You know, sometimes numbers don't lie.
Bitcoin Cash is constantly leading against Bitcoin in percentage gains. Each time Bitcoin moves up a percent in value, Bitcoin Cash bumps up 2-3%.
Is Bitcoin Cash an actual Crypto? I thought this was supposed to be a scam invented by Roger Jewface.
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Dubs and green ID confirm.
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Bitcoin Cash is one of the realest cryptos there is, son. Only the OG's are actually in BCH.
bitcoin cash's 0 conf system is not crypto, but the coin itself is, I don't know if its a scam, but definitely has been heavily shilled by chinese shill farms, I'm not sure if its for profit or an effort by the chinese state to hurt bitcoin. Doesn't matter. Its scaling solution does't work and isn't decentralized or trust less. Might as well use something like paypal or venmo.
Shut the fuck up fag. You dont know shit
yes
>he didn't buy at 1:10
>he didn't buy at 1:9
>he didn't buy at 1:8
you are here
It's an altcoin so yes it's more volatile. Says nothing of the quality of the coin
It's down more than bitcoin over the last 7 days, 24 hours and 1 hour...
At least you shills have evolved from your retarded "bitcoin CASH" threads though.
That shit was by far the most boring shilling of all the chinks and pajeets.
BCH and BTC are literally mined by the and set of people. There's no claiming one is decentralised and the other isn't.
0 conf can work as long as nodes all broadcast to one another and keep track of double spend attempts
This new tactic of "haha guys I'm with you btrash amiright? but the charts are looking good....." is pretty painfully obvious.
Bitcoin Cash is grossly unknown to be the #4 coin. Meanwhile Bitcoin (what you so desperately want to refer to as Bitcoin Core) may as well be synonymous with "cryptocurrency" as a whole which is why BCash boys want to steal the name so bad.
Make no mistake - Bitcoin is the only coin that matters and it's the one everybody already calls "Bitcoin"
The bitcoin name doesn't mean much. Sure, it's a "brand" but that brand was irreversibly ruined by the high fees and shitty developers. Tons of brand names eventually filed bankruptcy. Bitcoin is a historical, important piece of technology but so was the vacuum tube computer
It saddens me that you back a project that won't be around in 5 years.
The network cannot scale for real world adoption at this time of the technology. The closest project to real world adoption is Stellar and even they couldn't handle the load of mainstream adoption without Lightning.
The koolaid must be strong when you start believing Craig Wright is Satoshi.
I'm talking about 0 conf transactions, bitcoin cash is being developed with the intention of using 0 conf transactions to make it viable for use in point of sales transactions.
But you are ignoring malicious nodes and network congestion. 0 conf is only secure if you trust nodes to report double spend accurately, and miners can unconditionally guarantee they will include all transactions in the next block. The later is a huge if and likely impossible. The former relies on a private, trusted nodes. Bitcoin cash devs fully admit they are assuming retailers will use payment processing services provided from private services like BitPay or Coinbase (which is why coindbase heavily supports bitcoin cash).
This is a different route than blockstream with off chain solutions like lightning network which can provide fast transactions in a trustless, but still not necessarily distributed, environment.
>which can provide fast transactions in a trustless, but still not necessarily distributed, environment.
Nobody has solved the routing problem on lightning. The only way forward is hub and spoke networks. This is shit, utter shit. I assume miners will work to report double spends simply because it is beneficial to the network health. It is in their economic interest to stop double spends
Having a hub and spoke network, but still being trustless, is still infinity better than having to route all transactions through coinbase. bitcoin's 0 conf system is no more decentralized than paypal.
Even if all miners are honest, that doesn't mean they see all transactions, or receive them in the same order, there is no conscious on which transaction in a double spend is valid without a centralized server. The was bitcoin cash devs hand wave this issue away is by saying retailers will just use a payment processing service like bitpay/coinbase.
Check out doublespend.cash
go follow "influencers" on reddit you retard
it IS a scam and only trolls and rogers bitchcrew say otherwise.
hell you'll have rogers cuck suckers in this thread even with their cliche BITCOINCASH IS BITCOIN and other lies like SATOSHIS TRUE VERSION. Ignore all that crap and ignore the lies.
Hell i'll by btcc before I buy bitcoincash and his lil scam setup. Hope he gets murdered soon and all his lies and ripoffs go up in smoke
Agreed, cash will be king. The real btc.
Satoshi advocated 0 conf. Literal creator of crypto says you're wrong.
See pic related.
maybe you should finish grade school before talking about numbers, faggot?
