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Does anyone else think it is suspicious that the main reason given to have a growing population is to maintain massive public spending via taxes?
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That's not the main reason. The main reason is that inflating demand via a constantly growing population is a reliable way of creating economic growth, this is why all the western countries are so dead set on importing thirdworlders. Sure, the natives bitch and moan but if they stop then their corporate backers will start taking hits to their profits so the flood continues.
Well darn that is somehow more depressing.
wew not even SEA can keep up and pumping out babies was like our #1 skill
what makes me think Europe is fucked is that even Vietnam with tons of pro-family fertility promotion and a strong nationalist still only has a birth rate of like 1.8
and don't even get started on China which has an abysmal birth rate combined with a future elderly population so massive it might cripple the nation
>maintain
What is wrong with poo decline though?
Fillipinos are still doing their bit, its only thai and singapore that's gone down.
Capitalism is destroying everything
because of religion
same for Africa
east Asians don't care about these things and thus have abysmal birth rates
depressing to think that Asia is going to be out-Asia'd by Africa
at least we aren't sitting direct across a small pond from them lol
Fuck off. We're full.
>all the stupid shithole populations are breeding like rats
>Europe and East Asia are barely having kids at all
Great, just fucking great.
>we don't need babies, it's bad for the environment
>we don't need babies, automatisation will provide for everyone
>why aren't there enough babies, we need to import third worlders
>why aren't there enough babies, we'll need everyone to slave out until they die
This experiment has gone on for far too long
The neoliberal capitalist pyramid scheme demands it
thing is Asia and Europe had big populations because they are covered in beautiful arable land meanwhile Africa has FAR less
the gigantic growth rates in Africa are sustained by American and European produce, and recently Chinese as well.
>15 years ago
>People were shitting themselves because of overpopulation
>Trying to find ways to stop it
>Now this today
GEE Its almost like we actually have too high of a population and now we're just reaching equilibrium
Africa doesn't have the facility to support their growing population.
In fact, not a single country can sustain such a growth.
So it's going to be pretty amusing, when there aren't enough schools, roads, jobs, hospitals, farms and what not.
Panic propaganda.
>stop breeding so much! the world is overpopulated!
>oy vey! birthrates are in free fall, how will the economy fare?
when will they make up their minds
what WILL happen, or rather what is currently happening and will continue into the future is massive migrations of populations from areas that are simply unable to sustain them.
Europe has tons of arable land and is more than capable of feeding Africa with its massive production, more than that the Mediterranean is not as big as it once once meaning huge numbers of people are pouring in to settle in the slowly emptying European lands.
this happened when the overgrown population of north/east Europe suddenly expanded into the rich farming lands of Western/Southern Europe in the first millennium, and it is happening now.
there will be massive deaths in Africa of course as things progress, but even more increasingly desperate people moving North and willing to use force if necessary
The black cock will come for us all, there's no hope
Dumbest comment in the section, NATO armies and their mercenary friends are still wiping them ...
So yeah plenty of room still
Yep. This is 100% the reason.
who fights in these armies?
there are long-term manpower shortages in many countries of Europe and east asia
What are you talking about?
let us depopulate for the love of god
you can shoot me in the back of the head at 70 just don't turn my home into a brown shithole like other places in the country
All kind of people, I mean when it comes to french armies, you have many expats from all over the world waiting to get citizenship, french men that didn't liked school ...
Geopolitical interests (banking, uranium, gold, diamond etc ...)
maybe for France but I know many countries have manpower issues both in number and quality
Basado
MONEY MONEY MONEY
China has a 1.6-1.7 fertility rate and isn’t poor as dirt like Vietnam
They are already importing immigrants (filipino bvlls) as we speak
Good thing they have legs
The article is actually very rational
>falling birth rates are generally a sign of development and women rights
>4.7 per woman is too high
>1.5 per woman is too low
>but less is better than more in a world with a suffering environment and lack of resources
>since people live longer now, and there are more retireeea, get ready to work longer for retirement
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Just pay people more and they’d join up
China's fertility rate will continue to spiral down to level of Taiwan and Singapore.
Predict when it goes below replacement
Flips couldn't handle East Asian autism really.
They'd rather get abused by Arabs than handle E. Asian work ethic. Lazy Catholics and all.
Europe had a population explosion in the 19th century, Asia in the 20th. Then it levelled off. Africa and India will follow soon.
China's fertility rate is much lower than that
in 2000 it was 1.3
now as of 2017 they have the lowest fertility rate in the world with just 1.05 followed closely by Taiwan
China being wealthier is at its own disadvantage because it means the citizens expect greater things and are less willing to have babies, more than that China is not wealthy enough as Japan is to "weather the storm" through slow economic contraction
These numbers are super suspicious considering China has the same raw birthrate as the USA with the same median age.
