/lang/ - Language Learning General

>What language are you learning?
>Share language learning experiences!
>Ask questions about your target language!
>Help people who want to learn a new language!
>Find people to practice your target language with!
>Participate in translation challenges or make your own!

Shit nobody reads:
First and foremost check the Jow Forums Wiki.
4chanint.wikia.com/wiki/The_Official_Jow Forums_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki

/Lang/ is currently short on those image qts, so if you can pitch in to help create one for a given language, don't hesitate to read the OP; nobody embeds anyway and I just want to say I don't hate that chino faggot all that much anymore pass!

Mega link with books for all kinds of languages:
mega.nz/#F!x4VG3DRL!lqecF4q2ywojGLE0O8cu4A

FAQ:
>How do I learn a language? What is the best way to learn one? How should I improve on certain aspects?
Ideally take a class, otherwise buy (torrent) a well-received textbook for your language, google any grammar you have trouble with and no matter what do lots of translation exercises
>Will I learn a language by using Duolingo five minutes a day while taking a shit
No
>I'm going to use Duolingo anyway
If on your phone, use the mobile site and NOT the app; the latter lacks many important features and doesn't let you turn the word bank off which should always be off. In addition don't copy-paste or memorize answers for the sake of completing lessons, and as above, google anything you don't understand
>Should I learn X to get a qt wife/gf (male) etc?
No
>Should I learn lang Y so I can learn lang X?
No


>What language should I learn
Swedish
>I just want something easy and somewhat useful
Svedski
>I want a language that's useful and fun but not too hard
Svenska
>I want a language that's useful and embrace a challenge
Sænska

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Other urls found in this thread:

sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kymriska
youtube.com/watch?v=QKEopzZm3HA
anyforums.com/
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

>What language should I learn?
>Swedish


>not learning Finnish

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Swedish is memespeak in Finland :^DDDD

also, I have those patches on my patch panel
based pic

I want to learn russian

6 years of mandatory swedish and stilm can't speak it. Fuck you.

hence why it's memespeak
you all hate it and make fun of it

Some people can very well. But if I wanted to, I could learn swedish pretty fast. I have just forgotten everything.

>I have those patches
based. i'm jelly :d

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broofs :DD

>bolice, binland
damn, want me one of those

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Do the Saami still have their own language? Assume so but never hear about it. Are they fully linguistially integrated? Doubt it.

nice :)

Kuinka sanotaan suomeksi "not learning Finnish" ?

>Do the Saami still have their own language?
Yes. There are various variants too depending on area and country. They are quite ethnocentric and segregated actually.

I may take a danish course next semester
I want to take a course that doesn’t require much effort

>d*Nish

How do I work on my listening skills? I try watching nature documentaries and such, but I feel like I'm just running into a wall. Is there a way to listen 'better'?
(I'm trying to learn French if that makes a difference)

The wall is the point desu. How would it even work without a wall.

Jak się robicie finowie?

Explain

Will go back to learning Turkish for no apparent reason.

>no apparent reason.
You always need a reason to learn a language though. Even if it is just "for fun" desu

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Finowie robią benisu :D

Old thread

babby
紅水壞了。
我想看書。
你好!我叫肖恩,我學習中文。
那個高大的男孩是我的姐姐。
我能說英語。
我的老師是個非常老男人。

decent
你今天早上買了報紙嗎?
我不要做你向我要求的事,對不起。
我並不見過這樣的事。
我正在煮午餐,情別煩我。
問問題前,我總是看wiki
你昨天說“我明天會做”

spüürdöö späärde xddddddd

German OC

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>tfw sweden knows our tongue by its true name
sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kymriska

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> be Prince of Wales
> probably can't even say hello in the language

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"royalty"

S

there is only one tywysog i recognise

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Took 2 years of Spanish in high school and can understand most basic conversations but still struggle with speaking it. I've been thinking of trying to read some Spanish books, something simple, in my spare time to hone my reading comprehension and think more in Spanish. It would be good for career desu

Anyone have recs for easy to read Spanish books?

1st Harry Potter book? (Harry Potter y la piedra filosofal)

don't forget your daily Duolingo lesson

What are everyone's favorite words in their target languages? Mine are Vorschriftsgemäß and Cлыш.

