/balk/-Balkan Thread

>20% gipis and turks
>40% undeclared
This is newborns in bulgayria for 2017 lmafo

Niggers

I'm going to belgrade at the end of this year to meet my gf. Give me some advice balklads

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A 9mm to the temple

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>I'm sorry but no way a city in a 2 million country that is not part of the EU could surpass the capital city of a highly developed not touched by Turks EU country being so close to Italy and Austria.

Look at this map, only a slightly darker shade of green

If they do a rundown on 2020 stats, Zagreb is literally finished. I bet Aerodrom is superior to literally the richest area in Zagreb

Even our elite areas look identical to theirs, go walk through the mountain in Zagreb where their best houses are on street view and then do the same for the mountain in Skopje. Try to find a difference

You overestimate how rich "Zagreb" is, literally SK and BG are on it's level already and about to surpass it because they are doing nothing in Zagreb

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Not really its 80% Bulgarians

>I bet Aerodrom is superior to literally the richest area in Zagreb

show me the newest photos from Aerodrom

but not taken at night

>This is Zagreb

Wait no it's not lol there are visible bike paths

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what will happen to the Papal State if I change the government to Islamist?

youtube.com/watch?v=XiXWXKXtPmU

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no way they'd build such a kitschy building in Zagreb

Cъpбoфиpoмититe нe paзбиpaт кoнцeпциятa зa oбeктивнa peaлнocт.

wow another jewish puppet :D
hail trump! hail milo! hail ben shapiro! :Ddddddddd

I haven't been taking photos of streets in a long time anywhere, I'm just stating the fact that there is nothing you can do to improve us becuase we're that rich now

>Bike paths everywhere
>Marked pavements, roads, new infrastrcture
>New facades and buildings
>New expensive cars

We are the most developed place in the entire Balkans

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Ok

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Change currency ? y/n

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This is 10km away from Aerodrom in Gjorce (the end of karpos)

Still equally nice

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If you find one street in Zagreb that looks like this I will proclaim Zagreb the #2 most developed city

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>tauros
I only see wh*tes...

My nigga

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Weebs are raiding ex-yu lol

>a road and a road sign

Well, my probably future gf will travel to Sofia tomorrow to visit some friends. If she can find a work she plan to return and live there. Me? any place is good. I just want to spend the next 30 years doing nothing. So I was planning to buy a bunch of apartments and rent them. How much money do you need to live comfortably there?

why does this woman and people behind her drive on the wrong side of the lane?

Tourists are autistic subhumans and I hate them all

>Muuuh landmuurrks where I can take pictures for instagram

They don't notice development at all. These subhumans would like Skopje more if it had the Taj Mahal or something iconic and everything else was falling apart than if it had a shitty tourist center but everything else was 1st world and livable

Lmao imagine being a tatar and speaking russhitian
>edin narod

>autistic subhumans

I am the only more autistic person than you in the entire world.

>bulgars still fall for kellyfat's proxyfagging and post serious replies

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To live comfortably with one income probably 3000lv, 1500 eur.

>if it had a shitty tourist center

But wasn't Gruevski's plan to create a beautiful and lovely tourist center?

You can buy apartments in Shitfia for 40-50k, they will be 40-50 sqm2 in the new developments, kinda on the outskirts. If you buy in the center area it's double that

You can buy 4, maybe 5 apartments in Sofia for 200 g's and rent them out for 400-500 euros each.

The apartments will likely go up in price because Sofia has an underrated real estate market, they have huge salaries and economy but their real estate is worth dogshit

kys

>they have huge salaries and economy

>Beta city
>Warsaw is Alpha and has only slightly higher prices than Sofia

I'm sorry but Sofia is actually overpriced as fuck, the bubble will burst soon.

Food, bills, going out - 800lv
Car - petrol, insurance - 250lv
Clothes and other necessities- 400lv
Daycare if kids (per kid) - 600-800lv
Rest - save, other

Sigh. I will look in some subhuman third world cesspool. Argentina maybe

we don't plan to have kids. At all. so it would be like 700-800€ at month for two people? Not a lot honestly

It's kinda better than the gypsy square it used to be with stray dogs and stuff, but overdone to a point where it's laughable (on the ground it does look fucking nice)

I mean tourists are autistic NPCs, I rarely find a guy who would come and go further than the very touristic area where they sell trinkets, that's all I see on youtube

They would enjoy Novi Sad more because of muuuh 1 street with austro-hungarian infrastructure while the entire town is literally a gypsy shithole, but here they won't even venture out to Aerodrom or Karpos because it takes too much work to figure out how to get on the bus

argentina has high taxes
I have relatives there its not nice

>apartments and rent them

This is what my economic teacher would do.

