The oldest Native American skull on earth is closer to Eastern European skulls than it is for current “native” Americans

So does that mean Solutrean hypothesis is relevant again? Also I'd say but that board is full of wewuzzing and Jow Forums v. /leftypol/ garbage so I understand.

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How does schizophrenia feel ? Does it impair you in day to day life ?

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user, it's time to take your pills

No one cares about your compilations. Your posts are anti-white by default, you shit on East Euros daily, yet they are the ones with genes closest to old Aryan populations.

>old Aryan populations
You mean Pajeets?

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isn't this what the thalmor believe.

there's already 3 different types of natives here, officially it doesn't matter which one was first because they were all here before whites so it's 'their land'

no, it's indicative of jomon migration across the bering straight

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WE

No. Indo-Iranians forming in Central Russia. They had nothing to do with Pajeets. People that built Arkhaim were genetically similiar to Belarusians.

>Indo-Iranians
>nothing to do with Pajeets

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No, Solutrean hypothesis is totally unfounded. There may have been earlier migrations from the East than 14,000 ya if some of the excavation sites in the Andes are anything to go off

They mixed with australoid Indian and Iranian Hunter Gatherer women much later. Originally Indo-Iranians were between West and East Slavs genetically, making Belarusians the best proxy. They had bright skin, Baltic facial structure, somewhat light hair and light eyes.

Nothing to do with dark people of Iran and India.

A fiction is based on real life bullshit, how unexpected!

>native americans live in harmony with nature
Biggest myth ever. We know so much about them because they left garbage dumps all over. They also regularly burned the first undergrowth to make hunting easier. If they had a massive population this would have been a wasteland.

Yankees and Injuns, GTFO of our land!

>We know so much about them because they left garbage dumps all over.
all hunter gathere people do this

>They also regularly burned the first undergrowth to make hunting easier.
that is not even bad for the fauna and flora of a forest

why are mutts so angry and hateful towards native americans?
is it because they lack the education to realize that they should hate themselves instead?

And I suppose in this fantasy of yours they're yet responsible for the Indus valley and Persian civilizations if not also those of Semites as their leaders huh? And let's not forget the Aryan Greeks...

Light skin and light colored eyes did not develop jointly and Anatolia is not in central Russia by any stretch of mental gymnastics, there was never an Aryan people as 18th century linguists imagined

It's somehow a legitimacy issue for them, guess that's how you become when you live on stolen land

His DNA was tested, it's a native american.

>guess that's how you become when you live on stolen land
true dat

there were many migrations not just one
but the Siberian one was the largest

Are you talking about Plato's Thymaeus?

>And I suppose in this fantasy of yours they're yet responsible for the Indus valley and Persian civilizations
That was Iranian HGs with CHG admixture.

And holy shit you are behind:
eurogenes.blogspot.com/2018/04/the-mystery-of-sintashta-people.html?m=1

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sintashta_culture

Check their pigmentation and cry your hispanic tears.

>stolen land
The United States and every nation was built on conquest. You have no right to talk about shit Mexico if you’re gonna pull that card. The reason natives are despised is because of their godless and lazy culture which fights against technology progress

>The United States and every nation was built on conquest. You have no right to talk about shit Mexico if you’re gonna pull that card. The reason natives are despised is because of their godless and lazy culture which fights against technology progress
>technology progress
is mutilating the genitals of infant boys progress?

It prevents masturbation, so yes. I seriously want to thank Kellog for this since he knew the Jewish tricks of those who opposed it

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Mexico was born out of conquerors and conquered asimilating their respective cultures. the same as every Western European nation

Thus la creatura was born

>"The people of the Sintashta culture are thought to have spoken Proto-Indo-Iranian, the ancestor of the Indo-Iranian language family. This identification is based primarily on similarities between sections of the Rig Veda, an Indian religious text which includes ancient Indo-Iranian hymns recorded in Vedic Sanskrit"
Yet you claim they have nothing to do with Pajeets
>Offshoot of the Yamnaya
Oh yes, blonde, blue eyed peoples
>eurogenes.blogspot.com/2018/04/the-mystery-of-sintashta-people.html?m=1
>" It's also generally accepted to be the Proto-Indo-Iranian culture, and thus linguistically ancestral to a myriad of present-day peoples of Asia"
Indeed

