IT'S OFFICIAL

Yeah, we genocided them with technology and then left, leaving behind our allied Viets to be culled

Wasn't that the war where they were armed with the latest Soviet tanks, aircraft, and SAMs?

Really gets the noggin joggin.
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We didn't lose because we lost battles, we pulled out because of unrest back home. The KD ratio was something like 60,000 Americans to 3 million Vietnamese

>this fucking cope

revise this statement

Hahaha btfo by farmers with chopsticks

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>The US couldn't have won the Vietnam war
Yeah and the Brits couldn't have won the American Revolutionary war

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I never said we left victorious, I implied the opposite you petrol sniffing tard.
I refuted the point of the post I responded to: we annihilated the Vietnamese with superior technology and pulled out before the war finished.

>has full tech advantage
>kd is 1:2
Why americans are so shit at warfare

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>still coping this hard
OH NO NO NO NO NO

>The UK's defeat at Jutland
Article immediately disregarded.

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> Major action in ww2
> Major action in Korea
> Major action in Vietnam
> Minor action in lebanon 1982
> Major action in 1991 Iraq
> Major action in 2003 Iraq
> Constant drilling, training, development and ship upgrades
> Constant cycling and review of commanding officers
> Constant addition and implimentation of new technology
> Largest, most heavily armed and advanced navy in the world

Modern naval combat is about firing missiles at 100kms of range, Stratgic opperations, air power and Technology, no other nation's navy as 10% of the combined experience, technology or material as the US navy, any other argument is just contrarian drivel

1:10***
FTFY

>Modern naval combat is about firing missiles at 100kms of range,
Didn’t israel vs Egypt in yon kipper (I think) disprove this?

60,000:3,000,000 = 1:2
>russian education
dumb abbo
good post

>500 k sv and usa vs 1 mil max vc
>1:10
BEHOLD the burgermath

The scale of the conflict plus resourcing issues make it hard to tell if it was a trend that a hypothetical China v usa 2040 naval war would look like

I think missle tech has improved a lot more than CWIS and anti missle defense has in the last 40 years

Absolutely fucking seething

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>being this mad
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

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I see you Huang.

I presume they took a look at the disparity in ships lost and drew conclusions as only people from this current century can

>MIG

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Your airforce has had major accidents caused by flight crews stealing methyl alochol from engine cooling systems

it would be hard pressed to put a 3rd of it's planes into the air in a war since it's so badly underfunded, rescourced and lacks good pilots and engineers

A war is about more than the quality of equipment, if you have no one to fly planes because your country is a frozen bog filled with druken aids ridden sub humans then you're never going to be able to fight a modern war

>Why americans are so shit at warfare

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>still going
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

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HAHAHAHAHAHA

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COPE
Btfo by superior vietchad how can ushartians and criminals even recover

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Not sure if this counts as COPE but we were fighting France and the Netherlands at the same time which kinda tied up our navy.

>so fearful of China he spends trillions of tax payer money funding military bases all around the world while Americans at home can't afford basic healthcare
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

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Our kd was 10x times of your kd )

>its another low-quality argument thread

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>Letting Chinese buy up all of your properties and take control of your politics
OH NO NO NO NO NO

>including south Vietnam in USA’s KD
I know you guys are poor but they didn’t sanction basic fucking intelligence did they? Can you walk and chew gum at the same time?

BAHAHAHAHAHA

Its only logical because SV did most of the fighting

Correct, we did all of the bombing

>New Zealand Navy
Don't you mean the RAN's New Zealand Squadron?

>why Americans are so shit at warfare

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like we’ve been saying they had a state-of-the-art SAM/interceptor fighter radar system. I think at one point Hanoi airspace was the most heavily-defended place on Earth

Make up your mind
>hurr durr super high-tech USA got beat by rice farmers
or
>hurr durr USA is not #1 and got beat by superior Soviet technology

You can’t have it both ways my Mongol friend

At least we won )

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>muh K/D ratio
The G*rman's had a high K/D ratio on the Eastern Front.

Does that mean they won?

Both are true because soviet technology was shit but still superior to mutt shit stolen from nazi germany

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Germans had 1/1.3 kd thats not that high

The Germans also didn't choose to lose the war, The US did.
>Poorer than Italy despite 3x the population
lmao

High than yours, Ruskie

>We chose to lose the war

Do you take pride in gross ignorance?

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No, we were there because the war escalated specifically because SV could not do most of the fucking fighting.

