WOW JUST WOW

>Eastern Europe
Yikes

>Cyprus
>2
Based

low iq GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG

Cyprus has better universities than pretty much all of eastern Europe combined.
That's hilarious.

How is that hilarious exactly?

>You can't do word class research without money
Who would've thunk

What makes a university top?

when it's based & redpilled

FINLAND MENTIONINGS

BASED

i thought ex-USSR had top-tier universities ?

remember, in these rankings literally who universities in lorraine ranks better than polytechnique
never believe anglo rankings.

When amerirankings recognize it

>usa rankings

Whoa look what I posted 5 minutes ago! Post a better ranking or keep your trap shut

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Very dumb phoneposter
I can name more universities in switzerand alone than in UK+NZ+australia+Canada

>phoneposting angloid sucking his american master off
Embarassing

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ex ussr unis a great for education, but the lack of funding hinders good research

>arbitrary trash

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>58
G*rms in suicide watch

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>The country with the most top ranked universities is also the only country in Europe where tertiary education is (partially) private
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

They STILL can't produce any other ranking lmaooo, this is an anglo world you're just living in it

JEWS DID THIS

Icelanders are really impressive people

Maybe having universities that aren't all government funded gets better results? Do you not have those on the continent?

We don't need any rankings. rankings are pretty much stupid since every student have different needs and expectations in education.

>Maybe having universities that aren't all government funded gets better results?
Yeah, that's what I'm implying.

>Do you not have those on the continent?
Pff, I wish.

>Iceland has more than Greece
INVENTED EUROPE.

s-shut up...

>28.5% of the universities in Iceland are in the top 500

Are you guys even trying?

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Iceland is 100 times more intelligent than greece

Michelin rankings for restaurants and hotel stars are just stupid, why would you need to rank and classify them, everyone wants different things!

You have an integer of universities?

What exactly is the rankings based on? Hope it's not pic related

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Just leave him be. On a board as nationalist as Jow Forums it's hard to see your own country's faults. Even when your own prime minister states that the country has grown "addicted to the state". Also, for all that "muh different things" memery, Macron sure was desperate to get Oxbridge to open up campuses in France post Brexit. Almost as if he wants a system of private tertiary education without being crucified by the electorate for selling off one or two of France's bloated state universities.

There's not a single bone in my body that doubts Sorbonne or Polytechnique (or the (not so) Free University of Amsterdam for that matter) could match Oxbridge if it went private.

I guess it would have been simpler to say 2 out of 7

in the UK the rankings are based off student surveys for study satisfaction, ratio of staff to students and how many students find a graduate job within x months of graduating iirc

>Iceland has at least 2 universities
The most surprising thing on this map

Quite interesting that we have private universities in that case then. I'm assuming that historically your schools and universities were private? Strange how you made the switch to make them public but we didn't bother for whatever reason. Also I know that the but h heslth system is pretty good because of your university hospitals so clearly something works

TURKEY BEATS GAYREECE ONCE AGAIN
YEAH SUCK IT

kara boga'd

greek universities are absolute trash, only a huge retard would ever go to one

probably success of graduates, possibly other prestige things

basically it's a self-reinforcing popularity contest

Why norwegian universities are so bad even though they have so much oil shekels?

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actually I take that back, the specific ranking type used in that map is this

it's a lot worse than i thought, half of this is basically a leftist progressivism tract with things like diversity and reputation

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Why are yuropoors so weak?

Norgay would be turdworld tier country without oil

If anything this map proves that icelanders are the mustard race

I thought we do have at least one. :/

FINLAND WINS AGAIN!!!

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Lmao so the criterion is basically "we will say if you're good if we like your country"

ICELAND IS NOT A REAL COUNTRY

*that you're good

it's mostly a backpatting and circlejerking meter, look at the biggest criterion that takes up a whole third of the score

>Also I know that the but h heslth system is pretty good
The Dutch health care system is the best in the world because... wait for it... IT'S PRIVATE! It just has two provisions compared to a fully private system:
1. Everyone is obliged to have at least basic health care
2. Health care providers are not allowed to refuse clients (avoiding American situations where you're rejected because you need a certain heart medication to stay alive)
Which means that you have a free market where various health care providers constantly compete with one another for the best service and the sharpest prices. As opposed to your NHS where the government provides for everyone, price is eliminated as a 'rationing system' and the government therefore decides what treatments you are and aren't "allowed" to get. For examply, recently the NHS decided that women over 34 are no longer entitled to get IVF treatment. You can imagine that it can get even worse under certain circumstances. Imagine for example people over retirement age no longer getting confirmed effective cancer treatments because they're too expensive and the government doesn't expect they'll be able to regain the lost investment through taxation.

Our health care system is the best in the world for the same reason your education system is the best in Europe: it exploits the best of the free market, with the government only very restrictively jumping in to fill the gaps.

The cutoff of 500 is completely arbitrary. If it was only included the top 200 universities the Nordic ranking would be like this:

Sweden: 5
Denmark: 3
Finland: 2
Norway: 2
Iceland: 0

In any case the Swedish universities are superior.

