Fucking LULZ you can't even receive payments with Lightning Network wallets without jumping through hoops

Fucking LULZ you can't even receive payments with Lightning Network wallets without jumping through hoops.

old.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/8q9wco/is_it_really_true_that_there_is_no_consumer/

>Nothing can be received immediately after creating a new payment channel, as ‘room’ for incoming funds has to be made by spending some funds first. A payment channel can be thought of as a full bottle of water: in order to pour something in one first has to pour something out.
>Each channel implicitly contains a reserve which is unspendable and typically takes about 2% of the channel’s capacity. You must spend that reserve before receiving is allowed. Unspendable channel reserve is the reason you see a negative receive limit when a new channel is full. It indicates how much you need to spend before anything can be received through the channel.
>Every payment request is disposable, they can’t be fulfilled twice. So you will need to issue a new individual payment request for every incoming payment you wish to receive.
>Wallet needs to be online in order to receive off-chain funds.

This is a big step backwards in crypto, why is ANYONE hyped about it?

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github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/graphs/contributors
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>Wallet needs to be online in order to receive off-chain funds.
I don't think people realize the sheer magnitude of insanity this is.

whatever, brainlets. bitcoin is for programming nerds only, its not ready for your grandma or your sub-saharan nigger population. if you can't run a raspberry pi full node and maintain open channel states 24/7 you don't deserve to use bitcoin and should just use fiat.

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Let's also not forget that LN funds are completely insecure from the start because its impossible to cold store. So anyone wanting to store funds for years has to do it with hot wallets with LN. Anyone buying into this as a solution is room temperature iq level.

So, this is the fabled VISA killer?

It will go down anyway and bitcoin cash will loose the cash in its name when it happens.

Just remember Bitcoin cash is bitcoin before lightning.

blockstream and lightning network is nothing else but the banker takeover of bitcoin, they are trying to destroy the invention of satoshi nakamoto and the blockchain

anyone who is still on the btc side is fucking retarded

God you guys are stupid. Just route through a central banking hub (after providing all necessary identification, including passport, SSN and address) then wait 15 minutes for the Lightning Ad to stop playing, then wait another 10 minutes for the payment to route

FFS, you guys sound like big blocker who wants to make bitcoin some sort of product we sell to big bankers

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>bitcoin is for programming nerds only

Yeah, keep telling yourself that lol.

>Sex Workers Are Using Crypto to Save for Retirement
coindesk.com/sex-worker-retirement/

After watching this I'm starting to see what has happened with BTC.
youtube.com/watch?v=0BZoKH-hX_o

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How can core cucks recover from this?

>actually listening to a bunch of chink shills on reddit
it lightning wasn't ever going to work why are all the chinks scared shitless about losing their centralized grasp on bitcoin?

Just gonna leave this here

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same could be said the other way around, if BCH wasn't a threat then why are there so much censorship and slander? would just be a matter of ignoring it (like for example 0xBitcoin, it's just ignored by BTC because it's not a threat)

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twitter.com/starkness/status/676599570898419712?s=21

Lightning Network is ready in 6 months
...said in 2015 by the Lightning Labs CEO?!?!

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can somebody explain to me why the FUCK do we need ANY of that shit when we have SUPERIOR PHYSICAL CASH that I can just hand over to another person??? seriously wtf is wrong with you nerds

Why didn't I think of this.....

Quality video.

Nobody is afraid of LN.

Kek

Top quality b8

I can smell the amount of cope in this thread from Jow Forums.

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Because your hand can't reach Achmed in the middle of Sandistan.
Just because YOU don't need it doesn't mean it doesn't have a use case.

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this

txhighway.com/
bcash

yeah but so what, one has existed 10 months and the other 9 years. it's astonishing that BCH already have over 10% that BTC have.

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*over 10% of the amount of transactions that BTC have

Yeah its astonishing that it has any at all. Fucking chinese shitcoin.

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you keep using that image. i do not think it conveys what you think it conveys

damn, that is eye opening

It conveys that bcash is a counterfeit that parades as the real thing and relies on the ignorance of its users to perpetuate its existence.

NT though Roger.

>Bitcoin forks 100 times but this PARTICULAR fork is a big scam and a problem

Are you scared corecuck?

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I thought that image was spot the legitimate item from amongst the phonies.

