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Is there an easy way to tell the pitch accent just by the word itself?

>speaking
lol

what is it with americans and those fucking pitch accent questions

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I’m not the first?

why would anyone want to post there anymore, jamal fucked it completely

no and no, I don't think there's some easy way

anyway, there is some (japanese?) website where you can enter japanese words and it illustrates with some line the intonation, but I don't know how to find it right now
maybe someone else can give a link, you could play around a bit there

Is there any way to tell English word stress by just the word itself?

I'm trying to order some items from JP amazon and I'm getting this message on one of them "お届け予定日がわかり次第別途Eメールにてお知らせします。キャンセルをご希望の場合は、注文履歴からキャンセル方法についてご確認ください"
My understanding is that the item is not currently available(?) but they will email me once it is with a shipping date.

My question is: what is going to happen to my order? Is it going to be two separate packages, as i have ordered some available items too . Would it be cheaper to wait to save on shipping? as I might get charged more for two "separate" orders?

Thanks for any help

おやすみ
スレはよろしく頼む

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Gonna be travelling to japan in about 2 months and I have absolutely no knowledge of the language
What's the most useful way that I can study until then? I wanna be efficient

I've been getting overwhelmed by my anki reviews lately.
Are there any methods I could do to improve my true retention rate?
I'm sitting at 64~% true retention rate for the week ,and the month.
I'm using the 2k/6k deck.

how many new words are you doing? I do 20(mixture of decks though) and sit between 88-94 with average of 91 here is what i do.

Step1: Set reviews to reset 1-2 hours before bed time
step 2: do reviews
step 3: after you wake up tomorrow do a custom study using the "Review forgotten cards" and set it to 1 day.

Using this method I manage to make most of my weak cards stick pretty quickly.

Also yeah, at least 1-2 hours of reading a day.

I used to do 20 a day, but reduced it to 10 a day, 3 days ago.
Thanks I'll try your custom study method.

>tfw can do 400 Anki reviews in 20 min with 93% true retention
Feels good to be high iq

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>posts wojack
>claiming to be high IQ
loving every laugh

Buy a phrase book. You can't learn anything practical in two months.

In two months the most you'll be able to do is learn phrases. Watch some YouTube bloggers showing examples of what you need to do or say to get around.

I'd learn kana as well despite your phrase book probably being in romaji.

Know the signs.

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I had the same problem, took a week off and did 0 new words, now it's smooth sailing again

What?
Also pitch changes depending on the words in-between. Tough luck

(´∀`∩)↑アゲ↑

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Does anyone has any idea what do they mean in the second question? The text they are referring to is below.

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I think the answer is 東京のような、世界によく知られている.
The 連体修飾語 being used to describe 都市.

そうまとめ?
The font looks simliar

湯たんぽ

今は良いものがあります
お湯より火傷の危険が少ない
でも低温やけどの危険は必然ですので注意しましょう

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Thanks for the answer, but I still not quite get what was the question. Point which part of the sentence is being used to describe 都市? Why was "to modify" verb included and even translated in the text?
It's Tobira

>It's Tobira
とびらはどうですか
そうまとめはあまり好きじゃない

It's the second question of the first chapter and I already have no idea what they want for me. You could say I don't like it very much so far.

Because the question is written in Japanese and 修飾 is the normal word to use for that in Japanese, but it's a grammatical term that you wouldn't be able to answer the question without knowing.

It's asking which part of the second line (from where to where) modifies the word. 'Classify' or 'qualify' are more fitting words than 'modify' in this context. The cities are known. The cities are known to the world. So on. Specifically where does the qualification begin and end?

What level is it?

Thanks user, now finally fucking get it.
It's intermediate. Someone recommended it to get into after Genki.

そのかわりに猫はどう

this is the oldest thread on int right now

いいえ、 ミルクトラックスレドはまだ生きている

ミルクバンプ

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おねがいコワいかびくりかトキおぼてうれしトキけしてわすれなで

くらい日いつもうれし日おぼてね

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ごちそうさま

I am sorry I am not sure either, but as it is indicated that shipping fee is to be charged for every single shipment on their table, it's likely to be that they charge two separate shipment fees for your order. So it'd be 1100yen cheaper to wait until all items are ready to be shipped, if you could tell them you'd like to do so.
>what did they say in the quotation?

And just out of my curiosity, could I ask what did you order from amazon JAPAN?

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Is there a discord server where we can practice speaking with one another?

I live in Tokyo, if you want we can hang out and I can help you out

What's wit the manga download links on itazuraneko? They just redirect you to homepage

Actually all MEGA links redirect to homepage

check the links carefully against a normal mega link, then use your head a little

Ah I see. What's up with that? Can't have a normal link?

the originator was inherently cautious about hosting pirated material, a wise attitude no

Got it. Thanks!

Some people here put a ridiculous emphasis on Anki stats as if they have anything to do with actual language learning. I'm pretty good at remembering a huge portion of vocab from anki cards but I'll still struggle if i see it in a sentence, the same goes for some the other way round.

Anki retention rate is not really a measure of your improvement in the language and I wouldn't overthink optimizing for it too much. If you're not bothered by a large number of reviews per day it doesn't really matter I'd say.

