What should Australia do to increase our power level and the amount of influence we have on the world?

>and collectively decide to care about life
Huh?

Australia seems comfy, why would you want to change it

We should sell it to China, then annex it

I don't care about comfiness I want power

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Most of Australia, at least outwardly, doesn’t seem to have any grandiose ideals, an “Australian” dream so to speak

They tried to meme it on us, some slogan like Australia is for giving everyone a fair go like if we’re America.

That's true. The only thing people seem to want to achieve is their own little mini-mansion in some random suburb 30 minutes away from anything. There's no vision

1)Take over New Zealand like what the Federation originally wanted

2)turn the middle of Australia into a wild west

Not trying to justify a sociopathic rat race by shrouding it in mysticism isn't the same thing as not caring. Rather, we care so about others so that sort of glorified dog eat dog world barbarity isn't looked upon in a good light.

How old are you guys?

join canada in a pincer attack on the united states. we (codename beavers) attack from the north, you (codename wombats) from the south. We send the chinks and pajeets in as wave 1 to die in the initial hellfire leaving DC to be taken by the whites.

I’m the first reply, and I’m 20 my friend group just want to camp in the bush or on Frasier when they aren’t doing Uni

suck abo dick

>codename beavers
>codename wombats
What's even the point of using codenames, why not just say codename Canadians and codename Wombats, you dumbass.

Why is age relevant?

You're on the right track
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You don’t get it, it’s the concept of being able to achieve the impossible as individuals that encourages people to not only succeed but also make the attempt to in the first place. Have a culture that revolves around working hard and completely believeing that you CAN make regardless of if you can encouraged people to be something more than what they are. I wouldn’t expect a foreigner to comprehend that

stop being cunts

>you CAN make it***

Annex all the tiny pacific islander countries, most of them would be grateful to become Australian citizens anyway

no one invited you faglet. go suck your queen's tits before I send Balraj to throw acid in your face you crumpet eating hermione.

Maybe try not being such an utter brainlet next time.

>Be known for being waaaAAAAaaacky Bruces!
>Be known for shitposting a lot
>Be known for wild animals
>Complain about the lack of relevance

Shut the fuck up, Bruce. You're already in the top 3 as it is, alongside America and the UK.

I'm talking about the real world not the meme world.

No, YOU don't get it. Americans are a victim of their own propaganda.
Have a fucking look at Australia. It is a giant hot spanse fringed with water. We cut through mountains to make highways, converted harsh bush to farmland, turned swampland into a thriving capital city, weathered endless droughts and against all the odds in just a handful of years we have shaped this great land into a powerful modern developed nation.
Meanwhile Americans have sold their souls to corporations and allow themselves to be treated like chattle under the selfish delusion that anyone can achieve anything if they step on enough heads on the way up the ladder.
Australia has a hard yakka culture and while our efforts have been great, so have our achievements.
Maybe if Americans actually cared about life they would spent less on ensuring billionaires controp all the wealth while people are left without a social safety net. Americans have no comprehension of freedom or what a person is capable of. All you have is propaganda, poverty, homelessness, a raging drug epidemic and the largest wealth disparity in the modern world. The achievers are the extreme minority because that is the way your sociopathic rat race is designed and controlled.

Yanks have no self awareness.

Oh, well, I know how to increase your real life relevance, but I don't know how to increase your real life influence

Increase population whilst remaining white. Divert more eastern rivers to the interior and Murray-Darling Basin. Either create new states to build up new cities or use the federal government to spearhead the building of new cities.

Why build up interior cities instead of coastal? If we keep them in a nice straight line then eventually we'll get high speed rail

You can do both. Currently Australia is a huge exporter of food, and further greening of the interior would provide even more food for a growing Australian population whilst making us Asia’s breadbasket too. That alone would bring us lots of influence over countries importing food and provide jobs and wealth for ourselves.

Aren’t those all shit and wastes of public money to support as the locals are all on the dole and you’ll need to maintain public services for most of the larger islands even if their tax base can’t support it

now is the perfect time to sieze power

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We need to tell the yanks to get fucked and become our own independent nation

America must leave. Bejing are new best friend. China rise very peaceful!

>a growing Australian population whilst making us Asia’s breadbasket too.

Unless you guys plan to going to specialized or niche shit you will have tough competition since Asia can provide for itself.

