Who would've thought that the language of some inbred farmer plebeians in a sterile depressing island would become the...

Who would've thought that the language of some inbred farmer plebeians in a sterile depressing island would become the most studied language just in a few centuries?
What went wrong?

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:-)

>the danelaw
my ancestors (-:

:-(

No one would have expected a modest hut in the far off and humble hills of desolate Mongolia would spawn a man whose footsteps would tread wrath on all the world.

You of all people should know to make room for the unexpected.

English originated with the Anglo-Saxons, who were hardly "inbred farmer plebeians".

French was the language of the nobility while english was the language of the poor
you can still see the divide between the anglo words and the french words in the english language, it sounds way more classy to "purchase" something than to "buy" it, and of course the english used the word "pig" and "cow" while the norman nobility that got to eat meat often called it "pork" and "beef"

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>French was the language of the nobility while english was the language of the poor
Only after the Norman invasion.

true
whats the earliest form of english that got written down? im curious for the early history of the language

Not sure. I think Beowulf is quite early. I've also read that very early English was written in runic script.

Yeah, if I were raised in a dungeon and never seen the world but had history books and stuff, I'd definitely guess French to be the world language. And German would be second guess but here we are using English atm.

>tfw celt
>tfw told the danelaw and the anglos to fuck off

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The earliest example is probably the Undley Bracteate, although it's written in runes, is very short and was almost certainly made by Angles who brought it to England.

they are cringe and bluepilled mutts

Not really.

>being mad about British supremacy
Lmao.

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everything that is worth anything in English linguistically is a greek/latin mix grill.

Our vocabulary is about a third French, a third Latin, and a third Germanic. I think Greek words are a small proportion of our overall vocabulary.

yeah but in real everyday use most of the words used as germanic afaik, and the structure is germanic

England and Italy have the most interesting history, to me.
The Angles were the ones from around Holland and they were the only tribe to completely uproot and move to the island. Saxons kept clay on Europe.

One Roman historian noted one Anglo-saxon tribe was at war with the Romans and 5 other Anglo-Saxon tribes simultaneously. That shit is why they’re so regionalist; it was Norf FC or die goddamnit

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The most common English words are Germanic in origin. I think 90 of the most 100 common words are Germanic; the more sophisticated words are romantic.
Basic everyday things like house, is/was, butter, shovel, etc. will have the oldest roots, but as they learned science and other shit they needed to borrow Latin and Greek terms.

Short simple words are usually of German origin. Slightly longer and more sophisticated language is usually of French origin.

E.g. short words like "I", "have", "and", "book", "word" are all Germanic.

Then words like "language", "president", "sublime", "apparent", etc. are French.

Norferners can fuck off.

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>One Roman historian noted one Anglo-saxon tribe was at war with the Romans and 5 other Anglo-Saxon tribes simultaneously.
>implying this didnt happen throughout all of europe
the gallia, hispania and germania had constant wars between the different tribes, they weren't "countries" at all

based

I believe you but I’m sure as soon as you were under Roman control it wasn’t like that.

Soft southern poofs

Soft yank poof.

Back in the day, they just had different (related) dialects between the tribes. I don’t think an Oxford historian could give a good answer to that because even today they have strong dialects with regional words. I’ve been all around England, and it’s my first language, and I couldn’t understand the people in different cities.
t. Mom did an MA English and I grew up with a bunch of books on Britain around the house

>I’ve been all around England, and it’s my first language, and I couldn’t understand the people in different cities.
LMAO. Typical yank.

I've always lived in the South but I can easily understand accents from other parts of Britain, even thick Glaswegian accents, which are probably the most challenging (especially for Americans, I would expect). I guess it's because I've been exposed to them on TV all my life. But even if I hadn't been I reckon I'd be able to understand them, it's still the same bloody language.

Which parts of England have you been to?

Angles were from the middle of the Jutland peninsula, your thinking about the Frisians

I could understand them, but it would take me at least 2 days to decipher the local accent. There was lots of asking people to repeat themselves twice.

London, Dover, Bath, Stratford upon Avon, York, Leeds, Went to Swansea and Edinburgh, and some towns around the scottish border.

Honestly felt embarassed having to ask the hotel clerk to repeat himself so much. Didn't have any trouble understand people in Bath or Dover though

Is this the /anglish/ thread, brethren?

Also when I was in edinburgh, these guys my age came up to me and started talking really fast. After about a minute I understood they wanted a cigarette, and if I gave them one, they would let me hit their joint. Fair enough, they asked me about my state and we walked into an alley to toke.
Eventually I had to get some food and beer and I couldn't understand them so I left. THey were from Glasgow, they might as well have been speaking Swedish

ignore that lad, there are many thick accents here that people struggle to understand

you say you visited leeds and if you spoke to some of the older generation with thick westie accents they can be hard to understand for those accustomed to hearing it
t. north yorkshire living in west yorkshire