Realistically, what will the future look like for this country?

Delusional

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Kijev

Some parts join EU, some parts join Russia or become Moldova 2

no such country

We're seeing a scramble for ukraine. Foreign lobbies are picking the choice industries for themselves or to sell off.
Example: Joe Bidens (ex vice president of the US under Obama) son was put on the board of one of ukraines energy board.
Products are being sold to ukraine at absorbent prices. Like gas - bought from russia by EU, then sold at a higher price to ukraine.
Predatory loans are being made to ukraine.
State military and police are being contracted out. Ukraines police are being trained and outfitted from the US.

Ukraine will be pillaged, and privatized to foreigners.
Since ukraine is a prime proxy state against russia, no independent or true nationalist government will be allowed.
Country will get poorer. But maybe those owning the country might make an effort to see it stabilize and get richer (more money) in the future.
Perhaps oligarchs will get greedy and try to retake the country for themselves. And they may be weak enough that we can see honest citizens take back control from them.
But thats like 50yrs into the future.

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>Foreign lobbies are picking the choice industries for themselves or to sell off.

Yeah, as if their commie inefficient and obsolete industry was worth anything

do you understand that it's a parody, not the original photo?

they are getting landlocked and will be ruled by a neo facist goverment

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Thats bullshit - every hohol speak russian.

yeah but i think the picture refers to the people who are actually using it in their daily live.

We should annex it...and launch an invasion of Russia from there.

can't argue with that logic

and finish the war before winter...

Based Russian, saying it how it is.

Give it 20 years and it will be a growing economy like Poland

I'm an American living in Ukraine.

This country is beautiful, the people are beautiful, the food is the best I've ever had, the coffee is the fantastic, and while things are poor they are clean.

Ultimately what you have in Ukraine is a corrupt nation still recovering from the manufacturing implosion following the breakup of the soviet union, still trying to find its place in the world. It has no allies, no defensive pacts, nothing. Poland hates it because of the annexation, Belarus is right up Russia's ass, Russia obviously wants some territory back, Europe sees no place for Ukraine in its union as the Polish already clean the toilets, and China/US could not possibly care less about getting into another Georgian war.

So while Ukraine tries to form tentative relations with Turkey, a potentially worthless ally, you see a unique situation in an otherwise stable world where a very large and populous country is ripe to be torn apart by the vulture desperate for power projection that is Vladimir Putin while the incompetent Poroshenko alienates NATO, exasperates economic situations on eastern provinces by sanctioning Russia, and makes pathetic power grabs in the government -- all while nothing changes for the better in the country.

The plus side is everything is cheap here, and there is a lot of freedom because the government is so weak and preoccupied with continuing-to-exist. That makes life comfy as an expat into free speech movements back home.

Ultimately, I think Ukraine will carry on in its condition for some time. If the next leader is better at securing defensive allies you could see a U.S. presence here and more foreign investment.

>Poland hates it because of the annexation
kek
can't make this shit up

Did you know that Ukraine does not have 4G, and 3G appeared only recently

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Not really, if people here have negative attitudes towards Ukraine then it's because of the Volhynian massacres. Anyway, our government regularly keeps sucking their dicks just to spite Russia.

Always thought everything east of dnieper river should be Russian

Polish*

is there even one neighbouring country that poland doesn't hate/isn't butthurt about for some silly reason?

same here

What have you done that all your neighbours were trying to murder you?

>What have you done that all your neighbours were trying to murder you?
Polish government policies in Volhynia were very discriminatory towards Ukrainians, even though Ukrainians constituted the ethnic majority there. Most historians agree that this was one of the catalysts for the massacres that followed.
Just like what Germany did in Poznań and the surrounding area in Poland earlier, basically.

V4

Russia, as always, lies.

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my phone has 4g lol

people were quite stupid back then

Of course, nothing. The Poles are angels, and the Ukrainians are evil devils who came from hell to do evil and kill innocent Poles

Russians don't have any good in them.

Indeed.
And the butthurt commences.

I'm reminded of a saying, something about how the Jew will tell you what happened to him, but never why.

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Nothing too disastrous will happen to Ukraine without US intervention. We've been playing with kid gloves for a reason, if Russia actually tried annexing large swathes of the country it'd be crushed economically.

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>MTS UKR
>russian interface
reported the zradnyk to SBU

This is my old sim card from 2010.

leave your excuses to the commissar, you pathetic traitor

>If the next leader is better at securing defensive allies you could see a U.S. presence here
I don't think that Russia would ever allow US military presence in Ukraine. If the US started considering this, Russia would pull a second Crimea as a warning, and again no one would really do anything about it, because who wants to die in a nuclear hellfire for the sake of Ukraine?

First try to conquer this garbage. And only then we will talk with comrade commissar.

Ukraine has a really comfy flag, name, and it has aethestic geography. I hope they recover soon but the future doesn’t seem bright

There is already U.S presence in the Baltic state which border Russian territory, I can’t imagine Ukraine would be that far fetched

Do not get me wrong, just curiosity. How is living in Ukraine?

So you're hiding in Novorossia? Sneaky bastard.

No one wanted to die for Czechoslovakia, no one wants to die for Ukraine. History repeats, every man for himself. Sad but true.

The conditions under which the Baltics joined NATO were really different from the conditions now. First of all, the Baltics actually gained their independence through a more or less violent struggle, while Ukraine continued to be a part of the Soviet Union for a couple of years more, and only left the union upon its official dissolution. Second, in 2004, when the Baltics sought Western cooperation, Russia was in a weaker economic position than it is now. Ukraine back then did not attempt to get closer to the West, this had to wait for another 10 years. Also, Russia has traditionally regarded Ukraine as their rightful sphere of influence, due to factors like a shared religion and very similar cultures. If Russia didn't care about Ukraine and who it is affiliated with, they wouldn't have sperged out in Crimea.

What're you doing there? What kind of work do you do?

Sphere of influence is just a made up justification, in short, for oppression. Nothing justifiable.

tbqh most people who are complain are the older, they were born in communism time, so they have other mentallity, from my perspective (22yo) none of my friends does not have against neighbours

I don't know, I think that spheres of influence nowadays are moslty about commerce. The point stands that Russia did not sperg out when the Baltics joined NATO, because it did not want to, but did sperg out in the case of Ukraine.

>Of course, nothing. The Poles are angels, and the Ukrainians are evil devils who came from hell to do evil and kill innocent Poles

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You have to go back, Janusz.

Like Coldomor

i think the russians are going to wage war during the winter months. probably around christmas or new years eve