Make more Crocodile Dundee movies

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>implying Canberra isn't still a massive swamp

10k upvotes my friend

Australia is already exporting billions worth of agricultural goods to Asian countries.I think much of it is meat, dairy products, wines, sugar, plus fruits and vegs that are out of season in the Northern Hemisphere. Much of it may well be supplementary to Asian produce but it's very valuable to regional Australia's economy. Demand for meat, dairy, wines etc will rise as Asians keep getting richer. Wool, cotton and leathers are also big agricultural exports to Asia that compliment meat exports.

Diversity is stenkth! Immigrate five million niggers!

>switch focus, at least a little bit, from exporting our resources to investing in our own infrastructure
>population is vastly spread and more connections and cut travel times will improve productivity and cities would likely boom
>still export of course but just ramp up infrastructure improvements, high speed rail, better connectivity, etc, etc

>a very weird export that we have is high quality education, people seem to be flocking to our country to study at our universities
>we shouldn't be too laxxed on who/how many people we let through, but keep the quality and prices high and encourage successful people to participate in Australian research
>this keeps the innovation here which would be main driver of economic activity

Really we need some sort of new industry, maybe lead the world in solar or renewables - WA is having a frenzy over lithium. Perhaps we should be using our solid education to make our own little silicon valley.

At the moment our agriculture sector is doing okay, with a lot of farmers embracing technology, and with low powered '''''IoT''''' devices becoming hugely accessible we're making farming a lot more efficient. Mining/energy is taking a similar turn, putting sensors onto all the things to optimise and even attempt to automate offshore operations.

However, we need something new and big that we can all rally behind. We have too much space, a lot of it is fucking nowhere near close to farmable, and barely liveable - not to mention how sparse our population is across our vast area.

What do we do when we have a bunch of pretty much useless fucking land, and everyone in the world seems to have what they need?

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move the capital to brisbane

The real market for Australian goods is the simple fact its very high quality and the produce itself is kept to some fairly strict regulations on how its produced, grown, fertilised, vaccinated, drenched etc, etc- which all flows down to a relatively tight set of industry standards of what is fit for consumption. Stuff grown in SE Asia and China is a fucking nightmare, I'm not even kidding on that and anyone living there knows just how fucking sketchy their produce is.
Given the choice between something like their own local beef or lamb, dairy products, vegetables, seafood or even something seemingly inconsequential like an organic vitamin supplement, or, buying something from Aust or NZ. They will generally pay the little extra if they can because they know its not some kind of gutter oil, skinned cat or el doggo that fell in the pot.

>tough competition since Asia can provide for itself.
Chinese don't trust Chinese grown food, and they are quickly polluting all of their arable land anyway.
We export 80~90% of all food grown here, with the majority of that going to Asia.

I like this, and it's definitely what keeps our agriculture industry thriving. However, what else do you think we can do? I know we're obviously improving efficiency within he industry, and there's still room to expand, but we won't see HUGE growth there.

Unless we're planning on terraforming all our shit land into something useable, which on a large scale could fuck a lot of things up - what will we do?

Not criticising anything, because I'm 110% in agreement, but just pushing for ideas/thoughts because I'm fucking stumped tbqh

Improve your education a ton. It falling behind fast.

But what if they do begin trusting it or Chinese quality control does a massive jump in quality check. Then what?

if you can figure out how to make central australia NOT a desert that would be a big start.

Nickel and diming customers with fraudulent products and outright lying about everything else is the backbone of Chinese business culture, if they fixed quality control they would be rejecting the vast majority of produce. Chinese people understand this better than anyone else, which is why NZ and Aus products are so popular, especially in the middle class.

Not strictly related to food, but the same shit happens in the steel industry

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Our public education in primary and high school seems to be utter shit (I think) because we don't really have a culture that respects and values education. I've heard a few stories of people who'e been in the public system their whole life, not trying or doing anything productive because it wasn't "cool" but then went into the private system for like a year and then suddenly it wasn't so uncool to actually be getting decent grades. The student's parents who are paying good money for them to be there are obviously pushing them to do well.

It really would require a large cultural shift imho to get us to respectable levels. Public primary/high school are for the most part just 18 year drop off daycare centres for meth'd out parents.

Our university sector is actually quite competitive and one of our large exports to foreign students - only getting larger too.

Name one big Australian company

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As a farmer the biggest problems I see in the industry are-
>risk analysis and future proofing
>agility in production

Once you start adopting the process of not being stuck in one particular form of production, or accepting the fact there will be some seasons where you've got to downsize/not produce, then you can look at other things your capable of doing in the meantime when there's a downturn, drought or some other factor in there. Essentially- smarter farmers.
We are getting there though with the newer, better educated generations that are coming into the industry but for a lot of years we sort of got stuck in a rut where generations just followed the previous and didn't look to expand, manage their land/water and get the big dick of financial ruin.