It isn't trustless period. It is destroying the product and replacing it with the exact thing bitcoin was designed to destroy. They even admit it will end up looking like the banking correspondent network.
what do you think of chainlink?
Zero conf and decentralisation have literally nothing to do with each other. Forcing the network to not honor 0 conf by rbf is no more decentralised than agreeing to orphan blocks that don't honor 0 conf transactions. If anything, it's less, because forcing a second layer that is vastly more centralised than the first by not honoring instant pos transactions is another centralizing force.
Lightning is centralised sock puppetry. Szabo is wrong.
so is ETH, NEO, ENG, ADA, EOS, and hundreds of other coins. this bcash marketing approach is not effective, tellthe marketing team to develop some new material. also, only a cashie cultist would write thisOP. the cashie hive mind has a shilling style that can be spotted from orbit.
Bitcoin Cash is unironically the real Bitcoin. The real scammers are the ones running around stating bcore is anything like Bitcoin. Go read the whitepaper you moron.
Bcore should have died the moment the upgrade occurred (the Bitcoin Cash fork). This isn't the first time Bitcoin has forked, in fact Bitcoin has upgraded/forked successfully 2 more times since August 1st 2017.
0xbitcoin is the real bitcoin cash
Truth
Read the whitepaper people. BTC is not what the whitepaper describes.
Read Satoshi's emails and forum posts. They are not describing the BTC ideology.
Lightning is the opposite of Bitcoin. Lightning institutes a network 'similar to the banking system' as lightning devs have said.
Bitcoin was designed to replace the current banking network.
Satoshi was also CLEARLY in favor of large blocks and scaling Bitcoin on-chain, above and past Visa-level. Read his posts and data people - it works.
Bitcoin works.
Bitcoin BTC does not work.
Bitcoin BCH does work.
-2010 Bitcoiner
every time roger's cock suckers show up and spread more lies ITS SATOSHIS TRUE VISION!
Nah it's not
btcc is more in lines with satoshi's true vision as is bitcoin.
bitcoincash is a scam and will always be a scam no matter how much you go online and tell lies
nice, what's your opinion of chainlink?
dont be afraid to update that, turboshill
>Bcore should have died the moment the upgrade occurred
over 90% of the hashrate stayed with bitcoin you delusional cunts. That is called CONSENSUS.
>The real scammers are the ones running around stating bcore is anything like Bitcoin. Go read the whitepaper you moron.
bcash is objectively not the real bitcoin, you retard.
As always with coreons...
It's still accurate. The architecture of lightning guarantees it always will be, shit for brains. As for the miners, they are happy to see btc bleed out in the gutter. That's exactly what we want.
changing your diapers and making you tendies is a large teams full time job. doesnt mean that theres an actual team doing that, just ask your mom. while youre at it, ask her whats phrasing.
as always with roger cuck suckers and scammers
what do you think of chainlink
We insist you actually provide rational arguments or accept that your childish bullshit is illegitimate and you're just useful idiots or shills by definition? Yeah, how dare we.
>the and set of people
not the and set of people, it simply can't be.
>coinbase heavily supports bitcoin cash
baseless propaganda. zero evidence to back this claim up.
coindesk.com
Coinbase has recognised core as a failure for years now.
same
oh sorry did you say something.... didnt know roger let you fakecoin cash shills talk when it's blowjob time.
And yeah how dare you guys try to scam into something claim it's name and it's the "true" bitcoin and mislead people into buying fakecoincash on the bitcoin website and labeling bitcoin core.
yeah how dare you guys be called out for shitty scammy behavior and being fakes and shit people.
Oh well fire back with more denials and hurr satoshi's true vision even tho it's not. I need a couple chuckles
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it is not a scam and has the backing of all the people that made bitcoin what it is today
long story short:
+ group A wanted to scale Bitcoin off-chain
+ group B wanted to scale on-chain.
+ group A have control over who gets to merge code changes
+ group B were forced to fork into their own project
+ now we have two competing ideas of how to scale bitcoin
since group B preserves most of how bitcoin originally worked most of the old users now support it.
emergency difficulty adjustment keeps this Frankenstein Cash alive. Bitcoin Cash would have should have died at birth but thanks to a shady hack in the code. (not in Satoshi's whitepaper) the Frakencoin lives.... it's alive... it's alive.
pic related ... I'm too lazy to bother opening up gimp... ummm jus imagine that Roger Ver is sucking this monster's cock
When you realise you're in a competition with a competitor you can't possibly beat and it has every intention to rip your throat out, of course you're going to call it monstrous.
Doesn't matter. Won't stop it from killing you. This isn't the playground. Compete or be destroyed. We already know which one you chose.
bring it on ... I'll be waiting.
