Socialism is good

why I had to clarify it? because you seemed to not know what socialism is, so I explained it to you.

Comrade

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>socialism is good
Incorrect.
>nation states are a retarded concept
True
>why are you not an Jow Forumsernationalist?
Because post-national neoliberalism is the best ideology.

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>not understanding the tribal nature of humanity

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what "delusional propganda" are you talking about?

what makes you think I don't understand it?

>please depress my wages and destroy any semblance of trust and institutional quality my country has
not really your concern when you and your ilk are the ones doing the immigrating though you parasite

Marxism

>Not being a patriotic socialist

socialism wants to abolish wages.
try not to argue about things you don't know shit about.

ok, what delusional propaganda? and why is Marxism wrong?

But socialism was never the same things as marxism.
Marinetti, Corradini, D'Annunzio, Sorel. I'm sure you know these names... Look into strasserism and the Völkisch Movement, which is basically the predecessor of the NatSoc party

>Because post-national neoliberalism is the best ideology.
megacringe

>parasite
Capitalists are free to hire whomever they want, you dumb commie. Funny how the mustard race suddenly becomes leftie when muh "parasitic" immigrants take "your" jobs.

>mass migration of low skill workers doesn't depress wages
lol

>Capitalists are free to hire whomever they want, you dumb commie
neoliberals have been in a functional alliance with communists and socialists against the working and middle classes for decades, we know

>But socialism was never the same things as marxism.
jesus christ just look up the definition of socialism already.
>Marinetti, Corradini, D'Annunzio, Sorel. I'm sure you know these names... Look into strasserism and the Völkisch Movement, which is basically the predecessor of the NatSoc party
yes, I know about them, but the people that took power in the fascist movements were not socialists.
Hitler and his minions for example purged the Nazi party of socialists as soon as he could (the night of the long knives)

>mass migration of low skill workers doesn't depress wages
look at this retarded strawman.
keep it up, retard.

>t. mad because I lost my job to a smarter harder working foreigner

Yet you are the one who whines about muh depressed wages because capitalists hire whoever benefits them the most. Thinking you have a say on a contract between a business owner and a worker is literally commie-tier no matter how much mental gymnastics you make.

>jesus christ just look up the definition of socialism already.
Who defined it?
>yes, I know about them, but the people that took power in the fascist movements were not socialists.
If you think that socialism and marxism means the same thing, then yes, you're right. But remember that the first socialists were not agains't private property. See utopian socialism.

The Communist Manifesto for example.

no strawman whatsoever

socialism doesn't work because:
>1) Prices are an information system that tells people what they need to do to satisfy the needs of others.

>2) Without prices it is impossible for humans to plan the production of complex goods.

>3) Without prices people cannot have the information needed to have the incentives to engage in productive activity.

>4) any attempt to use computers and static means of production would be forced in to autarkic production (a need to be totally self sustaining) by relative decrease in productivity, followed by constant impoverishment (See Cuba).

>It does not work outside of the family, and only works within the family, because of parental dictatorship, and our instincts for consanguineous cooperation and care-taking.

Because it doesn't work or leads to tyranny. The Finnish mixed model is the best system. Finland should rule the world

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>Who defined it?
imagine being this retarded.
what do you think it means? show me source for a definition that fits what you think it means.
>If you think that socialism and marxism means the same thing, then yes, you're right.
listen, you clearly don't know what you're talking about, you don't know what socialism is and you don't know what Marxism is either, stop mentioning them as if you did know.
>remember that the first socialists were not agains't private property. See utopian socialism.
see, you're an idiot, Utopian Socialism is the abolition of private property but done peacefuly, the owners of the means of production just give them up to the workers.
you made me insult you, that's how dumb you are.

Based, Jow Forums is retarded. Marx is absolutely based and his criticism of Capitalism is as sharp and thorough as it could be. Most of the population is working class and if not working we're wannabe entrepreneurs that don't want to wagecuck for someone else. There should be more worker coops, organisation and leftist movements. Too bad that the liberal establishment has coopted the left and confuses the masses with idpol. Workers of the world rise up.

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and what does the communist manifesto say that is "delusional"?

The modern left has become a joke though. You guys need another Stalin.