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Australia
Christmas in the summer time is fucking weird
stop it

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Agreed. Fuck Chr*stmas.

We should instead have a holiday every Friday for prayer in the mosque.

winter is when you stay in bed late and dont go outside much, why would you want any holidays in that time?

Agreed. Winter is perfect for ramadan.

Your turn to argue your point OP.

>O ye who believe! When the call is heard for the prayer of the day of congregation, haste unto remembrance of Allah and leave your trading. That is better for you if ye did but know.
>And when the prayer is ended, then disperse in the land and seek of Allah's bounty, and remember Allah much, that ye may be successful.
It is permissible to work on Jummah(Friday), no need to make it a holiday, but that would be nice.

Aussies must feel weird about singing songs about snow when they've never seen it.

>there's no snow in australia

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It's all desert m8.

I actually do wish Australia flipped it's holiday dates.
It's fucking weird stores putting fake snow on everything and playing "White winter" songs when it's 35C+ outside.
The worst offender is Halloween which 100% just does not work in the middle of Spring. It's not even a religious holiday so there is no reason for it not to be May 29th. If you are going to do Halloween in mid spring, at least do Day of the Dead.

we better not have week long heatwaves this summer i still cant afford to fix the a/c

Unironically most Australians have never seen snow or have only ever seen it once or twice.
The only city that gets snow in Australia is Canberra and these days it only snows like once every 5-10 years in Canberra (though you can drive 30 minutes outside of Canberra and get snow since the city is built in a valley surrounded by mountains which it snows on)

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My uncle's property in north-east Vic snows in summer occasionally.

>stores
>not shops

>thinks "Halloween" is a thing at all and knows about Mexican shit
Fuck off seppo, get off the proxy.

Also hold on what the fuck:
>Halloween
>not a religious holiday

I pray for two months with not a day below 35.

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>Halloween
>not a religious holiday

Unless you're a wiccan it's not a religious holiday.

>all saint's eve isn't religious and doesn't have a fixed date

All Saints' Eve, All Saints' Day and All Souls' Day are a group of holy days. The first of them is also called Halloween. It is a day for remembrance of saints, martyrs and the faithful dead, marked by vigils, prayers and fasting (in preparation for the proper feast day/festival on All Saints' Day).

They're not official christian holidays.
"All Hallows Eve" is at best a folk holiday that some christians threw christian bullshit on top of a Pagan festival. Do you honestly fucking believe the Catholic Church would sanction a holiday where ghosts rise of the dead? wtf.

I went to a Catholic School, was raised Catholic, at no point, was All Hallows Eve ever a thing. It's a fringe thing among eurofag catholics and again, a folk holiday. It's like saying that the french dog is an actual saint.

Even then "All Hallows Eve" the folk event is not in any way Halloween, which is completely, 100% modelled on a pagan event.

Agreed. Friday is funday and thus should be the day of congregation.

Your turn to argue your point Lachlan.

>Halloween which 100% just does not work in the middle of Spring
Is it the amount of daylight or what?

t. does not understand halloween

The trick-or-treat yank rubbish is not Christian, obviously. That's not a thing here.

As an Anglican I know it as an established part of the liturgical practice. You can denigrate that in whatever Romish ways you choose but let's not forget which church it was that promoted belief in the anti-Christian doctrine of demonic/ghostly possession as a way to make money through selling exorcisms.

I suppose next you'll be saying that Christmas and Easter aren't Christian because some customs surrounding them have a heathen past. How could the Romish Church sanction such holidays?!

You don't know what you're talking about.

Christmas in the summer time is amazing.

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>The trick-or-treat yank rubbish
Yikes.

It's something that children here only learn from American television or cinema. It's un-Australian.

Ah yes, they should instead participate in proud Aussie traditions like Sorry Day
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Sorry_Day

The only cities in NZ that snow are Dunedin (on only on the surrounding hills though) and Christchurch, however both snow very rarely, about once a year. So when it comes for snow, kiwis who can't afford to travel to the Southern Alps are no luckier than you guys.

*comes to snow

First I've ever heard of that. Doesn't look like it's even recognised by government (pleasant surprise; usually those scum love pushing this sort of idiocy).

Meanwhile you lot have an entire month for your poor oppressed little pet niggers and a federal holiday for Michael King the fraud and sex-pervert.

Gee, I wonder if all this anti-racist ideology isn't another filthy yank imposition? Figured out why the world hates your country, yet?

Nah because only sandniggers and third worlders hate us.

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How is anti-racism bad? I judge a person individually, not by their racial or ethnic group. I believe judging someone by their race instead of personality is wrong, so would that make me an anti-racist?

America is good at propaganda and at pushing rotten pop-culture and ideologically-loaded narratives through media. Wasn't this the starting point of the discussion: That American insanity and evil has been snuck in where it isn't wanted and doesn't belong?
The only reason anyone puts up with you and your shit is because of economic and military dominance (or did you think it was just a coincidence that there was a strong correlation between your military presence and the numbers on that graph?); everyone is "friends" with the schoolyard bully who will smash their teeth and steal their lunch if they step out of line. The fact is that most people don't like America, regardless of what they say for the nice man asking them questions. They probably also differentiate between "the American people" and "American culture/society/government".

