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wa.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mwaisse_pådje
just stumbled on the walloon wikipedia.
it looks so familiar, but so different. like alien french or something

Need to stop worrying about the why and just try to understand that there is no universal rules to language
Even if it seems arbitrary and retarded

I wanted to learn Estonian before I decided to learn Lithuanian. I still do wish to learn it but I am currently still working on Lithuanian and Polish and still having fun so...hopefully one day.

>working on Polish
>spending a nice sum of time familiarizing myself with the usage of 'by, aby, żeby'

kind of strange to wrap my brain around but starting to get a hang of it. I have read in some places that 'aby' and 'żeby' are almost interchangable but noone would give you too much shit if you just use the 'żeby' form. Is this correct?

You did make sure to spend/plan for at least an hour of language study today, right user?

What's your favorite way to go about learning a language and what do you find the most efficient? Do you just keep translating text or have specific exercises?

no ive been high all day

>thread is ded
blogposteeeeén

>bij fancy diner, pak en alles
>name tags on the tables
>ik zit naast een Finse qt
>we talk literally the whole night, barely talk to anyone else
>she speaks 4 languages and we only talk about cultures and social norms and language fun facts
>iedereen gaat naar een pub
>nog steeds aan het praten, we're laughing our asses off even on the way
>biertjes en zo drinken grapjes maken
>eventually everyone goes home/to the hotel
>I know her already actually, she's very nice and lovely but single mom with kid in a country I'd never move to
>bye bye
>bye bye take care
en dat was het

Ik wil gewoon dood oetz

I practice when I doing some other stuff. Still need some more Polish news sites and all that stuff before I get a Polish book.

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what do you think about the chilean dialect? youtube.com/watch?v=XtuEsw9c2YA

I want to learn norwegian and spanish, but i'm not motivated.

>pagina nina

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Norwegian help?

youtube.com/watch?v=Cq1FbyNXAbg

Inge: og _____________ for sine synder, men tro meg ...
Gisle: Vi sender, selvfolgelig, så snart som mulig en hær sor ___ for å finne kongens sonn.
Inge: Ingen forlater _____________ til svikteren er tatt. Ingen _______ derfra.

Do you mean diacritics/Harakat? Why would anyone use that lmao.

Should I learn Spanish, lads?
Pretty confident about passing the Japanese N1 test this year and the appeal of knowing Japanese is gone.

best resources to learn arabic (written) thanks here a picture of a cute thing in return

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im going out for my daily night walk. ill be back in an hour or so. i understand the question is not very specific but any help is good thank

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Learn spanish since it's apparently very closely related to portuguese.

i wanna learn southern german so I can terrorize my German friend and his family cause he always shits on me for good fun.

So what you're saying is that the only thing he has to do is to learn the arabic words like you would have to in any other language? That's insane

(ö = slashed o)

>og de ska slippe böte for sine synder, men tro meg ...

>Vi sender, selvfölgelig, så snart som mulig en hær sörover for å finne kongens sönn.

>Ingen forlate kongsgården för svikeren er tatt. Ingen slipper ut herfra.

Had to replay that last one so many times, god damn. He really slurs that.

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What's the appeal of learning Spanish to you?

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>not learning finnish

anyone have tips for general productivity? I know some of you niggas study a lot.

Who wants help with Spanish / Galician

how do i not get anxious when wanting to view new content in the language i'm learning
i'll just procrastinate and put it off because i feel worried about it for some reason

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You know, you could have a look at the resources linked in the OP instead of just (You)ing yourself with anime grills.

I don't know the answer to your question, so I say you're gonna have to examine the material yourself, unless someone also learning Standard Arabic swoops in and provides you with what you need. Thread is pretty dead at these hours though.

Force yourself to study at least five minutes a day, no exceptions. If you still can't stand doing so after five, try again later/the next day

This post gave me hope. Not because of the advice but because I do the same thing with 30 Minutes as bare minimum and one hours as desirable minimum. Some of you guys have it worse than I it seems kek

many little learn make big learn

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"Getting started is the hardest part" isn't a meme

Due to some real life thing I'm learning 2 languages at the same time and I fully agree that getting started takes a long while. Once you've got a solid fundament it's kinda like a walk in the park though, depending on the language.

I mean getting started learning for the day

Oh, now that's silly. Just start with vocab while you're taking a morning shit and then go from there. Shouldn't be that hard.

'STRAYA
Too busy wackin' emus

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>English speaking countries don't have to learn English as a second language
Woah, what a genius

Set timer for five minutes and read what you can. When it goes off stop and take a break. Repeat. Getting started with a task can be overwhelming so it helps if you tackle it a little at a time.

What's the most painful but effective method of learning a language?

To start

1% is a lot though.

Imagine having a vocab of 3500 in your TL... you'd have to learn 35 words to improve 1%

I doubt any human could learn 35 words a day unless they're doing full immersion

What if I try to translate the bible? Man, learning a new language is so boring. I don't even know how I learned English anymore.

thanks so much Sven. Can you do another one?

youtube.com/watch?v=VqfNzePSuI8

> Hvis så han ikke _____ mulighet til selv å bli konge?
> Kommer (?) du med det?
> Hvis Kongs Sverres arve dor med Håkon Håkonsson, med en av dem som arve tronen. ???