WEEEEEEEE WUUUUUZ

Nah, thus the bronze race was born, la creatura is an American original

>His DNA was tested, it's a native american.
This. They genomed Kennewick man and he is Native American. The first Native Americans that crossed over to the Americas from Siberia 12k years ago were the following (see chart)

1. Ancient East Asian
2. Ancient Northern Eurasian (ANE)
news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/01/alaska-dna-ancient-beringia-genome/

ANE is probably where blonde hair first developed and ANE are the ancestors to Northern Europeans. Native American ancestors were part 'Caucasian' as we classify it today.

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You have reading problems. They were genetically Eastern Europeans that invaded India and Iran, bringing their Indo-Aryan languages to natives.

This is not a fantasy, it's a reality. And I don't care if it hurts your feelings.

ANE are ancstors to EHG, not Northern Europeans.

ANE + WHG = EHG

EHG + CHG = PIE

We arent but dont pretend they were all about nature. Hell the first things they were interested in from Europeans were tools and guns.

Neck yourselves. Stating the truth isn’t WE WUZZING

This thread is full of idiots who have no idea what ANE actually is, native Americans are 42% ANE and 58% east asian, of course by the time the migrations happened these two groups were not mixed completely and you could find some specimens with particularly high ANE composite

Shut the fuck up idiot no one gives a shit about mutt composites like EHG, people only care about previously genetically isolated populations which develop particular loci mutations, when people talk about the yamna they measure the percentage of ANE and the percentage of non ANE, and the yamna were pretty much half ANE and a bunch of other stuff between CHG and other genetically differentiable populations from the central asian and caucasian region

>you live on stolen land
Conquered and purchased land (a lot of natives sold land including land belonging to other tribes). Almost every country on the planet exists due to conquest.

It has nothing to do with me ffs
>"Aryan" (/ˈɛəriən/)[1] is a term that was used as a self-designation by Indo-Iranian people.[note 1] The word was used by the Indic people of the Vedic period in India as an ethnic label for themselves"
>Drawing on misinterpreted references in the Rig Veda by Western scholars in the 19th century, the term "Aryan" was adopted as a racial category through the works of Arthur de Gobineau, whose ideology of race was based on an idea of blonde northern European "Aryans" who had migrated across the world and founded all major civilizations
>According to Nazi racial theory, the term "Aryan" described the Germanic peoples.[36] However, a satisfactory definition of "Aryan" remained problematic during Nazi Germany.[37]
Aryan as you use it is nothing more than a lame attempt by Germanic supremacists to appropiate for themselves the credit for ancient old world civilizations, such "Aryans" did not exist and your looking for some modern justification in modern scholarship is not any different than creationists trying to re-label their tripe as "intelligent design"
Aryan means Indians and Persians, not Norse supermen

>This. They genomed Kennewick man and he is Native American. The first Native Americans that crossed over to the Americas from Siberia 12k years ago were the following (see chart)
IIRC he is from an ancestor group but closer to Siberians than natives.

> MiGhT MaKES RiGhT

Cringe

You sound assblasted, must be that low colonial IQ. Yamna weren't ANE but half EHG, half CHG, if you can't see the difference, then it's pointless talking to you.

>purchased land
At gunpoint, sure

Might DOES make right

I don't care about germanics and their fantasies.

White people steal everything

Only as long as you're the one holding the gun

>They had bright skin, Baltic facial structure, somewhat light hair and light eyes.
Nothing to do with dark people of Iran and India.

Australoids were apparently first in America

You do know that Kennewick man has already been DNA tested and he was 100% Amerindian, right?

america belongs to the natives

Sintashta and Andronovo were light pigmented and looked like NorthEast Euros. Deal with it.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andronovo_culture

Modern Pakis and Pajeets owe them paternal marker, influence in language and mythos. And that's it. Inhabitants of India, Iran and Pakistan don't resemble their East Euro forefathers.

