Establish insanely extensive welfare state without the aid of a virtually infinite treasury like the nordic countries

you never fight
you never help
you are american 5th column
you are the jew
you are too stupid to become rich
you are the scourge of the nation

He's a racist sexpat I think. Or maybe, may God forgive me for saying this word, a cr*Ollo.

t. James Chang

>virtually infinite treasury like the nordic countries

The guck are you talking about you dumb monkey?

They've been robbed enough by the rich by being exploited, I'd say. They'll be fine if they keep on fighting, if they stop they'll be punished servants once again.

A worker's revolt?

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commie retards

it's not "exploitation" if it's a mutually agreed and mutually beneficial financial transaction. Capitalists provide capital infrastructure, job stability, marketing, etc for the worker to even be able to work. Their alternative is to go out on their own for which they would need all of that to survive.

The LTV is a meme and it shows how religiously devoted Marxist "economists" are to preserving a century old ideology despite all the logical problems with it

True "communism" is post scarcity and will never, ever happen. Instead you will be stuck in a single party dictatorship "transition" state that in fact accelerates towards post scarcity much slower than their capitalist counterparts (North Korea) until it collapses (USSR) or goes back to capitalism but this time under even shittier rules and a totally corrupt government (China, Vietnam)

Yes, but there is also a need for a greater infection in the governing system itself.

ok, you're 16yo

ok, you're 5 years old

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>Capitalists provide capital infrastructure, job stability, marketing, etc for the worker to even be able to work.

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hahahaha funny coming from a country ruined by corrupt bureaucratic socialism

time to fuck off back to Jow Forums underage bitch

t. kike

>hahahaha funny coming from a country ruined by corrupt bureaucratic socialism
Socialism has nothing to do with the Greek corruption

lmao how can one be that stupid

notice how you didn't even try to dismantle any of my arguments?

notice how you're defending a 120 year old religion that has directly resulted in the deaths of millions?

Your ideology is worse than Nazism and far more dangerous

this. There's no prosper country without a middle class

>retarded posts but still not a logical defense of the LTV or Marxian economy

how's life in kekistan?

move to North Korea, rural China or Cuba melenchon drone

thanks.

corruption isn't what killed your economy. Voting for endless free shit at the expense of the real economy is.

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>implying I'm going to waste my time debunking an inforgaphic posted by an underage Jow Forums nigger

Not a chance

>virtually infinite treasury
The what now?

this lmao, mutts are so fucking stupid

Because you can't. Capitalist SEZs has lifted millions out of poverty in China alone. In Cuba the tiny slice of free market jobs are the best ones. youtube.com/watch?v=n-mUZRP-fpo

What infographic are you talking about you imbecile?
His point was that LTV, the basis of Marxian economy, and consequentally, of Marxism (since it's a materialist philosophy) is retarded bullshit that has failed to predict market movements since its inception, and whose all of their makers like Ricardo or Adam Smith ended up rejecting when they realized how flawed it was. All except Marx, of course, because self-criticism is anathema to marxism.

This is beyond capitalism, ideology or random infographs, it's historic evidence.

I hope they protest more because its fun to watch. Yesterday there were lasers and fireworks it looked so cool

>hurr you have to be underage to not think having a violent revolution against rich people and democratic institutions and establishing a single party dictatorship that controls 100% of the economy and creates a permanent political class will lead us into automated luxury communism despite a track record of complete failure!

>self-criticism is anathema to marxism.
this is the wildest, weirdest claim I've ever heard

>virtually infinite treasury like the nordic countries
what could monkey user possibly mean by this?

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poltards fuck off back to your poltard board

We're the same

left: you
right: religious economic cultism inspired by ignorant hatred of successful people

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They've been exploited because the top earns way too much. I don't want communism, I want working people to just stand up for themselves.

>His point was that LTV, the basis of Marxian economy, and consequentally, of Marxism (since it's a materialist philosophy) is retarded bullshit that has failed to predict market movements since its inception, and whose all of their makers like Ricardo or Adam Smith ended up rejecting when they realized how flawed it was. All except Marx, of course, because self-criticism is anathema to marxism.

Every fucking cunt on this board thinks so and so do I
That's entirely unrelated to the topic but our mutt friend here cannot comprehend that lower/middle class people rioting isn't about marism, communism or socialism.
Which is why I'm telling him he's a kid who's not hald as smart as he thinks he is, posting random articles and youtube videos claiming those as his "arguments".

