If you want to retire earliest, you realize MGTOW is your best bet, right? Or does having a woman in your life pushing you to work harder end up making you wealthier which allows you to retire earlier?
Which is it bros?
Is MGTOW the most financially responsible decision?
Ayden Perez
Brody Brooks
If your only goal is to retire early then yeah.
But if you meet the right girl and refuse to take it further because it would cost money, then you don't have your priorities straight.
Michael Gray
Cope harder, faggot. Your family tree goes back millions of years and your ancestors have survived through some of the worst conditions imaginable. It's a wonder that you're even alive, but instead of continuing your family legacy you've decided to live your life as a pathetic, lonely virgin. All under the guise of "going your own way", which is just another way of saying that you intend to waste the rest of your life playing video games and other degenerate garbage. Get your life back together now so that when you're on you're deathbed, you can reflect on all the positive things you did for the world rather than how much you leeched off society.
Nolan Myers
Faggots going "women reee" is the same shit as nocoiners. Risk-averse bitching instead of doing something about it and counting gains.
Ayden Jackson
>implying they can actually do something about it and they are not just evolutionary dead-ends
William Jackson
It's the most Jewish dicision.
Ryan Gray
Adam Russell
Sup nu-Jow Forums.
Never any shortage of beta males out there looking to scape their social and romantic on a goat, when it's not Jews, it's Japan, video games, Chad, mom, dad, the girls who don't want to fuck you even though you don't regularly brush your teeth, etc etc
Hunter Richardson
Such cope. Just remove yourself from evolutionary history then you loser. More resources for my offspring. Why aren't you claiming welfare? Jews want to gibs, take it. Stop working, claim neetbux, breed and if a woman wants money - sorry, nothing to take, just neetbux. Naturally, buy XMR using Payfair with your welfare money. Best of all worlds, live the dream.
Luke Ross
100% this.
Eli Smith
People in the past fucked not to preserve muh legacy but because the mother nature told them to fuck nice bitches. Had condoms been popular hundreds years ago most of us wouldn't be here right now. Nature didn't expect humans to come up with birth control methods and since you can fuck a bitch satysfying all your physical needs without actually knocking her up that's the best of both worlds.
>2018
>getting married and having kids
enjoy your divorce, financial rape, and seeing your kids once a month while supporting your wife's bull, The game is fucking rigged, sure the jews caused it but women are stupid enough to ride that wave of feminism and exploting men having the legal support behind them. I don't want to have kids with a stupid roastie that get infuenced by social engineering.
>inb4 hurr just find a redpilled traditional value qt3.14.
yea right.
The best men can do is fuck bitches, never getting married, saving money, investing and retiring at 30-40yo. Early retirement is where it's at, not wagecucking until you die and breeding even more people into this shitty existance
Charles Harris
>Is MGTOW the most financially responsible decision?
I think it is, most normallosers just get a gf and get distracted by roastie mindgames and all other kinds of drama stuff and never manage to accumulate enough fiat in time to invest. they also have less time for DYOR.
of course it can also go the other way, that the roastie supports you and helps you but I think this is absolute minority tier.
Luke Walker
There's a 50% chance the parachute won't open.
Jump.
Anyone who says that MGTOW is part of some kind of race-destroying agenda obviously doesn't understand what's going on.
If it was strictly a breeding numbers game, you lost a looooooong time ago.
What's the use of breeding more spineless poor pincushions to suffer the grind if there is no collective will to even entertain the concept of fighting back. You want to fight back? Don't vote to keep things the way they are. Marriage is like a vote. You are saying that you agree to this insane matriarchy and extreme anti-male culture and family courts. By getting married, you become part of the problem. You are preventing the change we really need.
How do we get that change? By walking the fuck away, that's how.
Christopher Myers
>Anyone who says that MGTOW is part of some kind of race-destroying agenda obviously doesn't understand what's going on.
Basicly this, MGTOW is a symptom not the cause. If enough men go MGTOW and bitches + lawyers mafia don't have anyone to leech off of left maybe then things would change, but hey, we're on Jow Forums, everyone here is a 10/10 alpha male, successfull in every aspect of life so even extreme feminists throw themselves at them etc
Luis Sullivan
Checked!
Brody Jackson
>running away
>not using legal means to structure your assets apart from your persona
>not taking the effort to simply become immune to divorce
women ain't the only bitches here
It not a numbers game. Technology is replacing people. So you don't need numbers, you need people smart enough to not get subverted by ideologies harmfull to themself. Fuckers to dumb not to vote against their own best interests are the problem.
Cooper Hughes
Of course. Men should go their own way. Women should go their own way. People are garbage and relationships a giant waste of time.
Joseph Ortiz
>you need people smart enough to not get subverted by ideologies harmfull to themself. Fuckers to dumb not to vote against their own best interests are the problem.
My thoughts exactly.
Brandon Morales
>>not using legal means to structure your assets apart from your persona
>>not taking the effort to simply become immune to divorce
if you're starting the whole thing with taking sophisticated precautions then it means you don't trust the bitch from the start, why would you want to get married with someone you suspect of cheating from the start?