Phillip Caputo writes that his unit got taken off a mission against the VC because a SV went rogue and launched a coup or something. So they literally got taken off a mission to put down a SV general. And this kind of shit happened a lot. And similar shit happened a lot.

One or two ARVN units fought hard as hell, during the fall of SV, but most DGAF. If the SV could actually fight as well as the VC, we A) wouldn’t be there, or B) would’ve won. In fact I think that’s the main reason we pulled out, because it wasn’t worth it to prop up a government that couldn’t even survive on its own

We did though, The US stopped because Americans hated fighting in Vietnam and started violently protesting.

>tfw your country doesn't even support your wars

It's Jow Forums faggot, i'm just returning the favor to that shitposting Aussie

This.

And this isn't even blind patriotism, the Wikipedia article clearly states this.

What the fuck is OPs post?

Not that one.

>both are true
>are literal contradictions of each other
???

Come on Ivan, I know it’s hard to think through the vodka and krocodil but you’ve got to stay with me
>rice farmers
or
>soldiers with superior USSR hardware

>at least we won

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>rice farmers with superior USSR hardware

>First

We lost, but only because we didn’t see the point anymore. We basically took our ball and went home

But yeah we lost for sure, I can admit it. We should never have been there in the first place. Domino theory was bullshit

The Russian fears the CHECHEN BVLL

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Shitposting aside.

At least you made an -effort- to defend Australasia and South East Asia.

Unlike Br*tain

And boomers call us millenials pussies.
>been at war for 17 years and counting

>support ISIS against Russia
Oh wait, you're American, I'm unsurprised

>muh Nein Eleven

B-but once they get the superior USSR hardware they become professional soldiers. They weren’t farming rice while they were learning radar and fighter piloting

>ISIS
>1994

At least post real numbers muttina

Isn't that an ISIS flag?

Mujahideen smoothbrain

So if I give a random kid a AK-47, he's now a soldier?

>implying there's a different between flavours of Muslim Extremism

Robert McNamara lowered the IQ test requirements for the Army because college students were exempt from the draft, so they took in a lot of barely literate hillbillies from the South and Appalachia who died in droves.

USSR tech does magic

>college students were exempt from the draft
If you're exempt from the draft, you shouldn't be allowed to vote.

It’s neither asshole! Soviet technology was fair but defeatable and the little pajama wearing gooks didn’t bear us...we walked away because hippies and Demotards wanted out of that war.

Hey you and SK were in the shit with us, so I can’t actually shit talk any of you. I’ll take shit from you all rather than a filthy R*ussian

>trusting the perfidious albion
NEVER again can we allow ourselves to get tricked

Yeah the YPJ and ISIS are the same thing lol

>NEVER again can we allow ourselves to get tricked
Never trust the eternal anglo

Because you got btfo hard like a retard you are
See ya later cowboy homo nigger

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I read Colin Powell's bio, he said this was a very real thing and a lot of the draftees they got shouldn't have been in the Army and weren't fit for service while actors, professional athletes, and sons of Congressmen got out of the war.

Stop taking enemy civilian losses into account, Ivan

Vietnam
>8 years for a perceived threat
Afghanistan
>infinite years because an actual threat

But we owe it to future generations of shitposters to never lose a war again. I don’t care what it takes, I’ll be cold and in the ground before I let my child/grandchild ever read
>losing to opium farmers

inb4
>taking a century to beat opium farmers
>implying you’re going to have offspring

reminder that up until a couple of years ago 1 of our aircraft carriers was literally larger than some countries entire naval force (such as australia) when measured by volume displacement

>The UK's defeat at Jutland
Excuse me?

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>lose Vietnam war
>cuck Soviets in Afghan war
>win Cold War
>win sanctions war
Worth it

And aircraft carriers are worthless in an actual modern war

Also, you hav 15x our population, Amerishart.

US military got heavily outclassed in North-Africa where they had to learn how to fight again. Lessons learned were used to steamroll Europe

Also we burnt down the white house.

>infiltrate american mind and destroy their shitcunt from inside
Worth it

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>force projection is worthless

Yikes

That’s retarded and goes entirely against the spirit of civil institutions, kill yourself insect

aircraft carriers are the single most important asset you can have for force projection
>you have 15x our population
that does not excuse a single ship outsizing your entire navy

Yeah and we burned down Toronto

For force projection.

Not for naval warfare.

Remember one of our -diesel-electric submarines- sunk your carrier in war games.