Do ionian turks have just as much claim to ancient greece as mainland greeks do?

Wasn't Lydia and Commagene also a sort of Greeks?

They had greek influences, but they weren't Hellenistic or directly related

They would have a claim if they embraced their Greek heritage instead of larping as central Asians

genetically speaking it's the South italians who share most with greeks

Anatolia was considered the center of the byz empire and mainland greece(Hellas) seemed to them filled with barbarians.The main bulk of the ottoman population came from islamified Anatolians.I am talking about the 12th-14th century not the Ottoman empire

Ah, but what about ancient greece
I see what you mean and i don't get why they do it.
>mehmet my son yuo are turk now
>yu must choose heritage and preserve its history
>will you pick butiful greek culture and art
>or mongoloid muslim nomads
>...
>"yeah so basically genghis khan is my ancestor"

I'd say greeks and tvrks inherit it equally as they were both the core components
Greece was still very urbanised

user… ancient greeks were in South italy, it was their colony.

Was it as populous as the ionian region
I don't know much about the demographics of the era

no
stop making this thread btw

>Greece was still very urbanised
Neither medieval nor early modern Greece was urbanized

don't know exactly but sicily beat athens at olymycs some times lol

Doubt it, think they have the same claims with Muslim British citizens if anything, jihad akbar boom boom and all that durka stuff.

but turkroaches are shitskins, how are they gonna look at the Anatolian Mona Lisa and think they're related to her?

It's not like there's a sudden change as you cross the aegean
Greeks look like shitskins too

yeah but turkroaches are shitskins, how are they gonna look at the Anatolian Mona Lisa and think they're related to her?

Greeks are whiter than Turks, specially mainland Greeks

They have a bit of slavic admixture, but it's barely noticeable

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Religion is a bad way to gauge it because abrahamic faiths didn't exist in ancient greece

Of course, but only the ionian parts, different from the dorians

but they're shitskins , they literally roleplay as blacks in here, most of them have folders with hundreds of pictures of black cocks to spam.
Why would they claim Ancient Greek? They wanna blow whites up just like all other durkas.
I mean, fuckers might be retarded, by they're retarded shitskins.
>inb4 all shitskins are retarded
you dig?

Religion was the thing that differentiated us from the converted Anatolians and Greeks. Once a Greek converted to Islam he would be considered a turk rather than a Greek.

come to think about it, they can claim they built Ancient Greece since we used lots of shitskins to carry marbles and shit up the hill, same with Albanians they built modern Greece.
We're Boss White I guess

Kara boğa is just shitposting to peeve Jow Forumstards

I literally can't tell apart greeks and turks
You both look equally brown

Ρε φίλε από που είσαι kαι λες ότι όλοι μας είμαστε kατασπροι? Υπάρχουν αρkετοί Έλληνες που είναι τόσο μελαχρινοι όσο οι Τούρkοι

I think it's more of a reaction to the extreme amounts of bullying they got, and being unable to post without getting called a no good genocidal turkroach shitskin.

ox ase me na kano ligo kazo ta pakia re psile kainourios eisai edw?

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Exactly
So what you call turks are just muslik greeks

ο kέλλυ είναι ρε βλίτο, ποσο new είσαι;

Wasn't the roach thing a forced meme by a greek poster who got tired of being called a turk rapebaby

that's bullshit though and you know it, I bet you change sidewalk as frequent as you do with other shitskins when it comes to turks.
Shit, the other day I changed sidewalk only to realize the people walking towards me weren't regular pakoislam shitskins but just turkroaches, they talk as loud and menacing, you know all that "durka durka allah", think I heard a "kill whitey" in there.
You can never be sure.

no, I started it with a Cypriot in 2013 and it took off like a rocket. Kinda feel bad for them shitskins you know. No wonder they want to blow shit up and jihad everyone to death.
Leaving all segregated being ignored, and not standing a chance with not even whitey's dog.
Shit, blow me up right now, I'm sorry. Cast that stone.

Anyhow, I think it went a bit too far, you know I now see everyone around the globe bullying them and calling them turkroaches? They're stealing our jobs lol. haha

I've even seen threads on Quora "Why do whites call Turks roaches? " hahahahah, all it took was three threads on Jow Forums and give turks their nicknames forever in history books.
I made history! hundred years from now, they're gonna have my name in who gave turkroaches their name. -Kelly

hahaha

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Καλά ρε μαλαkα kελλυ νόμιζα πως έλεγες μαλαkιες μόνο στο χελλ kαι στο μπαλk. Είμαι σχετιkά νέος αφού δύο χρόνια είμαι στο int οπότε έχω αkόμα να μάθω

I can't tell if you're serious or not

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well I don't have a screenshot of the thread, but I am the one well in collaboration with the Cypriot that gave Turks their Christian name of roach.
You don't have to believe me or anything. Just so you know.
come on, I bet you wish you had done it, you're jealous.

I SHOOK UP THE WORLD!
youtube.com/watch?v=BY6_3Y7OOo8

Ah cool, aplos goustaro threads me mousoulmanous. peftei arketo xesimo.

im okay with that shitskin posts. but when they posted by a gre*k, wheeew man. are you serios user? literally?

Why the fuck would turks get to claim anything when they were fucking around in central asia while this was going on?

shitskin bro! finally you here, tell that motherfucker who started the turkroach trend, he wont believe me.

Turks get like 10% of dna from central asia

Why would you want to be wh*te anyway
Everyday girls avoid me for BBC

why do anyone believe a shitskinned gre*k komşu?

