Were Ancient Greeks shitskins?

Were Ancient Greeks shitskins?

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Ancient - No
Look at Alexander the Great
Modern - Yes

Are you actually historically illiterate? They were Nordic

we're onlny going off what these game companies are telling us

They were black like arabs

The origins of the Bronze Age Minoan and Mycenaean cultures have puzzled archaeologists for more than a century. We have assembled genome-wide data from 19 ancient individuals, including Minoans from Crete, Mycenaeans from mainland Greece, and their eastern neighbours from southwestern Anatolia. Here we show that Minoans and Mycenaeans were genetically similar, having at least three-quarters of their ancestry from the first Neolithic farmers of western Anatolia and the Aegean1,2, and most of the remainder from ancient populations related to those of the Caucasus3 and Iran4,5. However, the Mycenaeans differed from Minoans in deriving additional ancestry from an ultimate source related to the hunter–gatherers of eastern Europe and Siberia6,7,8, introduced via a proximal source related to the inhabitants of either the Eurasian steppe1,6,9 or Armenia4,9. Modern Greeks resemble the Mycenaeans, but with some additional dilution of the Early Neolithic ancestry. Our results support the idea of continuity but not isolation in the history of populations of the Aegean, before and after the time of its earliest civilizations

sciencemag.org/news/2017/08/greeks-really-do-have-near-mythical-origins-ancient-dna-reveals

Not surprisingly, the Minoans and Mycenaeans looked alike, both carrying genes for brown hair and brown eyes. Artists in both cultures painted dark-haired, dark-eyed people on frescoes and pottery who resemble each other, although the two cultures spoke and wrote different languages. The Mycenaeans were more militaristic, with art replete with spears and images of war, whereas Minoan art showed few signs of warfare, Lazaridis says. Because the Minoans script used hieroglyphics, some archaeologists thought they were partly Egyptian, which turns out to be false.

When the researchers compared the DNA of modern Greeks to that of ancient Mycenaeans, they found a lot of genetic overlap. Modern Greeks share similar proportions of DNA from the same ancestral sources as Mycenaeans, although they have inherited a little less DNA from ancient Anatolian farmers and a bit more DNA from later migrations to Greece.

They were Nordic

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wtf is this horror?

>modern greeks are mutts, we foreigners are the true descendants of the ancient greeks!

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The Trojan war is another example of how white male insecurity ruins everything

menelaus = mycenaean = wh*Te gayreek boi
Paris = Trojan = Anatolian BLACK Bull
Helen = a woman who has to choose

When the white woman (obviously) choose the superior BLACK BULL over weak ass wh*Te boi, the wh*Te boi became butthurt and proceed to attack Troy, but since wh*Tes are so weak they could never conquer the BLACK Trojans
gayreek being the filthy dishonorable wh*Tes that they are, use trickery to destroy Troy
thousand years later gayreeks finally got what they deserve when the BLACK TÜRKs rightfully avenged the BLACK Trojans

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>Anatolian BLACK Bull
Lolwut

based TURK brother

>t.brainlet

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Guy to the left looks like he could be French unironically ( and there's nothing wrong with that )

>Helen = a woman who has to choose
You never read Iliad

Why did they go to all the trouble of depicting Greeks with realistic features if they were just going to add a bunch of Jamaican looking characters anyway?

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I don't know if anyone remembers Mystic Knights of Tir Na Nog, but there was a black guy in Ancient Ireland too

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The original greeks were darker than modern greeks, modern greeks bot bleached by slavic migrations into the balkans, they heven have a sizeable amount of r1a haplogroup because of that

I don't have anything against representation but at least give some kind of explanation for it. Like maybe you could have exotic characters who are warriors for the Persian empire or mercenaries, sailors or something.

they said that he was from Atlantis. Because it is a fake place, it was easy to say that everyone in Atlantis was black. Of course, you could also say this is another example of the Mediterranean bvll

Dude they were fucking Meds and had people from Asia as a close neighbor is it really so hard to believe some of them might have been at least a little tan?

kys

Yeah, but they shouldn't be like Indian colored.

That's a reasonable conjecture but it doesn't necessarily follow that because there was gene flow into Greek from the Balkans/Eastern Europe ancient Greeks must have been substantially swarthier than moderns.

substantially perhaps no, but slightly yes

Multiculturalism in video games. A little surprising you don't know about blacks and mixed people given your location

>Look at Alexander the Great
yes yes?

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everyone was black in history
whiteness is an aberration

Proofs? Is there any empirical evidence from ancient DNA that the frequency of skin pigmentation predicting SNPs changed appreciably from ancient Greeks to modern Greeks?

Exactly. Blonde-haired, blue eyed. Swarthy Greeks of modern day looks nothing like that. Wonder what happeend to them.

Actually, Slavo-Macedonians fit that description closer, so I can sort of see why they claim him, lol.

based BLACK (TÜRK) man

Modern greeks literally look like the people in OP's picture, I don't see the problem here

Greeks lied about her being kidnapped it was HER own CHOICE

Ancient Greeks were more shitskin than modern ones are. Modern Greeks have Slavic and Germanic input, where as Ancient Greeks were closer to Middle Easterners.

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>skin pigmentation
That's retarded, the way in which SLC24A5 and related SNP's predict skin color is discrete, as in "chance of dark/light color", it doesn't determine the hue itself given that it can be a result of exposure to sun, epigenetic processes and other uncontrollable variables.

I really doubt skin color would've changed much, given that even neolithic greeks were already light skinned, i think changes are more in the hair and eye color department.

For example in modern day greece the lightest greeks are usually found in the north of continental greece, bordering macedonia, which coincidentally is the greek region with the highest presence of R1a

This

Nigger that's 50,000 bc ancient, not classical Greece

Classical Greeks were only around 5%-10% Steppe(Yamna, but the real source was probably Corded Ware) They were in majority ENF, so by default closer to Middle Easterners, than to East Euros.

The neolithic did not occur 52,000 years ago

they are still close to east euros

>probably corded wire
hey it's the pole

It's Corded Ware and it was most likely the reason for steppe admixture found among Mycenaeans. It wasn't high, but it wasn't present among Minoans. Later during migration period, Germanics and Slavs brought more of it.

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If by Eastern Euros you mean Balkans, then yes, they are close.

Neolithic is before the bronze age. It's like the last part of the Stone age

Tbh i think the best modern day descendants of the ancient greeks would be the insular greeks living in Crete, studies pretty much show they are pretty much half turk/south italian

Ancient as if pre Indo-Euro invasions? Like Minoans?

You all know the Byzantines had colored drawings, right?

And no, they're not of the West Asian race. That's why the Persian Empire left them out when it included all of them.

No, definitely hellenic already, i mean ancient as in pre slavic migrations or ottoman rule

At the end of the day what we are both saying is that science conclusively shows that classical era greeks were darker and closer to anatolians and middle easterns than modern day ones.