a cow costs like €1000 and can produce 20 litres of milk. even at €1 per litre thats €20 a day
thats a very fast break-even period
hay costs about €0,40 per kg and they need about 20kg per day, thats about 8 euros
count in other costs and you get about 75% return on your monthly expenses for housing the cow, milking it, water, its feed (disregarding original cow price)
calculating cow costs per year:
taking about €12 per day of costs per cow costs you about 4500 euros, plus 1000 for the cow, 5500 euros
cow gives you enough milk to profit about €2000 per year
you can also make the meat into 200kg meatloaf and cash out another 1000 euros, bringing the profit to €3000 per year
milking cows is more profitable than mining
is bitcoin mining always going to stay less profitable than milking cows and selling their meat once theyve done their jobs?
>calculating agricultural returns >doesn't include cost of land Please punch yourself in the face very fucking hard and then never ever post again holy shit
Levi Wright
you're forgetting the most important part fren. cows are very cute and intelligent and caring. you will not only have many milkies and euros, you will also make many frens for life.
Connor Wilson
that image... moves me user
Owen Turner
Warren Buffet loves farms and hates bitcoin and gold.
Bentley Watson
Cows are hardly sentient beings. Do you shed tears about the crops you slaughter every year? It is all life. People who give in to their instinctual nurturing side are experiencing a bug in their system, empathy was intended to help your fellow human, not make you weep for the death and discomfort of animals.
Jacob Turner
i eat cow but no way i take care of a cow and kill it to eat it. that cow is family bro.
Luis Barnes
You don't kill it, you ship it live to a slaughterhouse. That's how I've seen it works at least.
Jeremiah Phillips
>plants are as sentient as mammals You can rationalise all you want, but it's impossible to win the moral argument.
Fuck off. I only like animals I don't want to eat and who don't bother me. Fuck those pests, they serve their purpose. What will you do now? Nobody cares for all humans and nobody should care for all animals. Stop acting retarded and grow up. Only thing I agree with your kind though is that eating meat is less healthy than eating vegetables.
Eli Jenkins
How much was your last VET's bill, how much is insurance against the cow catching foot and mouth and no access to the farm for 3 months?
Parker Phillips
Dairy farming is not very profitable. In the US milk needs to be around $26 per hundred weight to break even. Current market prices are around $18. The only way most small farms break even is by offering grass fed and raw milk.
You have no idea what is involved in dairy farms.
Xavier Sanchez
>He's getting triggered because I confront him with the facts S E E T H I N G
If milking cows is such a profitable business, why are most farmers in Europe scraping by to live, often selling at a loss and are highly subsidized? The problem with the milk industry is you have 2-3 big companies forming a cartel that buy it (I.e Lactalis) super cheap and basically rob farmers. Plus, milking cows and meat cows are usually differentiated and their meat price varies greatly. If you are serious about starting a business, please look the other way user
Anthony Powell
If you don't have the balls to slaughter and butcher your own animal and realize where your food actually comes from before it hits your plate you don't deserve to eat meat.
Josiah Cook
>reading comprehension = 0 I don't love all animals.
Colton Sanders
nothing wrong with killing a baby cow
Ayden Thompson
retard. this user is rightdo you really think that we evolved our empathy to care for anything other than humans? no, obviously not. how in the good fuck would not killing other animals for food and energy give any kind of survivalist advantage.
David Murphy
vegan-kun I find it hard to see shitskins with 2 digit IQ as human beings, you want to me see animals with single digit IQ as equals?
Isaiah King
So you're saying that I should sell my shrimp and buy cows now?
Grayson Ross
Sure thing buddy, pretty convenient. Can you name a trait present or absent in animals that justifies treating them the way we do?
No, I don't think I could. But once again, why should I care? I don't care about people dying in poverty. I don't give money to beggars in the street.
Leo Cox
The ability to speak. I'm literally a vegan for health and sustainability but could give a shit about animal rights. I've slaughtered plenty of them in my time. They were all delicious and if there was a sustainable way to grow them on grass I'd still eat them.
Brody Bell
>present resources
>absent basic intelligence any other way to contribute to society
they're treated like shit not out of cruelness, but out of the requirement to extract resources in the least expensive manner. Have you learned nothing from your dip into business and finance? Why are you even here?
Ryder Clark
>milking cows
You mean your mother OP?
Justin Price
Great moral framework, XD. You sound very intellectual. >the ability to speak What about humans who are mute, would it be justified to treat them in this way? What about humans who have (low) intelligence and can't contribute to society, etc. such as the mentally disabled and infants, would it be justified to treat them in this way?