Wyatt Cook
Gabriel Powell
fear of being alone?
knowing you got married is worth more than the experience of sharing your life with the one you married?
figured no one else would?
the list is endless, society is the story of people doing fuckin retarded shit bruh
Jayden Lee
MGTOW is based
Xavier Howard
this
Josiah Anderson
based
>fear of being alone?
getting married won't solve that problem anyway sine the bitch and her lawyer orbiter will fuck you up before you even get to your 40s kek
If someone doesn't have genuine friends from childhood-highschool period then you probably will never make real friends as the adult life is all about materialism and quid pro quo
Ayden Flores
Family Courts are heavily biased in favor of women, meaning that in the case of a divorce (which every marriage has about at least 50% chance of) men get fucked.
Option A. Get together to get the laws changed to be fairer and/or in your favor.
Option B. Hang out with NEETs and create a philosophy of life called MGTOW which will leave you forever alone and childless.
Which option is the smarter move?
James Torres
Cause there's value in the relationship. It's no different to doing bussiness with another corporation. You form a partnership to get both benefits but you make sure your ass is safe from getting backstabbed. It's not a binary thing either. Most people are easily kept at bay with a simple lock while thieves will break it but if you leave the door open even the honest ones might be enticed to rob you.
Julian Baker
No thanks, Id rather enjoy my life than be a slave to some strands of DNA
On my deathbed Ill look back on all the fun and relaxation I had and laugh at the people who took the meme of existence seriously ;)
Gabriel Cook
I got myself into a relationship that any sane person would tell me to avoid like the plague. Here it is - I've been working back breaking hours in a humiliating, depressing environment just to send the majority of my earnings to a woman who I might never even see again anyways. Best financial decision of my life because I honestly would still be working 20 hour weeks in fast food if I never got so deep into this. I'm now a manager, something I never thought I could be. I'm probably cutting the relationship off now because she keeps telling me she needs help for longer and longer. But yeah
The part about being pushed to be a harder worker definitely has some value to it. I took on a completely cucked lifestyle but it turned out to be the only reason I'm a respectable person in society. And now that I'm cutting her off I just signed on the dotted line for a nice vehicle, a clean work truck, so I finally have something to show for my hard work over the past years, they're filling up the gas tank now so I can enjoy the rest of my night.
In the past I'd just work stupid schedules, occasionally got a wild hair up my ass to try to make money on the side, nothing ever really went anywhere. When I started helping her and pushed myself to work every hour my employers would give me, that was when I started becoming worth a fuck
Henry Butler
Good goy
Daniel Sanchez
Stop giving your money to Jews and live as a NEET
Levi Green
The thing is for the vast majority of cases I think alone is more sound. But the most successful men I know (multimillionaire business types) I’ve basically met their wives and they do SO much. Like the men have the vision and business plans and do all the deal making, but their wives are just 24/7 on top of everything. This in three cases, plus the wives are managing real estate properties etc and cooking dinner so not some degenerate office job types. They’re like housewives who just go above and beyond. But yeah they are a minority.
Bentley Scott
yeah congratulations, you became an adult
you must have had shitty parents or be retarded user
oh wait:
> a nice vehicle, a clean work truck, so I finally have something to show for my hard work over the past years
you really are a retard, guess your parents had no chance with you
Liam Hernandez
> yes goy, engage with the political system which we built and own and set all the standards for and make all the decisions in. Donate to politicians we already bought. Please be stupid enough to believe participation in the system is a useful activity. Whatever you do don't just fucking walk away and build new systems that aim to disintermediate our bought and paid for ones, that would utterly assfuck our power base
yeah nah think that's what we'll do actually.
Colton Reyes
Agree. The only different thing I say is have kids but overseas, preferably after you retire and ensure your money is hidden and offshore
Lincoln Hall
this, (((they))) want you to produce a weaker generation to control and manipulate. Why do you think porn is filled with interracial cuckold videos? It's pushed to the masses. And it's free - that in and of itself is revealing right there.
I suspect theres hundreds of thousands to maybe millions of videos out there suppressed by their algorithms because they just want to push the Black-bull-fucks-white-wife meme.
Luke Green
MGTOW lifestyle won't actively fuck over a man as a feminist lifestyle would a woman. If a man ignores women and focuses on bettering himself physically as well as acquiring wealth, he will be in a fantastic position in his early 30's. A woman on the other hand, would have probably succumbed to lots of debauchery, became incredibly unhealthy and feel the countdown happening in her ovaries.
There is strange behavior among anti-MGTOW in that they believe that MGTOW means getting a vasectomy. However, it's not that, it's just taking a break from women and working on improving yourself.
Joseph Young
what? I just bought an upgrade from mine that's busted up and been through over a decade of hell and broken into multiple times
I work 80 hours a week and my credit is good. I could've bought any vehicle I wanted. I bought a 2006 silverado work truck. Something that can make me more money as opposed to most people who buy status symbols that depreciate quickly
Adrian Cox
That's what I don't like about MGTOW. The term is too fluid and means anything you want it to be. Any dude can qualify as a MGTOW as long as he is not married or has a kid.
Lucas Nguyen
congrats bro, I'm proud of you
Liam Bennett
All of you pathetic losers bring shame to the ancestral spirits of Jow Forums.
You're supposed to repeatedly marry dying women for inheritance or marry rich women and then divorce them for profit.
Brody Richardson
Finally some business advice.
Angel Davis
We are hideous as it is, how the fuck would we ever achieve this?