Nordic Arab please return to Kohlchan

>nordic
Piss off you mutt.

WE

>Yamna were not ane
What the fuck were the ehg dumfuck, literally ANE with some slight WHG, as I said no one gives a shit about EHG or any other mutt composite, stop pretending EHG is a genetically distinct population that is compositionally relevant, no one gives a shit

At the end of the day Europeans both ancient and modern can be described as mixes of ENF, CHG, WHG and ANE, it makes no sense to introduce groups that literally spawn from these aforementioned axioms, its called synthesis for a reason

Keep barking.
Apparently some shitskin edited page about characteristics.

Andronovo were majority light haired and light eyed.

NECK
YOUR
SELF

>The team of academics not only discovered that the Spirit Cave remains—the world’s oldest natural mummy—was a Native American but they were able to dismiss a longstanding theory that a group called Paleoamericans existed in North America before Native Americans

>Professor Eske Willerslev, who holds positions both at St John’s College, University of Cambridge, and the University of Copenhagen, and led the study, said: “Spirit Cave and Lagoa Santa were very controversial because they were identified as so-called ‘Paleoamericans’ based on craniometry—it was determined that the shape of their skulls was different to current day Native Americans. Our study proves that Spirit Cave and Lagoa Santa were actually genetically closer to contemporary Native Americans than to any other ancient or contemporary group sequenced to date.”

>The Lagoa Santa remains were retrieved by Danish explorer Peter W. Lund in the 19th century and his work led to this ‘Paleoamerican hypothesis’ based on cranial morphology that theorised the famous group of skeletons could not be Native Americans. But this new study disproves that theory and the findings were launched under embargo by Professor Willerslev with representatives from the Brazilian National Museum in Rio on Tuesday, November 6 2018.

>He added: “Looking at the bumps and shapes of a head does not help you understand the true genetic ancestry of a population—we have proved that you can have people who look very different but are closely related.”

WUZ

Another team found Australoid admixture right next to Lagoa Santa

>looked like NorthEast Euros
Kek, You mean Finnic?
You're obviously invested in your "Aryans" somehow staying separate from Indians/Iranians when in reality they're as related to these cultures we speak of as any European or Central Asian would be, if not more so, these proto-Aryans do no longer exist in the real world, and the term Aryan itself, as I quoted earlier, refers to a very specific branch in Iran and India.

>Keep barking
Ok so you are worthless and cannot take actual criticism for your retarded thesis, using EHG to describe europeans is as retarded as describing Latin Americans in casta terms like lobo or albarazado instead of the obviously axiomatic white, native and black

Literally go and look for a single study in archaeogenetics that measures any modern day population in terms other than enf, whg and yamna or ane/chg, retard

No. I meant: Balts(that includes Finns), North and East Slavs.

Why are you so hurt by studies?

>Polack with a French proxy
LMAO

Yamna: EHG + CHG

Keep going.

Those findings only apply to South America in any event

EHG is ANE dumbfuck, how dense can you be

>Andronovo were majority light pigmented

Ok you are just a deluded retard
genetiker.wordpress.com/pigmentation/

But not in Lagoa Santa or Spirit cave, the oldest remains in the Americas. So how were they there 'first'?

Who's hurt? Quit it with the cheap rethoric, you can't debate the point so you turn to ad hominem, I madee my case clearly in the post, you did not address that

Spirit Cave is from Nevada.

>EHG is ANE
>calls me a dumbfuck
It writes itself.

>genetiker
Cherrypicked trash.

>At gunpoint, sure
Nice meme.
>A contemporary purchase of rights in nearby Staten Island, to which Minuit also was party, involved duffel cloth, iron kettles, axe heads, hoes, wampum, drilling awls, "Jew's harps", and "diverse other wares". "If similar trade goods were involved in the Manhattan arrangement", Burrows and Wallace surmise, "then the Dutch were engaged in high-end technology transfer, handing over equipment of enormous usefulness in tasks ranging from clearing land to drilling wampum."[11]

Why would they give all this shit if they had guns pointed at the natives? They'd just take it. Dont confuse Mexico City with the 13 colonies.