From the government I'd like to see some industry evolution in terms of getting our products overseas with better trade deals with other countries. At the moment its kind of hard to make a buck with some customers due to distance and it'd be good to see a lot more local industry involved in processing and exporting as well

BHP
Rio Tinto

Muh minerals

this is only a question for NON-Australians

>we can't

What did you call me cunt?

Those are unknowns to the rest of the world

Can't help you're a brainlet

you should have voted right during the referendum, you dumb brit slave cunt

Your personal ignorance isn't an argument

invest in nuclear, cut china off from our coal

maybe take back control of your land from the chinese

I'm at University studying Data Science, and actually come from a farming family too (south west wheatbelt). Obviously a biased opinion but getting as many temperature readings out into your fields, with humidity sensors (and any other quality measures you can get) in the soil seems like it could lead to some solid information. Not just help with quality management but you might even be able to get early indicators of bad conditions (risk management I guess). Along with forecasting for a variety of other measurements, all just relies on the quality of the data provided really.

I think companies are charging an arm and a leg for what are essentially a network of LoRa modules with sensors attached to them - and then probably proprietary software that goes along with them too. Shouldn't be expensive by any means.

I'm surprised the government hasn't taken steps to streamline the export process seeing as it's a main economical contributor?

Just b urself
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Mire shirtposting lmao

I've started playing EU4. Very much looking forward to colonising a Welsh Australia

Build up your own mega corporate that deals in opium and wreck nations turning them into consumers.

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There is a fair bit of warning when it comes to unseasonable weather conditions, but for some reason we don't seem to be able to get a lot of people to actually bloody listen to it, or if they do know then they just seem to bumble into the fucking mess anyway!
So maybe there really needs to be a bit more adult education in place where landowners can look at some kind of centralised course online, or do it by mail, tafe or whatever: Some meteorology, bit of modern business management and then throw in some alternative agricultural practice which isn't snake oil like ostrich farming or other means of getting the most out of the land. Or- getting the most out of your time so that if your primary income is threatened you can fall back on a secondary until better conditions

In terms of export, lot of it is covered by middle men which really chops into profits and the real problem we've seen over the last 20 years is the flip-flopping nature of trade relations where you can literally wake up one morning and then [major export partner country] has decided to slap tariffs on everything because of a bad new story, their tinpot emperor is offended by our tinpot PM or they're just being polemic for some reason or another.
That kind of dynamic really makes it hard to find a stable market. I mean you 'can' navigate your way through it all, but its time spent having to constantly doing it and there's only so many hours in a day.

Why has Northern Australia never been developed? There must be a good few normal sized countries worth of decent land in that area. Plenty of rainfall and rivers. It is humid but people live in humid areas all over the world.

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Well historically Indonesia had extremely fertile soil and Northern Australia's soil is dogshit, so there was no incentive for them to settle. When colonisation happened the southern land was preferred because the temperate climate makes crop growing so much easier. There's a lot more to it than just water supply. It *could* be developed but the benefits are outweighed by those of settling in the south

give me citizenship and teach me your accent

I can understand the reasoning behind European arrivals opting for Victoria or NSW over NT. But why nowadays are we not developing this land? Surely there must be some crops up there that could be grown for export.

Frick off and fix your own dang country instead of trying to ruin mine, thirdie.

britain is unfixable but fine, be that way. you're gonna regret this, i'm gonna find somewhere equally good and you're gonna be so jealous.
...HEY! NEW ZEALAND! can i come stay with you?

Why the fuck do you have to? Why can't you just be this comfy, stable country you are?

We need to be strong enough to protect ourselves. British Empire is gone, America is becoming a black country and Asia is rising rapidly.

wtf

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There are and they did a lot of tests around the Ord river area especially but it was very unprofitable. Look into the Ord River irrigation scheme if you want to see why. It's still a thing but they grow niche things like sandalwood. Tropical agriculture is difficult

They're meant to be building a big prawn farm up that way

The Asia-Pacific region is a battleground between opposing ideologies, with China on one side and Australia on the other. There are multiple players but we're the only real serious ones. Everywhere else is either isolationist or still trying to get their shit together. If we don't strive to extend our influence and set the region on the right path it will be used and abused by China like some cheap whore. Australia will be the guiding light which pulls 500 million people into the democratic and free developed world.

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