More like duolameo

I just like być for the way it's pronounced

Printemps

kek you'll be literally learning a dialect of your own language or vice versa

urinonically by speaking it french with someone, I've had that plateu with german but I realized passive listening is really shit for improving your language skills , you have to do "active listening" which involved listening carefully

strapazieren, hijo de su, glasgow

Poo,"flower" in some Indian languages

how in the world are you suppose to memorize all of these conjugation tables?

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Practice. People really don't understand that that's how you learn languages

is it more efficient to focus on the charts specifically, or continue with translations until the proper conjugation forms gradually come naturally? Verb ending flash cards are rather boring to me......

Try to conjugate things, reference a chart if you absolutely have no clue, check if your right, repeat

You're* phoneposting autocorrect etc

thanks

my wife chino... I WANT TO FUCK CHINO
please chino is so cute my wife chino is so cute chino chan sex chino sex with chino i'd like some more kafuu chino sex with chino kafuu chino my wife cute is so chino wife

how to say “to fuck” in chinese?

what do you guys think is the optimal number of words/sentences to learn each day for starting out in a language, and what's the best way to go about collecting the most useful sentences to know?

Is duolingo any good for russian or should I just use the books in OP?
Olla oppimatta suomea.
Post one and I'll make up a memorization rules for you.

ok but what if you're using duolingo for hours a day?
t. dumb ameriburger

>Olla oppimatta suomea.
Kiitos vastauksestasi.

The -tta ending is new to me (Google says "without"?), but I guess I'll learn that soon enough.

>Is duolingo any good for russian or should I just use the books in OP?
Not sure about Russian for Duolingo, but I think "The New Penguin Russian Course: A Complete Course for Beginners" is considered one of the best books for learning Russian. I bought it a while back and it was very thorough.

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Maybe 5-10 words a day as beginner?
Get sentences from books you read, or if you're a true beginner, probably from the grammar book you are using. Just use their example sentences for learning.

Anki

Duolingo is TOO EASY. Even for (you). Duolingo is something you do whilst shitting, while you spend hours intensively reading.

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Thanks user. I'm looking at memrise now. I'm trying to learn br Portuguese

German challenge

youtube.com/watch?v=QKEopzZm3HA

> Lolle: Hart, bist du das?
>Hart: Wieso? Wirst du jetzt schon einen Geburtstags_______?
>Lolle: Sven steht da, und er wird springen.
>Was weiß ich? Ich bin seiner bester Freund, oder du, huh?
>Hart: Ok, seine Ehe ist im Eimer. Sein Sohn kriegt einen neuen Daddy.
>Und seine Firma steht kurz ???????????????.
>Und _______________ geht, und das Leben _________.
> Aber ... lange kein grund sich umzubringen, oder?

Actually scratch that, the correct answer to you question would be:

>ei opetele suomea

Sorry it’s well past 3AM here. What I initially said carries a slight connotation and isn’t the “formula”, if you like, you’d use on Finnish imageboards. I can explain the grammar behind my initial answer. The "-tta" suffix is called the abessive case. When used with nouns it translates to "without" and can be used interchangeably with the word "ilman". They are used equally often.

F: Lähdetkö ulos ilman takkia (note, partitive is followed after ilman)
E: Are going to leave without a jacket?

The equivalent of the above using the aforementioned case would be: Lähdetkö ulos takitta?

When it comes to verbs it can be used in the following ways:

1. Olla tekemättä – To not do something

This is generally used along some other verb such intend to (aikoa), plan on (suunnitella), try to (yrittää) etc.
Example:

F: Aiotko oikeasti olla tekemättä mitään koko viikonlopun?
E: Do really intend to not do anything the whole weekend?

2. Jättää tekemättä - To leave something undone

Example:

F: Jätitkö läksyt taas tekemättä?
E: Did you not do (lit. leave undone) your homework again?

3. Tekemättä - Without doing

Whenever a verb is conjugated in the abessive form by itself it would "without [insert verb]-ing". It is a shorter version of “ilman, että tekee” and can be used interchangeably with it just as was the case with nouns. However unlike with nouns the abessive form is more common when it comes to verbs as it is much shorter and roles easier off the tongue.

Example:

F: Hän väittää saapuneensa tänne kävelemättä askeltakaan.
E: He claims to have arrived here without taking (lit. walking) a step.