Doesn't really matter how good a school is to Average Joe if he'll never be able to afford it. Top schools here are public and you are paid to go to college.

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Average Joes aren't exactly the ones winning nobel prizes or transforming fields of science. You're also committing a fallacy here: you're pretending every university is a top of the line university. Even in a fully private system there will always be universities of middle and lower quality with corresponding tuition fees, simply because there's a demand that's not being met. There's a "hole in the market" and profit to be gained, so as long as the barrier to entry in this market is low enough someone will want to earn shekels. Even if there are very few shekels to be made, some charitable institutions like various churches have offering affordable education to the very poorest as one of their goals.

A fully public system just forces everyone to go to the same mediocre universities that therefore have no real incentive to improve. What little competition there is between them will mostly be competition for state funding, not competition for tuition.

Didn't realize this thread was about Nobel prize winners. Figured it was about the general education level of the population. One would think a population with a higher share of the population with a degree from a top university would be better educated than someone from a country with no top universities.

>you're pretending every university is a top of the line university
Not sure what you mean. I posted a map of students enrolled in a top 500 university per capita. Are you suggesting these 500 universities are not good universities?

>A fully public system just forces everyone to go to the same mediocre universities that therefore have no real incentive to improve.
If this was true those universities wouldn't break top 500, yet alone top 100.

Based turkey with inferiority issus.

the diversity is about international students and staff, not racial or ethnic structure

if people from another coutry want to go to your uniersity it probably has some prestige, nothing leftist about this

but why does prestige make a university more effective? it's supposed to measure which ones are better, not which ones have a bigger upenis

How come the best school in your country l'X isn't even in the top 100? Considering the grueling process students have to go through to get the cut. Do they have different standards for Engineering schools only or what?

Non anglos are so fucking dumb lmao

ke os flipais muxo los universitarios ai con vuestros estudios pero luego te meto un navajazo y no hay titulito ke te salve jajaj

In the Netherlands all universities are considered equal.
Some specialize in certain fields, but other than that it literally doesn't matter where you go.

The only exception is a business university for rich people that costs a gazillion dollars to join.

Is Nyenrode even a good uni? I've never even seen someone on the internet that went to Nyenrode

My brother went there. For his post-master. He said everything is more personal. People keep close track at your progress.

I'm at the UvA and people literally don't care what you do.

The more prestigious ones tend to be better. If you're getting money from students you can improve your facilities and invest more in your subjects. The more foreigners(especially non eu citizens) looking for a high standard of education in your school, the more cash.
Don't worry though, I'm sure you can complain about it in your further education camps.

Kek, I study at the UvA too and I've only seen my mentor once when he introduced himself once for 3 minutes and I haven't seen him since

except the real quality of a university could easily be measured if they just used direct measurements of success as criteria, such as how far their graduates get

I finished all subjects and have yet to finish my thesis.

Nobody has ever asked me about it.

Also what the fuck is going on with the schedules? I have a lecture at 8PM 6 hours between classes and that kind of shit while my friends at other unis even have some days off

When I picked the subject for my thesis the teacher even told me to get a different professor because he didn't have time for me. So I had to switch to a different teacher lol.

>PhD awards per academic
>income per academic

I know, the entire organization is shit. If I knew what kind of shitty uni it was before I went there I would have gone elsewhere. Closer to home perhaps.

And this shitty uni is ranked 59 in the top 500 (lol)

together those two make up 8.25% of the grade

oh hey, look at this other single criterion about number of citations that's at 32.5% on its own or this other one that's about reputational surveys and is at 19.5% on its own

nice ranking desu

Citations means it's been reaserched, reputation means it's students and teachers have made a name for it in the passed with their successes. The whole idea of Oxford/Cambridge turbocollege is the entire reputation behind the two establishments

In the past*

no, both of those mean they're at the center of rampant circlejerking, in one case academic and in the other just general

it's fine if you want information on the popularity of universities, but don't confuse it with actual results

What's wrong with the citations part?

>university researches a certain field
>its research and the papers it publishes provide a lot of insight into said field
>said research gets cited a lot precisely because it sheds light on important things
>university has therefore done a pretty good job => good university

Am I mistaken?

I don't think I had access to Slovenian research at my uni.

That's because you live in a garbage country.

and how are you determining whether it's important information that's getting cited, or if it's just, charitably, academic "discourse", or in other words patting each other's backs?

Wow nice argument there. You must be a fellow scientist.

I don't know, I imagine it's rather difficult to ascertain which one is taking place

But then again there's nothing stopping shit universities from patting each other on the back as much as the top universities to inflate their ranking, is there?
And with that in mind the only factor that could possibly make a difference is whether or not said university is producing cutting edge research

>But then again there's nothing stopping shit universities from patting each other on the back as much as the top universities to inflate their ranking, is there?
no, but sheer volume of empty citations would be governed by the volume of students and staff, which is just a measure of how well funded the university is

which, if people fall for these rankings, may be heavily governed by how many citations the university puts out...

such a nice magic circle, don't you think? and actual indisputable measures of success never need to get in the way of it

shiiet how does italy have so many? thought it was a shithole desu.

My bad italy. Im gonna learn italian

haha fucking nerds

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