BASED

The remains were just as old as Lagoa Santa
>Studies of the peopling of the Americas have focused on the timing and number of initial migrations. Less attention has been paid to the subsequent spread of people within the Americas. We sequenced 15 ancient human genomes spanning Alaska to Patagonia; six are ≥10,000 years old (up to ~18× coverage). All are most closely related to Native Americans, including an Ancient Beringian individual, and two morphologically distinct “Paleoamericans.” We find evidence of rapid dispersal and early diversification, including previously unknown groups, as people moved south. This resulted in multiple independent, geographically uneven migrations, including one that provides clues of a Late Pleistocene Australasian genetic signal

>Our autosomal, Y-chromosomal and mitochondrial DNA analyses reveal that whereas few specimens seem to be related matrilineally or patrilineally, nearly all subjects belong to haplogroup R1a1-M17 which is thought to mark the eastward migration of the early Indo-Europeans. Our results also confirm that at the Bronze and Iron Ages, south Siberia was a region of overwhelmingly predominant European settlement, suggesting an eastward migration of Kurgan people across the Russo-Kazakh steppe. Finally, our data indicate that at the Bronze and Iron Age timeframe, south Siberians were blue (or green)-eyed, fair-skinned and light-haired people and that they might have played a role in the early development of the Tarim Basin civilization.

Spirit Cave is older and had no Australasian signal. Its the oldest set of remains in the Americas.

No it doesn’t

Did you even read the Haak study?

>Cherrypicked trash
LMAO coping faggot

>The international study also revealed “traces of Australasian ancestry in ancient Native Americans in South but not North America”
ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/spirit-cave-mummy-0010987

Is your country just those 13 colonies?

You are the one coping. Just like pajeetgang that edited original quote on wikipedia, mr EHG is ANE.

>From their data and analysis, the researchers think that the northern and southern branches of the Amerindians split around 15k years ago in a region south of eastern Beringia – already past the ice.

>One very important point, naturally mentioned in none of the press accounts, is what they didn’t see: the Alaskan kid didn’t have any of the Australo-Melanesian, Andamanese-like component that exists in Amazonian Indians today. The Clovis-complex Anzick-1 skeleton from Montana, about 12.6k years old, was a member of the southern Amerindian branch – but it didn’t have any Andamanese-like component either

Looks like a shaved Kicking Bear tbph

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They are the origin of the country after that we expanded the way other large nations did. Natives in the fucked did get fucked by Jackson I'll admit. Groups like the Comanche and Apache got what they deserved. A lot of tribes out west still have significant reservations. IIRC the Hopi and Navajo were recently fighting over some Grand Canyon development

sierraclub.org/sierra/navajo-nation-council-rejects-mega-development-escalade-tramway

>NO NO NO NO NO SHUT UP SHUT UP I AM RIGHT SHUT SHUT UP

EHG are ANE retard holy shit whats your fucking problem
Read the studies, even the PCA shows that yamna were aligned with the ANE on a ANE WHG CHG cline, the only reason ehy the EHG were brought up was because a certain population showed a variation of the R1a haplogroup which isnt even necessarily explained by population divergence

Eastern European Hunter-Gatherer(EHG) is a lineage derived predominantly from ANE. It is represented by two individuals fromKarelia, one of Y-haplogroup R1a-M417, dated c. 8.4 kya, the other of Y-haplogroup J, date 7.2 kya, and one individual fromSamara, of Y-haplogroup R1b-P297, dated 7.6 kya. This lineage is closely related to the ANE sample fromAfontova Gora, dated c. 18 kya. After the end of the Last Glacial Maximum, the WHG and EHG lineages merged in Eastern Europe, accounting for early presence of ANE-derived ancestry in Mesolithic Europe.

You sound retarded

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