Now if you don't get that you can go fuck yourself as well

Fuck the poor, fuck the rich, fuck the elite, fuck commies, fuck fascists, fuck socialists, fuck capitalists. Most importantly, fuck Fr*nchoids.

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why did you quote me ? fuck off to pol you poltard

fuck liverpoop

That's reasonable

wow your SOOOOO mad

You need to stop simplifying entire ideologies to just a few opinions of yours, user

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fuck off back to pol where your digression will please retards there

This is based beyong imagination

Just a mix of disdain, contempt and disgust
Don't worry though, I'll have forgotten about you soon enough

left: impotent commie rage
right: you

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youre a retard pol and a degenerate one, god bless dat soul

and what do poor people understand besides fucking like monkeys and robbing?

>what do poor people understand
tell us you're by far the poorer here

too many assets

What is it with degenerates being so right wing?
2/3 of Jow Forums would probably have been gassed back in the day

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Welfare is just pennies on the budget. Without it you'll have army of shoplifters and robbers.

People suck at every level. Poor people who becomes rich usually are the worst

Yeah, I guess that's why frenchfags pay almost 50% of their income on taxes

Pretty sure its not all welfare. I think Scandinavia has more gibs

Countries like Norway and Denmark are just too rich. They could spend literally centuries on a budget deficit without going broke

>MUH TACKSES R TOO DAMN HIGH
nigger tier

oil and low population I guess

>let me educate you about something i know nothing about
yeah don't

Depends on what you lump into welfare.

the last time we burned cars and made our capital a war zone was before this century, who's the monkey here?

Norway, maybe.
Denmark has a pretty low public debt, but they don't have the insane 1 trillion dollar oil fund Norway has.

seewithout the middle class there is no country

4 billion on child benefits and housing benefits alone isn't pennies by no means. Probably there's another 4 billion but that's something I van remember of the top of my head.

Without it you could have lower taxes and more jobs.

you're the monkey, the laughing stock of all eu countries for being that poor

you call us monkeys when this happens in your country.

even the worst neighbourhood here is more peaceful than that.

This
In no circumstances should a political system idealize any of its classes

he's retarded
racism really did a number on new world non-whites

My income does not exist out of nothing, it exist only in a particular system of production and in a particular social organization.

Money is only a right I have on the work of others in a system of production ; without it, it does not exist.

solid cringepost, but cut down on the repetitiveness and say something fresh

this, also hate how the middle class here are so fucking materialistic and then complain that they cant retire because they spent money on a huge house and many cars and shopping weekly for useless shit

it's peaceful but poor af, stay sat and calm you'll never walk further

4 billion is literally 0.2% of french annual GDP

I'm sorry to butt in your conversation but isnt Uruguay that extremely poor cattle driving country with almost 6 times the murders per capita of France?

upper middle class is the true master race, not to rich to be a globalist jew and not to poor to be retarded and spend money like a retard

>it's not "exploitation" if it's a mutually agreed and mutually beneficial financial transaction.
You must be joking.
>Their alternative is to go out on their own for which they would need all of that to survive.
Not really. In most countries you can't really abandon your life, go to the forest, burn some woods, start cultivating something and create your own house.

French welfare model has to be destroyed. It's the only way.

Those were numbers from Finland's budget.

Yes. He's just jealous

why are all libertarians furries or bronies?
is it the autism?

Civil servants are the true master race.
Useful to everyone
Guaranteed regular income
Steady career advancement
Enough leisure time to study Hegel and Pascal
Not slaves to the desires of some capital owners
Not slaves to their own desires

>virtually infinite treasury like the nordic countries
You wot mate? Its norway only

Yep

we have 7 deaths in crime rate per 100.000 hab, 3 points are commited inside jails, the other 3 points are commited between drug gangs and the point left is the real crime rate of ordinary people.

No im pretty sure it was corruption and US interference.

All I heard is "a-actually its 7 times"

Unironically based

Actually it has to be pushed further
And this is not even a matter of opinion anymore
Each year we need lesser hands to produce the same amount of wealth
The current production system is in an endless superproduction crisis now
And we're still on the XIXth century conception that unemployment rates are a problem?

Employment is the problem,
we need guaranteed salary for life starting adulthood,
we need retirement to start at 18yo
And of course, we need to forbid anyone to earn more in a month than ten times what is earn by the poorest of our citizens

Maybe gas price increases would be less of a problem if all you assholes worldwide would stop fucking driving SUVs and trucks all the time.

Based and banlieu pilled walah

Democracy is repulsive.

Based Guatamala. you should come here, man