Seems like a pretty good conclusion considering it has been posted in every single Bitcoin (BCH) thread ever made on Jow Forums

no, all it tells me is that you cover your ears and shout la la la and can't counter anything negative said about lightning network. so you just post a meme image and think to yourself that you've helped change people's minds.

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Because banks are getting more cocky everyday and I hate fucking waiting on weekends for money to transfer if you are not in the same bank seriously fuck those guys

he came up with and implemented SegWit too

>gets roastie alone
>shows her his rubiks cube

yes, bcash has this one guy who is so much better than the other 128 guys you forgot to mention. github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/graphs/contributors

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I really wish mining had developed in Korea, Japan or Russia instead of China. The amount of airtime that stupid "fucking chink coin" narrative gets from brainless fuckheads is really annoying. It was never going to be a burger thing, industrial mining requires factory and other capacities first world western countries outsourced years ago. But it doesn't actually mean shit, because chinks, ruskies, nips, aussies, burgers, whatever, they're all rational actors if they're intelligent enough to produce global significant pow therefore they're all bound by the game theory of nakamoto consensus.

>so much censorship and slander

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could be a thousand people, doesn't change the fact that Lightning Network is a terrible idea and it doesn't even work well

friend

this also doesn't change that LN is a terrible idea. all that bitcoin needed was 2 MB blocks and lightning network could have been developed another much needed 5 years but nope.

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it's the first fork. I bet you think Litecoin is great too.

at least Litecoin doesn't strive towards having 50 USD fees just to send 1 USD

The reason bitcoin fees were high is because the bcashie bitmain faggots spammed the mempool in order to make their shitcoin fork look more lucrative.

lulz im sure someone would spend millions of USD just for that

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>why is ANYONE hyped about it?
No one is hyped about LN except BTC maximalists who can't comprehend another crypto dominating the digital cash market.

BTCoreCuck since 2010-2011 and this tears it, core is dead to me. Even missed the alt train after the seeing the DAO hack, swapping everything into ETH permanently with a little BCH as insurance

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wrong, blockstream spammed the mempool (while popping bottles of champagne no less) to literally bribe the miners into keeping their segwit fork alive. they know at any time jihan can freeze their chain.

Dumb fucks. Maybe if bitcoin cASShers actually used the coin it would do something. No one uses Bcash just a bunch of random shills. You don't even know how lightning works.

i like cats

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>>Wallet needs to be online in order to receive off-chain funds.

That is a fucking disaster, holy shit I didn't know this Lightning Network thing was this bad. This means you're limited purely to shitty online wallets. Sending money will also be a nightmare too, its even worse than I can describe.

This was the only thing that could have made Bitcoin actually functional and its already failed, Jesus Christ.

Yeah user such a disaster. You should forget about btc. Put all your money in bcash.

This, but unironically

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>open OPs reddit thread
>nothing but bcash redditors having a circle jerk
And yet LN still sees more use per day than bcash. Lmao.

>bitcoin forks 100 times but this PARTICULAR fork is the real bitcoin

Do. Im sure it will turn out well.

I never even looked into what Lightning was about but now I see that Bitcoin is now compromised and there's no way out.

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Bit-shilling, Grandpops favourite coin.

Gee willikers I sure do love banks stealing my hard earned cash with 10 years of negative rates.

>friend
okay, friend. you deliberately try to dupe people into thinking your OP green text is from the LN dev team when it's actually from some random Android Wallet.

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A terrible idea is forking twice to increase the block size limit when you only have enough users to fill 200KB blocks.

But your single French pajeet dev said so, because his chink boss told him to, so I guess you had no choice but to fork.

Kill it with fire.

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Lightning Network is probably the most ugly and retarded thing the fintech sector ever witnessed.

The increased size is to impress upon businesses that BCH will be ready to scale for their needs. The excess capacity is there ready and waiting to be used for their business needs.

You're a fucking retard. Blocks should never be full. Hopefully the blocksize will be increased again in November's upgrade.

Well made video. Gets the point across in a simple way, no previous knowledge required.

mfw cashies were right

>0 confirmation
>unlimited blocksize
>controlled by literally two people ( Craig "I am Satamoto :DDDD" is just a figurehead )
>shitcoin
>supported by all banks and jews
>facilitate opening of national borders
BITCOIN CORE IS A SCAM, ONLY BITCOIN MATTERS.

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This, it's really unacceptable that we are forced to use it to transfer bitcoins.