Remember that Chinese authorities are/were ranked on their ability to maintain the 1 child policy.
Yet this happens
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India will probably start to level off soon, but Africa has a long time to go on this.
Honestly that should be the focus of western aid from now on. No country should have above 3 children per woman. Preferably less than 2 aswell.
It would solve so many of our immidiate climate/resource problems if we were just 1 or 2 billion people fewer.
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china has been below replacement since 1990
straitstimes.com
I just don't understand why this is a bad thing. Most of my life people freaked out over overpopulation. Now it seems global population growth is down and the same people are freaking out.
problem is that living standards will plummet everywhere, and that there are too many old people combined with too few younger people to support them all.
it is worse in Asia where the expectation to support parents is much stronger, thus one person might be supporting a large number of elderly
The problem isn't with the amount of people, it's with the management of resources
cnn.com
Says 1.6 here
Source is the Chinese government
>resource shortages and climate change are bad
Stupid short term moron. If everything's good, we're never getting off this planet. Climate change is fucking perfect for prompting space colonization, it must keep going.
Faroe Islands are the only country with above replacement births (2,6) in europe.
Nowhere does the article say 1990.
A simple calculation of 17.23 / # of childbearing women = 1.56 in 2017
Wikipedia agrees
en.m.wikipedia.org
Chinese officials are promoted based on lower birthrates. Do you trust their stats?
>Source is the Chinese government
official rate from the Chinese government is 1.05
China marks"fertility desire" as 1.6 but that's not the same thing
Oh no! We might have to suffer for a generation or two! We can't have that!
No they wont because the countries aren't developing and Africa is a blackhole of western money. As long as people keep donating food and medicine to Africa, their population will continue growing.
you say this but people are unwilling to accept it in any case
they would rather vote for more short term measures than suffer in the short term for long term stability
Chinks will just turn the old people into dogfood or something like that.
No the timing is way off. We need other serious self-sustaining colonies, preferably in other solar systems as well, before we can truly say fuck what happens to the earth. We need it running for ATLEAST the next 500-1000 years.
Space exploration is still completely dependent on the global economy, which is completely dependent on our functioning climate and natural resources.
there is intense respect for elderly in Asia that Europeans don't understand
also China has to deal with their own version of baby boomers except these are 100x worse than even the American ones.
kill everyone now
I wish some MED BVLLS came here to impregnate our women and drive up our birth rates...
the low income elderly will just roam around the streets, selling garbage like the do south korea, hong kong. The young will keep earning shekels
The NBS and Family Planning commission report different numbers. NBS states that it only surveys urban families though.
Once again, do the math.
China and USA have same median age, and the same raw birthrate. Yet the USA has 1.7 fertility and China only 1.05?
en.m.wikipedia.org
China actually has a higher raw birthrate, but it is slightly younger overall so the Total Fertility Rate is slightly lower at 1.6-1.7
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My main point is that the tfr will continue to crash down because of urbanization and economic collapse in Northeast china.
Please, a bunch of cretins on rafts couldn't beat the military of Bhutan. The only way they can come is if Germans keep stuffing them up their assholes
and we will continue, because aren't nations anymore but systems that run on human cattle: work, consume, retire and leave the spot for the the new wave of cattle
military is good but not forever
note that Roman military in the West and East was incredibly strong, but as the pool of quality recruits diminished so did their ability to defend.
Byzantine solved this by developing a very modern mobility doctrine which greatly diminished casualties while also maximizing damage, yet even this was not enough to counter political squabbles.
likewise European military is hampered by democratic process meaning that politics trumps raw power.
>maintain their populations
Guarantee this article was made by some boomer who's worried the younger generation won't take care of him or her when they're retired.
Fuck old people. Let em die.
>note that Roman military in the West and East was incredibly strong, but as the pool of quality recruits diminished so did their ability to defend.
Ever heard of a drone? OR a machine gun? You have no idea what you're talking about, you're indulgent in drawing your dumb analogies to the point of delusion.
>likewise European military is hampered by democratic process meaning that politics trumps raw power.
Thats still not an issue of migrant military force, which is irrelevant and will stay that way, numbnuts, geez. But muh Rome, muh analogies.
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niger is clearly richer then most of the west if they can afford this many kids per family , most in the west can barely afford 2
This is me, Mr. chung wi “Nguyen” leow caõ feng
Meanwhile in Vietnam...
>get ready to work longer for retirement
Or I could just kms but thanks society.
solution is right there
The bad things will happen in 20-40 years when half of the population in countries are 60+ and demand pensions and medical care and other things old people need. Who is there to pay when 50% of your country's population is too old to work and demand the same living standards?