Also some finnanon should recheck what I’ve just said in keis öf brainfaart.

>continue with translations until the proper conjugation forms gradually come naturally?
Redditors hate him! Click here to find out this one weird trick used in practically every other topic of study on the planet, called read the damn textbook.
Bookwork is natural learning, it's just targeted natural learning. Just do the grind first and when you see them naturally you'll already know what they are!
I really hate how people treat languages like freaky voodoo magic nowadays. Yes there are nuances to usage of concepts and there are irregularities but that doesn't mean we should just toss textbooks and charts in the garbage.

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I really wish people who just come in here to spout garbage they copy pasted from shitposts would leave

Thanks. I appreciate your detailed explanation.

>past 3AM here
hyvää yötä :p

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hi how do you translate to finnish?
my wife chino... I WANT TO FUCK CHINO
please chino is so cute my wife chino is so cute chino chan sex chino sex with chino i'd like some more kafuu chino sex with chino kafuu chino my wife cute is so chino wife

does anyone have transcripts for pimsleur french 1?

I finished the Spanish Tree (before the great tree reformation) with a whopping total unique word count of around 2,600 and I still felt that my Spanish level was sub A-0. The same goes for Pimsleur which I've completed twice, and even my 1000 card conjugation Anki deck + 5k card vocab deck to some degree. It wasn't till I started intensively reading with LWT that I felt I made any progress at all. But everyone is different so idk spend your life doing Duolingo if you want.

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>rush through lessons and don't ever practice or reinforce anything
I'm sure using this method with a textbook would be much more effective

I kept my tree golden for months

I forgot to add memorizing/copypasting answers is bad too

Should I take an Italian class? It's offered at my school and I like Italo Calvino.

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yes unironically. you will make real life frens

i gets german crown

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congrats

>Perfectly content with what I'm learning as a second language
>Keep flipflopping back and forth between a third and whether I even want to commit to either

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who here has learned a language in an academic environment? im starting german in first semester next year and i have really no idea what i should expect.
i go to UQ by the way, if anyone wants to hook up and suck cock

Took a class after self-teaching for a while, would continue if the professor didn't quit and the other languages I was learning were available

can you describe the materials and what content it dealt with? did you enjoy conversing with other german learners?

I mean it was basically a textbook, workbook and exercises. The professor keeping you on track and simply actually going to the fucking class is a huge motivational boost however, they also know what in the book is useless and not. As for classmates, they were braindead twats who only took it as a degree requirement not realizing Spanish was a far easier option

(I never said I was learning German but you were right anyway)

I want to learn Mandarin, Cantonese, Russian and Japanese
Still haven't decided which one to learn first though
I'm mainly divided between Japanese and Mandarin
Difficult choice 2bh

>I don't know which of these extremely three difficult and one difficult languages to learn first!
With intense studying and serious effort you might get to a decent level with one of these, I'd dial back the optimism a bit and I'm not just saying this to be a dick

tomorrow is another day

> Lolle: Hart, bist du das?
>Hart: Wieso? Willst du jetzt schon ein 'Geburtstagsrendezvous'?
>Lolle: Sven steht da, und will springen.
>Was weiß denn ich? Bin ich seiner bester Freund, oder du, huh?
>Hart: Ok, seine Ehe ist im Eimer. Sein Sohn kriegt einen neuen Daddy.
>Und seine Firma steht kurz vor der Pleite(bankruptcy).
>Und wenn die bankrott geht, dann hat er bis zum Lebensende Schulden.
> Aber ... lange kein Grund sich umzubringen, oder?

Kek, my own language is spanish
Probably same as yours

Your native language is Spanish?

Yes

Need to learn German fast. What are the best sources?

1. ein geburtstagsangebote
2. verpleitet
3. die liebe kopf steht? und .. (??)
4. aber kein grund...
wew not sure about any of the above apart from the second one maybe

lmao seems like my listening comprehension is pretty weak

Why do Turks never use punctuation online? It's always run-on sentences.

el bumpo

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:(

Don't be too hard on yourself, kurwanon. I mean, you did hear the word stem of "Pleite" correctly, and it's pretty understandable that you wouldn't get "Rendezvous" when listening for German words.

:')