However, I advice you to buy restaurants even small ones, you will be able to get 1000-2000 for them a month depending where you are. If its in Sofia, you are guaranteed easy income.

If you want to spend your life doing fuck all in the next 30 years, you should stay away from resorts or the sea side of Bulgaria. Too much temptation for a foreigner.

If I were you I wouldn't bother with Sofia, try to find a place in Plovdiv, ask her if she can go work in Plovdiv. But in the end it doesn't matter. As long as you have a 1000 Euro's per month, you will live easy.
Buy yourself property near the center like restaurants or something, you will live like a king.
Life is cheap here, more so than the west, and other SE countries.
In haskovo in the bus station, there is a guy who pays for a small shot, a very small one, like a small kitchen 2000levs per month, but gets nearly 5000 levs a month.
>How much money do you need to live comfortably there?
Although Sofia has the most entertainment so if you wanna go for that, you can go there but you should need 1500 euro per month to live good and have one child. If you have 3000 euros per month, you can have 2-3 children. Its mainly this expensive if you want to sing up your children for swimming lessons and high class schools and such, if you want them to go to normal school 2000 euros should be enough for a family of 4.
Consult the girlfriend first.
Do not accept.

i opted out :D

How autistic are you fucktard?

Warsaw has 2.7K a sqm2!!! Sofia has like 1.2-1.3. Sofia is the same price as Skopje, but their salaries are almost as much as Warsaw (maybe 15-20% less).

Sofia real estate could be 2-3x as much and it would still be reasonable

>They would enjoy Novi Sad more because of muuuh 1 street with austro-hungarian infrastructure while the entire town is literally a gypsy shithole, but here they won't even venture out to Aerodrom or Karpos because it takes too much work to figure out how to get on the bus

Yeah, I understand it well, my little town doesn't get any tourists because it doesn't have muh historical architecture (that's the price you pay for being part of Russia) even though it has first world infrastructure and urban planning

The same is with Warsaw to a certain degree.

>Warsaw has 2.7K a sqm2!!!

lol, no

average price in Warsaw is 8 720 PLN = 2022 EUR. 2,7k would be a very expensive property

Go check your real estate market again, 2.7k the same as in Budapest

Only prague is at 4.7k, literally Berlin tier

Warsaw is a very expensive city

>but their salaries are almost as much as Warsaw (maybe 15-20% less).

salaries in Sofia are 30% lower than in Warsaw

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2000lv you can live ok if you arent big on expenses. Have in mind that salaries rise a lot here, meaning probably the expenses will rise too. But if you rent out you are ok. I make ca. 1k a month only from air bnb

Warsaw looks way better to me than Prague, it's the most American city in Europe

>Go check your real estate market again

I did, this is official data. Maybe you looked on sites for foreigners, prices are vastly overestimated there.

Thanks for the info. I'm almost 30 and tired as fuck to work. So I must choose really wisely my next moves. Btw, no child for us and she want to work. So basically we will split our finances.

Bullshit, I know a woman who make 3000 levs a month and sends her kid to a school with uniforms and lots of other expenses for it. She also signed it up for swimming classes and she ,the mother, goes to the gym and goes to a lot of restaurants each month or two, she even went to France 2-3 years ago.

If you and the women both have decent income, you can afford two kids. Easy.
You should probably learn how to invest or something too.

Pooland is a damp swamp.

Sofia lucked out because their developers overbuilt and made real estate so accessible that their prices are among the best compared to salary ratio

I bet people purchasing apartments in Sofia now will be like if you purchased property in Australia in the 90s and sold to the chinks in 2018

Τι γkεημ είναι αυτό;

I myself checked Warsaw real estate in Polish, couldn't find anything that isn't a rats nest under 500k zloty

hearts of iron 4 me Millennium Dawn mod

AZ 6TE SE VRNA

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Housing quality is very poor in Sofia. Due to three decades of atrociously bad urban planning, traffic will soon enter a state of eternal gridlock, and the city will become unlivable. Soon.