When you read your native language or english you don't read letter by letter but just look at the overall form of the word, that's why in most cases we can still read our native language when the first and last letters are correct and the letter inbetween are scrambeled. So just learn the words as a whole instead of letter by letter

I would at least use something written in normal speech. Learn your language's grammar before trying anything though

Even for full immersion that's excessive and terrible for retention

I was joking, dudes but I read about this guy who did stuff like that

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe_Caspar_Mezzofanti

>Mezzofanti was well known for being a hyperpolyglot who according to Russell 1858 spoke at least thirty languages "with rare excellence",

>Biblical Hebrew, Mishnaic Hebrew, Arabic, Chaldee, Coptic, Ancient Armenian, Modern Armenian, Persian, Turkish, Albanese, Maltese, Greek, Romaic, Latin, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, French, German, Swedish, Danish, Dutch, Flemish, English, Illyrian, Russian, Polish, Czech, Magyar, Chinese.

from another place:
>Mezzofanti read a huge amount of books in the language he was learning. He read books that he already knew in another language and could translate them over. He also made use of dictionaries, grammar books, and polyglot bibles.

Meant for

sounds like the biggest religionaboo

>Hvis han da ikke öyner en mulighet til selv å bli konge?
>Hva mener du med det?
>Hvis Kong Sverres arv dör ut med Håkon Håkonsson, er det en av dem som arver tron

Give me reasons why

Seriously, what’s with Spanish? It looks so artificial and robotic, like no human could actually naturally speak. The fact that the only association I make with it is garbage YouTube videos doesn’t help, and I have read Don Quixote, so it’s not like I’m clueless about the culture.

- Get accepted into a kindergarten to Year 12 school that teaches your target language.
- Get to learn the language the natural way
- Wait 12-13 years while getting good marks
- Bobs your uncle, you are now fluent in your target language at a high school grad level.

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Let me rephrase:
get accepted in a K-12 school that teaches IN your target language, i.e. in the country where the language is the official one.

No, you need to talk to people. Learning from courses, grammar exercises, dictionaries etc are good for building up your lexicon, but that's like a theory component. You need to put it into practice, by listening and speaking with people. And between the times when you're not talking to people who speak your target language, do reading, writing, join a group chat and start responding to messages with some of your own, like what you're doing now in English.

Yeah żeby is the most universal from these

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It isn't that either. It's different in Arabic.For example, علم(ع ل م) can mean any of the following: Flag(عَلَمْ), Knowledge(عِلمْ), "was taught"(عُلّمْ) or "he/she knew"(عَلَمَ) in Modern Standard Arabic.

The only way you can figure out what علم means without context is using these small diacritics/marks which no one even uses. I doubt people in MENA even know that their keyboards can type these diacritics.

So is this thread as dead as Volapuk?

So apparently after a long time without needing it I might be forced to take some sort of test to validate my English. So what can you tell me about those TOEFL/TOEIC tests anons? Aside from them being stupidly expensive for what they're worth and for expiring in a flash. I suppose TOEIC is more preferred if I want something for my CV? Or should I go for the TOEFL variant? Are they even different? There seem to be quite a few forms the test can take so I'm unsure.

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I've had a cold this last week, didn't really do much learning. good thing I got the flu shot

cant help it lad wish i was studying my spanish but im addicted to ganja

Give contact info

I'm currently learning Irish, I love it

What sources u using

Came here to help myself with learning spanish. I was actually semi-fluent as a very young kid but never kept the habit, my pronunciation is still pretty good though.

I just eller up after 11 hours and I can't believe this thread survived

Go to vacation in Spain

Woke*, thanks keyboard :^)

For online, Duolingo(Very useful) and other podcasty or YouTube type videos can help.
I also go to weekly Irish classes, free ones scattered throughout Northern Ireland where I live.

>not staying up all night keeping it alive
get on my level :^)

Being an American there are tons of Spanish speaking people here, so it would be pretty cool to be able to understand/talk to them.

Repeatedly kill yourself until you eventually get reincarnated as native speaker

Same for me. I really like the consistency Spanish has to it also.

You're assuming reincarnation happens. We don't have any evidence to suppose it does.

Another flaw in your method is that after I kill myself the first time I won't remember the original plan when I reincarnate.

What's the "conditional" in "conditional sentences" mean?

if A then B

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No, I mean to ask why is it called that, not what is it.

Im thinking about learning another romance language, I know french because Im a Québecois but which one should I learn im thinking about either spanish or italian.

Because whether B is true is conditional on A being true.
Being motivated is nice and can help you through some more difficult shit, like starting out. But motivation has a tendency do fluctuate. What you really need long-term is discipline.
Shit.

>Conditional sentences are sentences expressing factual implications, or hypothetical situations and their consequences.

>They are so called because the validity of the main clause of the sentence is conditional on the existence of certain circumstances, which may be expressed in a dependent clause or may be understood from the context.

Can you trivialize it for me? I can't understand anything at all. I'm sorry.

It is a condition. Like when people say 'Under one condition'

Mission Objective (condition given to you):
Secure the Red Key Card

Once done, you will be given a new mission.

Complete the CONDITION, you will gain the RESULT of getting another mission. If you do not meet the CONDITION, then the RESULT will not happen.

conditional = Limited by a condition (điều kiện)
conditional = Stating that one sentence is true if another is.

in "if I drink coffee at night, I don't sleep well"

"I don't sleep well" happens if the condition of "I drink coffee at night" happens

"I drink coffee at night" is the condition for "I don't sleep well" to happen

I hope "điều kiện" is the correct translation for condition kek

>page 8

Can someone explain me why the verb "buy" goes with gerund in this phrase? which is the grammatical rule who applies here:

He brought this bussiness man who's interested in buying cheese