Of course you will, not like you have any other choice. Won't change the outcome though, enjoy your frozen bags of shit.
>frozen bags of shit
yes, OMG I am scared, someone should hack the code and turn down the difficulty adjustment before it's too late...
>4. ...
come on shillfrend... what is the dot dot dot? this article calls this PWC out yet doesn't give up the goods? your shit content sucks turboshill.
> someone should hack the code and turn down the difficulty adjustment before it's too late...
Please don't. I'd rather just see your shitcoin suffer its long and well deserved death.
Watching a tennis match on TV has no influence on its outcome, your "full node" nonsense is exactly that. When miners abandon the chain, no new blocks will be minted, end of story.
Real "full nodes" mine, your "full node" is just a shitty archival / relaying node that serves zero purpose whatsoever.
I dont give a shit and I have both of them. Real estate is the only way to get rich. Keep fighting for the king of shitcoins position no matter which one win Im still rich as fuck tks to those memes haha
full nodes are the Chair Umpire in your game of tennis. keep spreading lies turboshill
>constantly leading
BCHBTC ratio has been almost constantly on decline and when it rises it makes lower highs.
Nice shill tho bra.
Oh yeah? Take your full node and change the code to blacklist an address. According to your analogy, that should mean that nobody would dare submit blocks with that address, because your full node would dutifully police them.
In actual fact your change will have zero effect, because nobody gives a fuck what you think, and rightly so, because you're a waste of fucking oxygen, a load that should've been swallowed, a brainless halfwit whose greatest contribution to the space is a terrible example for other people who might otherwise be encouraged by propaganda to follow your idiotic example, etc.
Damn those bcash shiller seems like there is always someone triggering them from the back.
Calm down anons y need to chill oit a little bit ok. I dont want people to think all bcash holer is 12 years old kids.
All what I ever wanted is to dumb my bags at 300% roi that all.
We are in this together mah frens keep it up.
relax, pajeet, the lunch brake is just around the corner. remember, this is just a job, stop taking it so personally.
anyways, if 1 miner alone changed the rules, he will be left alone on his own fork, just like a full node with his own code would. thats whats called a network with a consensus algorithm. so according to you, mining nodes are just as useless as archival ones and youre actually right (by accident). they are just as useless, or better yet, usefull and just as important.
I can run a BCH node just fine. WTF is everyone going on about?
kys
>flippening on the 15th of may
say the cultists 1000x until...
>nothing happens
>shift goalposts
the absolute state of the bcash cult
Its exactly the same as BTC and is mined by the same people... only difference is it will actually scale and can be used as cash
you cash freaks keep twisting the definition of cash to fit your agenda. If I buy a $500,000 house payed for with cash do you actually think that I'm giving the real estate agent a suitcase filled with $100 bills? no you fucking idiot. I'm writing a check... a check that takes 7-10 business days to clear my bank. this is where and how bitcoin comes in... it is considerably faster to settle than checks... even bank "certified" checks take 3-5 business days to clear... bitcoin is faster than that. Changing the definition of cash doesn't make bcash any less of a shitcoin. But, using your definition we should call it Bitcoin Change. As in pocket change because bcash is pretty much building their shitcoin empire on the properties of pocket change.
fuck off roger
stale pasta pajeet, also payed is spelled 'paid'
kill yoursellf.
I know for you it's just a job, worthless shill cunt. But for me I've been in this space since 2011 and I watched core cunts sabotage and hijack the best chance this world has got global economic freedom and turn it into a shit tier absolutely useless science project diametrically opposed to the original vision. I'm fucking angry at it and I'm not going to let it slide until I have all your fucking heads on metaphorical pikes for the shit you pulled.
A miner changing that one variable would indeed also fork himself off the network. But there would actually be a new chain consisting of the blocks he made, and anybody agreed with him would be on it too. By contrast all the ignorant cunt coretard non mining "full nodes" in the world would never emit a single valid block, and their chain would not exist at all, and nobody else would give a fuck except for noticing the amount of mewling quims whining about absolutely irrelevant utter bullshit had just decreased enormously.
Roger please.
I.m flattered that you think my writing is a copy pasta... I posted the original fuckface. the user replayed with counter fitting or some dick garbage like that.
>paid
literally the only spelling nazi I've ever seen on this board... and... you have to go back
Are you fucking braindead?
>Small sizes of cash are not cash
The absolute state of corecucks
You're posting your own pasta. I guess it's not pasta then you dumb corecuck
nice try... you know that's not what I said at all.. on second thought, maybe you don't... and you really are retarded or something.
