"Nationalism makes you take pride in things you haven't done and hate people you've never met".
You can talk about how much stuff and accomplishments your country or race has done but you still didn't do any part of it, and you were just luckily born there.
Just think if you were born in a different country other than yours, wouldn't you be defending your country here all the time and talk shit about the countries that are enemies of that country?
wow, this post changes everything. Let's flood the west with sub 70 iq somalis
Sebastian Scott
This is basically correct.
This is an example of what we want to avoid but what we all are.
Owen Moore
I want every african negro to travel across the ocean to your spider shithole and put a tent right next to your house
Hudson Wright
Fuck off, kike.
Jose Rogers
You don't even need to think outside of the west to see this. Think if you were British for example, you wouldn't go around praising France or America, and you wouldn't defend them in every internet forum or think that their achievements are better than yours.
Ayden Hall
Nothing wrong with being proud of your country or culture, being proud of your skin colour is autistic and gay though.
Leo Foster
>Nationalism is a political, social, and economic system characterized by the promotion of the interests of a particular nation, especially with the aim of gaining and maintaining sovereignty (self-governance) over the homeland. The political ideology of nationalism holds that a nation should govern itself, free from outside interference and is linked to the concept of self-determination. Nationalism is further oriented towards developing and maintaining a single national identity based on shared social characteristics, such as culture and language, religion and politics, and a belief in a shared and singular history.[1][2] Nationalism, therefore, seeks to build a national cultural identity, by way of pride in national achievements, and is closely linked topatriotism, which, in some cases, includes the belief that the nation should control the country's government and the means of production.[3] You're only criticizing one aspect of nationalism among others. Pride in national achievements is highly subjective as you demonstrated, but I don't see what's wrong with that. Nationalism is also about securing a nation for your people, and that's something that we need in Europe when historical ethnic groups are seeing their nations flooded with immigrants.
Jaxon Bailey
can you explain the difference between iberians settling france in the 19th century and algerians today?
Brayden Hall
I agree that nationalism can be good sometimes for uniting people, but its also the reason we see many conflicts between countries today.
people from different countries will say "we are the best, the other side is wrong" and will never use logic to resolve conflicts and instead go into war to prove which country is "superior". This is why we had wars like WW1 in the first place.
Though what you said was correct I probably didn't consider other aspects of nationalism much rather than just pride in a nation.
Asher Sanders
Both were a bad thing
Dominic Smith
so the iberians objectively made france worse? what would be the best time in french history to you
Lucas Nguyen
I think the point is that immigration has been long going in europe for more than thousands of years. You cant tell a difference between an ethnic iberian living in France right now and a native French person.
They usually get blend with the rest of society by time and more than thousand years of immigration and population changes prove that.
Easton Lopez
So by that logic when anyone dies their wealth should be distributed equally amongst everyone. Bob Marley's family didnt popularize reggae so they shouldnt receive a dime over me for his record sales. So no one would spend any effort trying to improve their lives past a net worth of maybe 1M. Why bother inventing anything if your kids wont enjoy the wealth? Lets backtest that model. Boom. You just eliminated Bell, Tesla, Einstein, Ford, basically any inventor from the industrial revolution. So cars never happen. Ok so we'd still be an agrarian culture where no one would pursue any risk/reward. No one would feel any belonging to anything, great utopia unlocked!
"Nationalism makes you take pride in things you haven't done and hate people you've never met, and that makes you a bad goy and you need to be punished".
You can talk about how much stuff and accomplishments your country or race has done but you should just let a bunch of 3rd world trash into your nation and don't bat an eye as they rape your women, murder your children, and genocide your people and country as the murder-wing of the elite.
US murder rate is lower than it was 50 years ago dumb Jow Forumstard.
Ryan Murphy
probably because by this point half of the population is in prison
James Sanchez
Conversely, leftism teaches you to love people you've never met and scorn all the achievements of your ancestors in favour of nose-picking third worlders
Oliver Diaz
>and you were just luckily born there. no such thing as luck the world didn't begin with my birth and it doesn't end with my death the reason i am alive is because my parents decided to fuck, thats it just because i didn't get a choice about the place where i live doesn't mean there was no choice involved the reason i'm in this country is because my great great great grandfather made the choice to be a thief and got caught and deported and that choice has long lived consequences
Henry Rogers
This
Jayden Powell
The thing is, nationalism is just a pipe dream in the modern world. Unless you want to live in North Korea where life is objectively shit. Every nation is dependent on other nations for their continued growth and economic stability, and having these relations is impossible without having to agree on compromises and a common set of play rules, and at that point is the nation actually completely autonomous or are foreign powers influencing their politics?
Matthew Clark
Kys.
Joshua Ward
Stop mixing up nationalism and patriotism
Benjamin Price
Nationalism, religious sectarianism, etc etc are all products of people getting hung up on labels.
While I do understand that nationalism is the basis of all modern-day nations and gives said nations' citizens an identity, it's just a tool in this day and age desu.