>That is why agriculture is so high subsidize? There is a hell of a lot more cost, and a lot more involved, than "squeeze milknipple, sell plastic jug" child.
>I'm a veeeeeeeeeeegan because animals that have no intelligence I care about just so much >it's my CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to murder an unlimited about of human babies
Veeeeeeeeeeeeegans wearing a pussy-hat should be legal to execute on the spot. Just shoot them in the fucking face. They're clearly less intelligent than a vegetable, and we're allowed to kill vegetables.
Justin Scott
I admit I'm not a moral person. But I don't think I ever stated anything to prove that I was one. This has nothing to do with intelligence, mind you. But you'll learn it someday
Cameron Myers
>would it be justified to treat them in this way? Yeah. Although people wouldn't like that idea, for the same reason they distance themselves from the slaughter of animals. I get the point you're trying to make, but you're in biz. We don't care. You can't exactly long executing burdens to society.
Oliver Peterson
the day I can find cheap nutritive food that really replaces meats, I'll stop eating meats. meanwhile, I'm eating cow, fish, pork, etc. because I won't trade my mental and physical capacities and stability just because some animals died. just in case you didn't know: we are omnivores, and that's the way we humans have been for a long time. we got so used to that, that we know NEED to eat animal meat to live. sure, you can replace some nutrients these days, but science still doesn't have all the answers, and, let me tell you something: absence of evidence is not evidence of absence - we don't know if we know everything we should know, we don't know if those replacement nutrients are really the only things we need.
Hunter Thompson
Fucking, this. Kansas State School of Agriculture here. Can confirm.
> still not a better investment than a shrimp farm
Nolan Taylor
>One 8-ounce glass of whole milk contains 2.2 nanograms of estrogen. One 8-ounce glass of skim milk contains 0.8 nanograms. The human body produces from 54,000 nanograms to 630,000 nanograms of estrogen per day scary
If there are aliens who decide the only thing we're good for is resources, how would you dissuade them not to process us into paste?
Luis Green
>we know NEED to eat animal meat to live There's about 375 million vegetarians worldwide. They haven't dropped dead from some unknown vitamin deficiency. Also, vegetarianism is at the very least linked to lower levels of heart disease and cancer: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22677895
Julian Cooper
Moral arguments
Joseph Clark
>what's the difference between mammalian estrogen and Phytoestrogen
You get between 20-30 cents per litre of drinkable milk. Still gotta refine dat shit
Jose Walker
Because they live off their earnings instead of reinvest them.
Gavin Lewis
>They haven't dropped dead from some unknown vitamin deficiency. yet I still can question their mental capacity... I mean, most of the vegans/vegetarian people I know are not the brightest people out there, to say the least. (though, OTOH, they weren't bright before I met them, so...)
Cooper Rodriguez
So you can't give any logical reason for aliens to keep us alive? You're not very smart
>€1 per litre thats €20 a day that's the price you get it from the supermarkets retard, not the money the producer gets. you won't even make half of that.
Andrew Myers
and if you have no gf you can fuck the cow
Liam King
I'm a bit of a sociopath and wouldn't care if they were. I should have said communicate and it's entirely possible they do and we just don't understand.
I just personally don't care. Meat isn't sustainable though, our population is too big. I'm vegan for sustainability reasons, and could give a shit less about the animals.
Hudson Brown
morality is subjective, hence illogical
Ayden Foster
you sound like a big ole faggot
Lincoln Morris
Jesus, imagine being this stupid. Read some philosophy kiddo.
*couldn't give a shit I let the first time go, but I couldn't let you get away with it twice.
Jose Baker
cope harder
Jason Long
If we would be arguing at all we could easily argue that we are above the threshold of intelligence enough such that we are worthy of living and engaging with them But really mate, humans don't even give that consideration to other HUMANS We have only stopped killing and trampling over eachother in earnest for the last few hundred years, and only because we're worth more to other humans alive than dead, or otherwise it's not worth taking eachother on for what would be gained
Joseph Moore
>Meat isn't sustainable though, our population is too big. I'm vegan for sustainability reasons, and could give a shit less about the animals.
Having a morality that is logically consistent is derisable, otherwise you could justify anything by saying ''I don't need to be logical or consistent about this issue''.
Jace Howard
It isn't. Factory farmed meat isn't healthy and we'd need 3 times more land than we have to feed the US on grass fed.