>shill tactics
never said that it was a pasta... you did.
neither of you have contributed anything intelligent or useful... you keep spreading misinformation and blatant lies. the term "cash" is not some magical phenomenon, and it's nothing new. Satoshi's whitepaper is not a bullshit shield either. The word "cash" in Satoshi's whitepaper does not mean the pocket change theory you halfwit bcash trash claim that it does... ready money is not pocket change. Furthermore, in addition to misrepresenting the whitepaper you have completely ignored it... the emergency difficulty adjustment even blatantly goes against the whitepaper... yet you misinformation professionals fail to disclose this little piece of information during your smear campaign. Even going so far as to hide behind the whitepaper to subterfuge your scam airdropped hyper-premined shitcoin.
BCH needed to alter the DAA to survive given the hijacking and social propaganda campaign of fuckheads like you, BTC massively diverged from the original plan by restricting on chain throughput to 13.33kbps forever, both are not the exact original plan for the product, but BCH is a damned sight than your hijacked piece of useless shit and you should kill yourself for being stupid enough to fall for it.
LOOOOOOOOOOOL
Any of the bigger BTC miners could easily do a 51% attack on BCH.
>posting a 1 year old tweet
what did blockstream shills mean by this?
jasonc.me
0-conf does not work.
holy shit, cashies are truly retards.
wow, what a rebuttal. typical low IQ cashie cultist
yup, same as this guy's rebutal.
Cashies can't have logical arguments without using logical fallacies
protip: cashies are simply shills or poor souls trapped in the Satoshi vision narrative.
>BCH needed to alter the DAA to survive given the hijacking and social propaganda campaign of fuckheads like you,
this is not a technical excuse. Basically, without the difficulty hack the cash fork would have died. They however, probably knew that it would die... just like Bitcoin Classic, Clashic, XT and Unlimited. All failed attempts at co-opting bitcoin. All learning experiences.
what a good day for this guy to put this video out.
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Something technically is impossible, but desired by a specific groups, and is possible with a particular change, and making that change is "not a technical excuse".
Got it, so basically software should only ever change in ways that do not completely ass rape your retarded fucking argument.
Neck yourself.
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>this is not a technical excuse. Basically, without the difficulty hack the cash fork would have died.
Because this is exactly how it should be, satoshi coded it that way so bullshit forks cannot survive and then get a PR guy to claim their altcoin is "the real bitcoin".
>LN is so centralized but im ok with my shitcoin being under the control of a Chinese goverment employee
which part of "the people who mine BTC and BCH are the same set of people" is too complicated for your pipsqueak brain to understand?
He coded it that way so contentious forks that were willing to resolve on purely exclusive criteria would do so. This is not one of those forks, which is why Jihan said BCH is a different thing to BTC.
The fact it also just happens to mean that in the long term, BCH might destroy BTC by stealing all its miners, is actually a fatal bug in BTC by any measure, imagine if that hadn't been caught before some government agency found it and pulled the exact same trick with an infinitely inflationary currency / reimplementation of the present fiat system on a blockchain and said "Now this is Bitcoin, and we'll pay our miners way more than anyone else can afford, which will kill the real Bitcoin".
That would actually have destroyed the original chain, but it will accomplish nothing regarding BCH now that bug has been fixed in BCH.
How are corecucks so blind? Literally all news for bch is bullish. Corecucks can't even solve the routing problem for their network
The kool-aid is stronger when you place the future of Bitcoin in the hands of a toothless literal Bible thumper and a roastie.
OMG, are you trying to make my brain bleed from your stupidity?! You have no idea what happened since Blockstream took over. Not at all. They did anything in their power to have absolute control over BTC's roadmap through their control over the repository. They slowly changed the BTC model so it'll use a 2nd layer. When the scaling started to become a real issue and to allow for the LN they avoided hardforking to keep control over the majority chain by softforking in a half assed way which will squeeze for them more tx's per block in a way which will gain them time until the LN is ready.
Again, BTC has the majority of the hashpower because they SOFTforked instead of HARDforking as was supposed to be.
>sudo wannbe techno babble
you don't even understand your own shill.
Anyways... No. you failed to present an argument as why bch lowered the difficulty adjusting algo.
>muh sabotage
>muh hijacking
>muh propaganda
More like fantasy and conspiracy theory, not legitimate reasons. Face it bch is the sabotage. bch is the hijacking and bch is the propaganda.
Newfags get the gas. 0-conf is literally the only way to make bitcoin a currency for daily purchases.
Etherum doesn't come close either. Its just everyone knows "bitcoin" in their heads because that's all they've ever heard.