Redpill me on Japanese history ?
Why were they an irrelevant and insignificant island until the early 20th century ?
Redpill me on Japanese history ?
Jaxon Roberts
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Jonathan Garcia
constant civil war and political instability
Oliver Phillips
Why were feudal Japs so bad at managing their own country ?
Christian Howard
were feudal Japs bad at managing their own country?
Landon Long
Why do you still have the inferiority complex towards Japan?
It's already in the 21th century.
Dominic Mitchell
a policy of seclusion
Dominic Mitchell
Noah Reed
They were a large sized country for most of their existence. They didn’t really have a need to expand and if they wanted to they’d run into China which is far more powerful and the chinese and japanese squared off multiple times. The mountainous and fertile nature of the country makes it difficult to hold together because warlords can easily spin off their own self sustaining territory and evade central government authority. So the government would try to create a situation in which they were hegemonic in the isles and could strike down any opposition if they wanted to. This costs a lot of attention and thus they have little energy to interact much with the outside world or expand much into it. The imjin war was a case were there were far too many warriors in the country that could tear it up again so they had to be sent somewhere else to fight and die.
In the industrial era they had little industrial raw materials so they pretty much had to expand to secure the sea lanes on which these materials are traded to them. Then they went full megalomaniac for a while trying to achieve autarky and now that this failed they rely on america to protect their sea lanes. As long as the central government can control the country and their sealanes are secure Japan is satisfied. That’s why they are worried about Chinese claims in the seas to the South of Japan.
Connor Gonzalez
Constant civil war is usually the result of bad management of the nation
Nathan Miller
>states the truth
>get accused of having inferiority complex
calm your tits
David Hall
Yeah you get invaded by burgers an brits.
Ryder Watson
Don't forget the Meiji Restoration
Camden Murphy
Joseph Edwards
I don't know what that is . Japanese history wasn't taught at my school
Jayden Perry
It looks like japanese have a inferiority complex now.Like,they are being outperformed in any technological sector by south korea
Camden Smith
lol
Nicholas Williams
They had one century of civil war and two other much shorter civil wars but for the most part Japan was a peaceful place compared to the outside world. They were so apart from the outside world that they evaded the black plague.
Ethan Wood
Because they are an irrelevant and insignificant """peoples"""
Jeremiah Barnes
why can't japan admit their war crimes?
Jonathan Wilson
lol , a lot of nations avoided the Black Plague not just Japan
Asher Walker
Is the first contact with European with Portoguese?
Parker Collins
Patents(which is how these things are measured) are not a great measure of innovation because most of the time patents are never used. They are just there as a means of mutually assured destruction where if another company tries to sue you for patent infringement you can sue them back for patent infringement for some random patent you own. This way companies won’t sue each other into the ground. There are a lot of silly things with patents.
Oliver Fisher
i want you
Sebastian Jackson
Only if cute grill sry
Jace Allen
are you from Romandie
Asher Foster
More often than not the places where the black plague was ‘avoided’ turn out to actually have experienced the black plague but they just didn’t document it well or the documents were lost(like in poland). Other times the region was very isolated(like Japan) at the time.
Noah Jenkins
No Svizzera Italiana
Jack Adams
Or maybe the Black Plague just never reached those nations ? (Like the Philippines)
Christian Lee
mamma mia tu es de Ticino!?
Zachary Long
read
>Other times the region was very isolated(like Japan) at the time.
Julian Rodriguez
Philippines was never isolated , it was a bustling trading hub of Asia . Yet no one died of Black Plague
Carson Gomez
Esatto
Jordan Flores
no it wasn’t
Christopher James
Yes it was , just google it .
Asher Morris
mamma mia si io succho il cazzo tuo posso dormire a il cosa tua? no parlo la lingua italiana, only inglese e francese un poco
Mason Ramirez
>just google it lmao
It wasn’t. the black plague didn’t spread to the seas because China didn’t trade much through the oceans back then. It spread inland through the Silk Road. China was a hub of trade in Asia. The Phillipines weren’t, maybe regional trade in the Isles. The interaction they had with China was usually tribute missions.
Asher Carter
Dude , flips traded with Muslims , Chinese , Thais , other SEAs and even Japan and they never got the plague
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Colton Wood
>900 to 1514
>nothing about the period I’m describing
Coincidentally the period this happened in was at the tail end of a downturn in trade and farming of China where they interacted less with the outside world so they didn’t do a lot of seaborne trade. Japan was a pariah at the time because they fought off the mongol invasions so little interaction for them.