Even if I fail some shitty card for the 20th time at least I've seen it again and it'll help down the road (especially true for some readings of kanji i keep forgetting each time)

I just turned auto suspension back on. As far as I'm concerned Anki is best when it comes to vocabulary exposure. There have been words I've failed, but I see or hear them in real application and recognize them properly.

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頑張る

This is something some people need to wrap their heads around more. It's easy to get presented with the numbers from Anki and fall for the trap of optimizing for them. And it sure feels good to see higher numbers on there cause it seems like a more tangible success in your learning.

However in the end this can be misleading for how it actually translates to language ability in a couple of ways. This is why i tell people to be cautious with how to interpret their Anki results and especially if they feel bad for not having a 90%+ rate on there. That's not even the point of a SRS, giving you the right amount of exposure for something to eventually stick is.

I was going to read this with both subs but I don't think I can
It bothers me too much

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she looks so nerdy

眼鏡派じゃないか(・∀・;)

better to keep it in japanese and only switch if you don't get whats going on at all if thats possible there.

おやすみ

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I would if it didn't take me 10 times longer to finish that way
I'm mostly reading this to relax anyway

おはよございます!
仕事へ行く!

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Unless you can toggle the english on/off, that would really defeat the point of having the original 日本語 text for me

頑張って!

You can toggle it quite easily, but as I said not really reading it to learn anyway
I have picked up a few words for my mining deck though

ドラゴンディルド

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Save me from this torment

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you only have yourself to blame until you disable english text.

The more I have non-Japanese coworker in my work place, the more I come to think you need not learn our language, at least as long as you live in Japan, as we use broken English for them and they seem spending really comfotable life without speaking Japanese.

And the immigrant policy which our gov is going to make it in effect from next Apr WILL give us a myriad of Chinese neighbour so we'll have no option other than learning Chinese for some extent as well. OK, it's just a piece of cake. Just adding another pronunciation to Kanjis.

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True. And the fact that pushing the retention rate higher has diminishing returns (a lot easier to go from 75-80% retention than 90-95%)
In real life, you won't encounter words out of context like you would in Anki. The goal of Anki should be "familiarity with the word to recognize it in context".
That's what I personally use the "hard" button for; if I fail a rep but am reasonably confident that I would have recognized the word in context, I can't treat it as a full success, but I really don't need to study it more that day.

I can't enjoy japanese memes without japanese
What's the policy about

Who cares about all that, I just want to read my eroge in peace

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可愛い狸

Why would anyone wanna learn japanese

Because your language is trash

>What's the policy about
They are passing the bill which legitimate 40k immigrants, and their family as well, per one year and letting them aquire permanent residency reportedly.
Would you register yourself on it as well?
It has already passed about a decade since eroges were known for Euro for the first time, maybe. Haven't anybody there come up with making your own?

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Sure, what do I get for having it
>European eroge
I don't want to look, there's probably a few but they're guaranteed to be garbage with shit art

Western "eroge" does exist, it's just all terrible. Japan just has a talent for perverted stuff I guess.

>what do I get for having it
...maybe they would make a large signboard in front of the Japanese embassy there next April.
>Eroge
Nobody is born with the mastery of eroge, just exert yourself for it for decades.

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I mean what will I gain from having japanese citizenship, what are the advantages over just being バカ外人

You will no longer need not to pay exorbitant shipment fee to Amazon JP and would have decent used game stores in your neighborhood.
Other than that nothing will change.
>and cheap alcohols as well?

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And you'd not seem バカ外人 as long as you are withholding yourself from speaking in Japanese and use only English.

Cheap alcohols that are in such a small bottles they can't get a 7 year old drunk.

ちわっす、バカ外人です

Thanks to strong carbo and lemon, they practically taste as pure water, so you can finish a can within 2 second, which is equivalent to 40ml of pure alcohol, and cost 130 yen or less.
おっ、いいですねー

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あたくしがちょこの景気が大好きだああああああああぁぁぁぁぁぁぁぁぁぁぁぁぁぁぁぁぁぁぁぁ

>if I fail a rep but am reasonably confident that I would have recognized the word in context, I can't treat it as a full success

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>hard

Jesus Christ dude just throw that deck away

How is 200 ml can with 12% alcohol equal to 40ml of pure alcohol?

That pic is 500ml, the price of which is 165yen (60alc). And they have 350ml, 130 yen and 42alc for you as well.

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>がちょこの景気
ちょっと難しいぞ…

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糞色ケーキ

きたない言葉を使ってはいけませんよ
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多重影分身の術

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go to Dogen's patreon, he has a whole series on pitch accent that explains everything you have to know.
Anyway there are no strict rules that allow you to reliably predict a word's pitch, but there are some common patterns, like four mora words composed by two kanji are very very often heiban, and compound words are basically always nakadaka with the downstep happening either on the first mora of the second component or where it would have normally happened.
Verbs of a certain pitch accent family also tend to mutate across conjugations in a regular fashion.
gavo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/ojad/phrasing/index here you can input words and get their patterns.
this said, the plan to get good at pitch accent isn't to look up and memorize patterns for every last word you come upon, that's impractical. ideally you should become good enough at recognizing patterns that when you do hear a word and learn it, you learn its proper pitch accent too.

What's the pitch pattern of おはようございます

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downstep on ま

Wrong, you can say it however the fuck you want