>buy real estate in bulgaria
>lose it when the russians finally annex the place

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Not really

lol

otodom.pl/sprzedaz/mieszkanie/warszawa/?search[filter_float_price:to]=400000&search[description]=1&search[order]=filter_float_price:desc&search[dist]=0&search[subregion_id]=197&search[city_id]=26

here's the most popular real estate site, I set a price under 400k

not really, prices in Warsaw are not as high as you say and our salaries are much higher than in Sofia

I have no income at the moment. Left uni after a bunch of serious accident and don't plan to return. I already paid taxes for my savings so since they're not so much money in wet eu I was planning to emigrate and maximize the value. It happened that a friend was planning to go in Bulgaria and I liked Varna from the description so I was interested in talking with /balk/

>Eufag says he purchased an apartment cause of my shitposting here and made money
>tfw I literally made eurfag thousands of euros

sounds like Athens, enjoy

how does economy work on that game? from what i've heard it doesn't have an economy system.

I have a better suggestion for you.
Albania.

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>here's the most popular real estate site, I set a price under 400k

Exactly retard, it's 100k for a tiny 50 sqm2 apartment on the outskirts of warsaw in bad condition

The same apartment new on the outskirts of sofai would be 45-50k. Your prices are certainly way above 2.5k a sqm2

it doesnt have an economy no
but you can trade oil and metals for your guns/ships/planes and create military factories and civilian factories etc

>Exactly retard, it's 100k for a tiny 50 sqm2 apartment on the outskirts of warsaw in bad condition

What?

otodom.pl/oferta/wawer-3-pokoje-76-10m2-do-wlasnej-aranzacji-ID3Mnxi.html#ebfb139af8

Here's 76 sqm on the outskirts for 92k eur and it's fairly new (from 2009)

Yeah true

Well, they speaks Italian yes. But they're out of the EU. And I've read a lot of shit about tribalism and vengance. A really (south) Italian mindset that we don't share from the place I come from

This is Aerodrom in 2018, literally Germany-tier infrasturcture

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Hey, at least we used the EU shekels to build some highways to escape from the city. Escape to the Aegean coast, even.

There are already plenty of italians here too

>Exactly retard, it's 100k for a tiny 50 sqm2 apartment on the outskirts of warsaw in bad condition

And 100k for 50 sqm is exactly 2k/sqm so that's pretty much what I said

And we don't call 50 sqm here tiny desu. It's standard flat size for a couple without children here.

>And I've read a lot of shit about tribalism and vengance.
Not an issue unless you plan on venturing into forgotten rural areas.

R8 Tirana bike path

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I've seen where they are, barely in warsaw

Middle of nowhere. Lol maybe you get 30sqm2 for 100 g's in real warsaw

You are deluding yourself if you don't think warsaw prices are exactly 2.7k

Since we gave you a lot of EU funds what is Bulgarian's opinion about Slovenians-italians?
Are they retarded like the anti-EU greek shitposters?

Pshek enjoy jerking off to this, an entire twitter page dedicated to biking in skopje

twitter.com/NaTochak/media

Italians are rather liked

cringe and blupilled. kys

Looks like a pedestrian path you uploaded the wrong picture

>doesnt dominate
>doesnt have children
Lmao this is like the most typical soyboy eurocuck mentality

Your girl could pay the bill for house up keep and rent and you could contribute to the food expenses.

If you aren't planning to make children soon, there are apartments in Varna that are 150 euro per month, for 2 people and fully furnished.

But Varna is a tourist city, so you might get needy and want to spend lots of money.

>barely in warsaw

You said "on the outskirts".

>Middle of nowhere. Lol maybe you get 30sqm2 for 100 g's in real warsaw

Bullshit

otodom.pl/oferta/wolanowa-inwestycjasuper-ceny-ID3qdNO.html#ebfb139af8

here's a new building almost in the centre, 2,1k EUR/sqm and people complain that it's very expensive

About Slovenians there is no real opinion, Slovenia is too unknown to us to have some opinion of it different than doing well.

tököm tele van ezzel a fonállal faszom az egészbe