Joshua Jones
The Black Plague happened during the 1300s and it was only a problem mainly in Europe . Far Eastern Asia was relatively unaffected , that's why the Philippines were able to trade with the Chinese and Japanese without getting wiped out by the epidemic
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Also the Philippines was indeed a trading hub
>These kingdoms traded with what are now called China, India, Japan, Thailand, Vietnam, and Indonesia.[12]
David Kelly
Before Renaissance and enlightenment:
>huge influence from China in tang and sui to other Asian cunts = no body cares too much about Japan's culture
>be autistic and would never communicate with anyone except Korea the guy that east Asians will kill when they're strong (see China, Mongolia and Japan, all East Asians have controlled them before)
>locates in isolated island with no resources whatsoever hence no chance to do anything
After modernizing:
>qing is still doing drugs even when they're shit already since forever, Korea's still a lapdog of qing, other Asian cunts are being colonized or bullied (see Thai that was made smaller by Europeans, it's basically like China saying we never go colonized after they deny hk, Macao and Taiwan as their clay)
>Japan is the only guy that's doing something right
>gets strong
Pretty much this desu
Hunter Turner
it's because we were busy killing Koreans and Chinese to declare independence
Logan Reed
Yes and the reason it was unaffected was because China was inland focused and had a downturn in trade. That’s what I’ve been saying this whole time. Couple that with Japan being a pariah at the time.
Lincoln Ward
My point is , tons of nations avoided the Black Plague just like Japan , and without the need the of an isolationist policy too
Nathaniel Foster
Japan didn’t have an isolationist policy at the time. They were just a pariah because they defeated the mongol invasion.
Brandon Jones
You literally said in your first post that Japan avoider the plague because they were so apart from the world
Charles Wood
tfw no Japan town in se Asia like chinamen do
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Isaiah Wright
I like Japan because Samurai aesthetic is cool.
Henry Stewart
They were apart from the world because they were a pariah to the mongols and the mongols had conquered all nearby countries
Adrian Wright
I like Japan because Heian princesses make my kokoro go doki doki
Joseph Brooks
Japanese has no inferiority complex at China and other Asian countries.
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Kevin Ward
QUOI DIABLE
Levi Smith
That’s essentially an isolationist policy forced onto them by Mongols .
So they were indeed isolated
Isaiah King
Yes, just like how the other asia pacific countries to the south of china were largely isolated from china at the time. Although Japan was even more isolated(they couldn’t even interact with Korea) but not because they wanted to be isolated.
Michael Martin
美しい
Nolan Rogers
I never said they wanted to be isolated .
Justin Cooper
La maquillage est le Kabuki je crois
Jacob Powell
Big deal man , there was Vietnamese prince that fled to Korea . Now thousands of people in Korea are his descendants .
Sebastian Smith
Mason Allen
WE
Grayson Hernandez
woah... eternal Vietnam BVLL...
>In 1232, an army of the Mongol Empire led by General Sartai launched an attack on Korea by both sea and land. The troops, using the waterways, attacked Hwang-hae but were defeated by the army and the local inhabitants led by Ly Long Tuong.[citation needed] Ly Long Tuong always rode a white horse and as a result, was dubbed the "White Horse General."[citation needed]
>In 1253, the Mongol army led by the great Khan Möngke launched a second attack on Korea. The Yuan-Mongol army, led by Tang Ji, attacked Hwang-hae overland and by using the waterways. Lý Long Tường, although by then over 70 years old, led the army and the local inhabitants to victory after a five-month campaign.[citation needed] As a result of this important triumph, the Korean king renamed Jin-san (Template:Korean=진산) Hwa-san (Template:Korean=화산) and appointed Ly Long Tuong Hwa-san gun (花山君). The location of the Mongol army surrender was called the Gate of Surrender Acceptance (受降門; Su-hang-mun). The Korean king also had a pillar erected here to honour Ly Long Tuong. (The pillar can still be seen today).[citation needed]
>When Lý Long Tường died, he was buried at the foot of Mount Di A near Panmunjeom (板門店).[citation needed] The mountain peak (Kwang-dea) where Lý Long Tường always sat to look southwards and cried is now called the "Peak of Nostalgia" (望國壇).
Matthew Rogers
Isolationist policy implies that they put it into place at their own volition.
Leo Johnson
WUZ
Kevin Rogers
It can also imply that the policy was forced onto them by someone else
Oliver Gray
Sure I guess but that was not really clear to me
Christopher Jackson
They didn't really start interacting with other countries until basically the Renaissance times.
Came very late in the game.
Charles Thompson
are you a retard?
until the early 20th century that saw the advent of the global body and system we have today, everyone was irrelevant to another one, because most countries were autarky not dependent on the trade even if they did. certainly yuros colonized puny shitholes throughout the globe, but that was irrelevant to strong powers like japan. japan's been one of the most powerful countries throughout its existence, so we had luxury of maintaining a comfy semi-isolationist policy as much as we wanted, and once the global colonialism culminated, we joined the game and conquered asia real quick.
Daniel Taylor
>Sengoku Jidai (aka samurais and shit) came in response to the Mongols (which came after Middle ages)
>The Qing dynasty, the last imperial dynasty of china came in response to Hideyoshi's, the one who unified Japan, failed invasion of Korea
>Meiji era, the era were they opened their borders to the world, came as a response to the United states a country created 2 centuries ago
>When Rome, Greece, Egypt, Han China, and Persia were doing their thing Japan didn't even exist
Jonathan Brown
Wtf
Nathaniel Edwards
no animation technology