Race and ethnicity are immutable and essential features of man. If you ignore those features then you are ignoring a substantial part of any given man. It's not a matter of "instead of" but "along with". Your simplistic, all-or-nothing thinking is characteristic of someone raised and "educated" in an environment completely saturated with anti-racist/egalitarian ideology. That you use (presumably) moralistic language brings the point home; why is the question not, "Is it inaccurate?"?

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Cringe, no one forces you faggots to slurp down our culture, you do it willingly. You're a complete fuckwit if you honestly think the U.S is "evil" as well and should learn some proper history. Overall very cringe and bluepilled post.

That's not weird.

What's actually weird is celebrating the day of invasion to this landmass and calling it "Australia day" even though it's obviously completely exclusionary to the original inhabitants.

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cringe and melbunpilled

"America" doesn't push their pop-culture, entertainment companies do. The reason why American entertainment is more widespread and successful than anyone elses because the country is friggin massive and isn't a third world shithole like China. (Of course there are third-world parts of America, but on average as a whole America is borderline first/second world).
Also, as said, it is your contemporaries who brought American culture into your country through buying their entertainment. America isn't forcing you to watch bloody Batman with a gun at your head.

Look at the start of the exchange. I said trick-or-treat is stupid American shit that has no place here. Am I wrong?

What's wrong celebrating our invasion and excluding anyone who opposes our invasion? We would have no country if we weren't successful invaders.

Ethnicity and race aren't immutable features of man, they change all the time. If 4channel was around in 6000 B.C.E. Western Hunter Gatherers, Eastern Hunter Gatherers and Near-Eastern Farmers would be posting "La Creatura" and "Dios Mio" memes about Europeans.

Yes I'd say you are considering it's a thing there and my Aussie friend had trick or treaters.

Queenstown is literally a ski resort town you silly cunt

???
What the fuck are you talking about?
I didn't say that the specific ethnicities and races that exist are eternally static.
I said that as features of man, race and ethnicity are immutable.
A Chinaman cannot suddenly, magically become Nigerian; he will always be a Chinaman.

I bet you use the term pakeha

Yes, trick-or-treat is goofy as hell, but it isn't America's fault that Australia gobbled it up. It seems like your angst at particular holidays are through a Christian perspective with an anti-American twist. Try be less biased.

Queenstown isn't a city. :^)

just go with hanuka..

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Yes, of course a race can never magically transform into an existing or extinct race, however a race can transform into a new race through mixing with an existing race sand/or adapting to new conditions. The definitions of race and ethnicity are extremely blurred anyway, nobody can even agree who is "white" or not and nobody can agree whether Latinx is a new race through mixing, just like how Europeans came to be, or not.

*and/or

>living with my YHWH's witnesses relatives
>they don't give a fuck about christmas
This might be the most comfy December of my life

That isn't relevant to my most recent post or really to any part of what was said in the first place.

You are talking about interacting with individual specimens, not any given race as a whole, when you ape Michael King's fuzzy nonsense, right? You want to "judge" some specific man.

Any specific man (as in, one individal member of the species) has a race and an ethnicity. In respect of that specific man, the race and ethnicity cannot change; they are immutable. They are a part of him that cannot go away. Trying to "judge" a man while ignoring his immutable, essential features is like reading a book but skipping random pages; you might get the general idea, but what you are doing is arbitrary and guarantees that you will never get the full idea.

>YHWH's witnesses
>relatives
oh god i'm so sorry

So what are you implying? That I should care about someone's race? How does caring about someone's race give me the full idea of their essential features? Does noticing a guy is Latino give me the innate knowledge that he has a big penis? Does noticing a girl is Asian give me the innate knowledge she has a small vagina? This makes no sense.

it's okay, they don't include me in their shit and under normal circumstances i only meet them once or twice a year

It's ultra comfy though

Acknowledgement of race, ethnicity, sex, age, etc. is necessary but not sufficient for accurate knowledge.

>Necessary
impossible without it

>Sufficient
possible with it alone; other things are not necessary with it
>Not sufficient
impossible with it alone; other things are also necessary along with it (and may be sufficient without it if it is not necessary)

For example:
If you know 9 of 10 things about a man, you don't know everything.
If you know 10 of 10 things about a man, you know everything.

You are saying that you want to deliberately ignore some important features because of ideological beliefs (I can't fathom what justification, if any, has led you to adopt or maintain these beliefs since they are pretty dumb on reflection). I am not saying that paying attention to these features is some magic key that gives you all the knowledge in the universe - that's fucking retarded and I don't know how you took that from any of my posts. I am telling you, in no uncertain terms, that ignoring information reduces the amount of information you have. This is really obvious. I don't know how to put it more clearly.

You should care about race. If you do not care about race, you are ignorant. Just like if you ignored a man's personality or intellect or skills or experiences, you would be ignorant about that man, if you ignore his race or ethnicity, you are ignorant. And if you are doing it on purpose then you are being wilfully ignorant,