What will happen to democracy in countries when over 40% of the voters are retired and not working? There will be a massive political block demanding higher and higher pensions while the amount of working age people is decreasing
Indeed, actually the pic posted here comes from a reddit user that got the provincial data from the Chinese 2010 census (which is wrong for the reasons you have already lay out), and the rest of the countries data is from 2015-2016 which makes the comparison even more pointless
The funny thing is that his actual source for China is a research paper about the incongruencies in measuring fertility in China but nevertheless he still decided to go with the census data
Soon
Replace red text with "Radiation equality for nips"
Because it looks bad
But if you actually look at the number born (17+ million annually) it is completely at odds with the census number.
The USA with 320 million people had 3.8 million babies last year and a TFR of 1.72.
3.8/320 = .012
China is 17.3/1,390 = .0124
So how is the TFR 1.05 in China?
Why? Because Chinese officials underreport births to get promoted.
Case closed
wh*Te race will die out in our lifetime.
Thank ALLAH my childiren will grow up in a world without crackers
Okay so here is the answer
India legalized gay marriage not so long ago and feminism is being imported there. Their fertility rates should start dropping soon
They die unloved in care homes served by poorly paid third world labourers that don't give a shit about them.
If we're too numb and comfortable to change then we deserve everything we get.
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Kids and marriage put chains on you. Yes yes goyim keep reproducing we need more corparate slaves, soldiers and prostitutes.
Pretty much. The entire welfare state is a ponzi scheme where the current generations pay for the elderly in hopes of the next generation paying for their shit. The problem is that disconnects the ancient economic tie between parents and children (in ye olden days, having children in and of itself was a form of retirement planning) therefore the elderly become MORE dependent on the younger generations but LESS likely to have a lot of children.
Abolishing the welfare state not only solve the problem of excessive government spending but paradoxically enough also solves the fertility problem. Roll the government back. To roll the government back, we need to disenfranchise those who vote for bigger governments (third worlders, nu-males, women).
>Africa doesn't have the facility to support their growing population.
Oh gee, what a horrible conundrum! I mean, this must be the first time in human history that a certain part of the world had a higher population that it can sustain. Whatever shall they do?
Let me tell you what they'll do: the exact same fucking thing humans have been doing for generations. If you run out of stuff, you walk over to someone else and take his stuff. If he's too weak to defend his stuff, too bad for you. If he opens the door for you, gives you all of his stuff for free and then invites you to fuck his wife and daughter at the same time, why the fuck not?
Africans will rule the world because Europeans are handing it to them on a silver platter.
>So it's going to be pretty amusing, when there aren't enough schools, roads, jobs, hospitals, farms and what not.
There's always enough of it elsewhere, don't you worry your little head about that.
The bismarkian welfare state was established purely to prevent communism from growing you idiot. Many would welcome its demise.
>The bismarkian welfare state was established purely to prevent communism from growing you idiot.
1. Wow, rude.
2. How does that change anything of what I said?
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Looks like there is too many people on this planet already, so nature regulates fertility rates
Except that's wrong, you dip.
If there are "too many people on this planet already", explain why the population keeps growing but the number of people living below the poverty line, starving, dying of diseases et cetera is dropping.
If there were "too many people on this planet" you'd expect starvation to be increasing, not decreasing and especially not decreasing as fast as it is.
In the past half century the world's population grew from 4-5 billion to over 7 billion, yet the percentage of the world's population living in "extreme poverty" dropped from 40% to a mere 10%. At this point, eliminating extreme poverty is actually a realistic goal for humanity.
The world will literally be BLACKED. All other ethnic groups will be incorporated and made irrelevant like the native americans, if they take in blacks. So in short wh*toids will disappear and the black hordes will be enslaved by the new world leaders, the chinese
Maybe you are right. But i can tell in my own name, at least. I don't have a child because i spend my time in 100%. 8 hours in job, 2 hours in a gym, 2-3 hours in cinema/theater every second day, some hours for going out with friends at evening, some days for traveling in/outside the country, some hours for shopping, and finally at least one hour for Internet - and there is no time left for having a child. I also think that i don't have such a need. I need alcohol (mainly craft beer), i need sex, i need entertainments, but i don't have a feeling that i need a child.
I don't blame you, but understand that if the circumstances were different then you'd eagerly want a child.
Let's say for example that you could still do ALL that shit and still have a child. That would require a wife who is not only the primary caretaker of the children and the household, but also 100% subordinate to you and who fully falls under your authority. Then having children wouldn't be so bad, would it? You get home from work/gym, do fun stuff with them and everything else you just delegate to the wife (I mean, that's what you fucking pay her for isn't it?). That's how it went in ye olden times, before women decided they want "equal" rights and careers and all that other meme shit that only wastes their most fertile years.
Yeah, it could work. But first, i would need to be a white collar earning a lot of money, not a blue collar and CNC operator with average wage, as i am today.
>craft beer
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