some of it to HEDGE against the market.
>this level of absolute delusion
Dumbpill of your life
Something cant be both stablr and sprculative
Crypto is the most speculative asset
It will drain first in recession dumbass.
Order is:
Crypto
Stocks
Bonds
Land
>someone predict the next market crash for me
Your new is showing faggot fuck off
>Having any debt
>whatsoever
>not having your own water well and filters with enough food in veggies and some fruits
>not owning your own farm
>not having a gun in case the ultimate shit hits the fan
Must suck to be you. seriously though, live debt free and hold your positions, or better yet, buy the S&P and DOW dip. easy money.
>dip
LUL
1 BTC = 1 BTC
>Renminbi
China's debt problem makes the Italy debt problem look like a minor blip on a chart.
China is literally sitting on an ocean of bad debt AND they keep pumping more and more into shitty state-owned companies without reforming them.
China will be the source of the next global economic disaster, not the US or Europe.
you're a moron
hey I just read your entire post. It was a solid read. Just to be clear your red pill is go all in on crypto?
this is already happening on wall street you fucking moron. inform yourself you over confident dumbass.bitcoin is a non-correlated asset