I had the misfortune of being born blond tall and I guess you could classify me as hollywood pretty.
FOR YEARS I've been shamed, but no more! It's time to take a stand. No more shaming for being a really really good looking blond person.

either way it's just fun to call muslims shitskin durka terrorists right in their face without any interaction or fear of getting knived.

because look at my flag and look at yours, I play for team Jesus and you for team Boom Boom

Ξανθό μουνί, τρελό γαμήσι. Στήσου

then why are they so brown if ancient hellenes like alexander were blonde and pale
explain this atheists

So why didn't you conquer them?

Because they weren't

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Well we ruled this earth for so long developed it in what it is today, it was time to take a backseat for once, you know share the ball a bit, let others see if they can top us.
You're welcome.

Judging by the OP you ruled virtually nothing

>we

Really? thought the map backs my claims even more, since that was all the civilized world back then and look where it is now, all thanks to us.
Have a pint on me tonight, three cheers for GREECE!
HIP HIP!

shitskin bro you left? thought you were gonna back me up.

What about lydia, babylonia, Persia, assyria, egypt, phoenecia etc.

what about them? ta fuck is Lydia? I knew a chick named Lydia, class a bj, no tits though.
You know we would chill at her place by the fireplace, feed strawberries to each other, good times, didn't like horror movies though, and I love them.
So that was it, I ended right here and there, no motherfucking bitch is gonna have different movie tastes than mine, you gotta to assert your dominance in this world.
We are men, men is what we are.

Epic troll, i actually fell for it

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im watching you shitting all over the thread komşu. thats like observing a lunatic from far away knowing he's a relative at the end of the day. just sad.

Greco-Turk bickering is art and is all worthy of screencapping

the notion of being related even remotely to some dark person made me vomit a little bit in mouth from laughter and disgust hahaha, funny guy

exactly, that's why I want to stop the turkroach meme, it went too far, now even mexicans are shitting on turks, I don't want that. Shitting on turks was supposed to be our job, like you have with pakoshitskins and eastern Europeans.

MAKE TURKS TWO LEGGED AGAIN!
who's with me?

All memes aside on Jow Forums, Turks look like Arabs basically, who the hell told you that they look Southern European ?
They are very exotic looking, some of them also show signs of Asian eye structures
I see them every day here on the streets

you could say that they TOOK OUR JOBS!

That image is highly anachronistic
>They affirm likewise that Alexander Son of Philip was of a neglectful handsomness: For his Hair curled naturally, and was yellow; yet they say there was something stern in his countenance.
>For he had the hair of a lion and one eye was blue

Southern Europeans look like arabs
Everyone south of Austria looks like an arab to me
Even some brits like russell brand look like arabs

Plutarch is not reliable when it comes to descriptions of appearances of historical figures
He describes Augustus as blonde haired and blue eyed, but evidence from contemporary statues suggests otherwise

The facial features are heavily different, though
Middle Easterners and Southern Europeans may have similair pigmentation but the structure of the nose etc. is a give away for most of the time, Turks and other people from Near East share this long and convex noses and very deep set eyes

where's the turk?
fucking shit, you scared him away again.
One turks pop up and you have to take him down.
you fucking shits. what am I gonna do now?
where's the fun without turkroaches around?

He's lurking
If he posts too often he becomes uninteresting

There can't be that much difference considering that greeks originated from anatolia

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shit, that's one shitskin less to play with.
What am I gonna do, diaspora shitskins are not that fun, they're already depressed by being the bottom of the social barrel in their respective white countries.
At least Turkroaches from Turkland have still some fall sense of being someone.

But I'm always told that the west is lefty and liberal and praises non-whites

The common misconception nordicists have is that "blond" as described by ancient greek historians means the nordic blond of today. This is incorrect. "Ξανθός" can be used to describe anyone with hair color from platinum blond to light brown, as happens today. Northern european societies use blond in a very different way from southerners.

quote me when he comes back ok,

I'll play some def leppard while waiting for him

youtube.com/watch?v=YgRpubWunUc

All of Southern Europe originated from Neolithical farmers of Anatolia
The difference is that even Greeks have somehow around 30 percent Indo-European input from the steppes, the same heritage that is dominating in Northern Europe
Some Southernes have even more (Iberians and Northern Italians)
British people like Russel Brand will themselves contain a large amount of Anatolian farmer

yet turks have black hair, which is still not even close to the darkest "blonde" can be construed as

All turks are swarthy :^)

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My post was aimed for people that think ancient meds were all platinum-haired nords, nothing to do with turks. I'm not the turk uk flag nor did I pay attention to that reply chain.

"Mainland" Greece had a million people in 1025 ad while Anatolia and Constantinople had 11 million

Could I pass as a local in your cunt?

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Source?
That seems a bit disproportionate

Until you start talking, yea

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what do you mean about my accent user?

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Everyone south of austria and east of italy sounds bakalaka maka haka shaka kuku sumo

This seems quite fake
Western Anatolia was inhabited by mostly Mediterranean populations or what ? Where are the Kurds ? Where are the Caucasus populations in the North-East ?

don't make fun of us at least we try

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What sort of a question is this? That's the population density of the byzantine lands

It's not my fault non-native speakers sound weird

Is the turk back?

ta fuck do you mean? North Europe has like 40 million shitskins running wild, you probably here durkallah languages more often than we do.
Lol
>south of austria
when's the last time you left your house, you can literally get beheaded on the street these days for not wearing a burka in Austria pfhahah.

I don't live near a city

I don't think the Kurds were there yet. This is from around 1000 ad. And why would the Caucasus be included