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keep us updated, i can't wait to hear about all the new frens you'll make

negro, learn german instead of norwegian

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Why Italian? I hope you already speak French

my wife chino is so cute

I'm trying to find myself some serious Spanish discord servers with active voice chat, but no luck. All i find are English/Spanish, learn Spanish and videogame servers. This was much easier when i was learning French because i already knew a french guy that was active on discord :(
Can anybody help a nigga out?

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I want to learn Danish

>be me
>have to learn Swedish
>don't want to learn Swedish

varför

German challenge

youtube.com/watch?v=nYlWUEwzfZs

> Bully: Ehh, _________________.
> Lolle: Hilfe!!!

> Dimitri: Liebst Süßigkeit, na?
> Lolle: Naja.
> Dimitri: Dann schenk ich dir hier mit die ganze Dose.
> Rosalie: Es geht nach Lieber, dann gggrruaahhh mmruufhhh
> Lolle: >=(
> Lolle: Immer wie kannst du jetzt ????????? kaufen, huh?
> Rosalie: Kann ich doch sagen. tzzzuhhhachh aannnrruughhennn

on suicide watch

dead thread

ostaviću ti invajt u /ex-yu/ lokalu

Because Calvino! My French is really bad desu.

he says

wilkommen mucks (check duden to see what mucks means )

es geht eine liebe fur das Inzucht fuer Alten

lolle mad: hoer mal wie kannst du jetzt fur dein casting somehting ???

kann ich doch gar nicht, unterbrichst mich andaurnd

i just want to know what it's like to understand another language
what's an easy language to learn, i don't care about utility

i just heard it again rosalie says a second fucking doch oh shot

kann ich doch gar nicht, unterbrichst mich doch andaurnd

afrikaans , literally a dumber down version of an already dumbed down german language (dutch)

and like dutch its extremley close to english , closer than german

Posting this question again

Whats the best strategy for someone that wants to learn many languages? assuming the person is interested equally in all the lanuages

Option A
Start with the hard languages first even though they will take at least 2-3 years to be conversation in just one "level 5 language"? (eg.chinese, arabic)

Option B
Start with the easiest languages first (lang closest to your own language) and in 2-3 years you can be conversation in 2-3 languages at least in a b1 level?

What I am trying to ask is, is it worth forgoing 2-3 easy languages for one hard language in the time you studied the very difficult language?

and would you benefit more as a learner starting with an easy language first or a hard language first?

Posting some previous answeres to this question

>You can get better with closer languages. So I'd suggest Romantic then slavic like Romanian then idk.
>for me the three main languages i want to learn are japanese, chinese and russian. mainly because of films and literature in those languages
i'm essentially going at them in order of priority for me
i'm starting japanese now (literally just this week) and going to focus primarily on that for the next few years (reason for this is i may study in japan on a year abroad in about 3 years time). after this i'll probably learn chinese then russian. i may do a bit of chinese alongside japanese but only once i get good at japanese. i understand having a good grasp of kanji will help learning chinese characters but the languages themselves are completely different
after i've learned these three who knows, maybe i'll continue learning langues till i die
anyway that's me ~10-15 year plan. i'm only 18 now so i hope to be able to speak atleast these 3 languages by the time i'm in my 30s

I admire this kids planning, when I was 18 i didnt give a shit about learning langs I wish i did tho, i would be a ployglot by now

dont u die

How do i start learning Finnish?, Grammar first or Pronunciation?.

assuming you are equally interested in all languages option B should be most beneficial, right? if you find fulfillment in learning languages it would be advantageous to learn 2 or 3 rather than 1

>and would you benefit more as a learner starting with an easy language first or a hard language first?

not a linguist or a psychologist, but i imagine learning grammar concepts by studying languages closer to your native language aids more with learning more difficult languages later on than the reverse would (is my theory at least)

>assuming the person is interested equally in all the lanuages

Stop here, because someone who is equally in everything won't make the cut anyway. Mastering a foreign language takes are herculean effort and dedication. Someone who doesn't have the irrational spark that really drives interest will drop it in no time.

perkele
(pirate a textbook)

Anyone learning Arabic?

Oh misread, pronunciation. You'll fuck yourself over later if you remember words in your head with the wrong pronunciation, I'm still recovering from that with Russian due to stress

> look at me I'm like Hercules

thoughts?
youtube.com/watch?v=mXqFD2bWHxU

I agree and disagree, for sure you need to have that passion and der Funk, but i believe discipline can still take you a long way. at least i hope so , i had that irrational funk with german and reached at least a high b2 level , and now studying french, I dont have that crazy spark like german but i hope my discipline take me to at least b1

Very interesting and smart opinion my friend. however I find that after learning the hard grammar rules of german (I know its close to english) it helped me improve learning french grammar faster

Pronounciation, vocabulary and grammar, idoms and expressions. In that order.

There used to be a Brazilian poster who spoke flawless Finnish. He'd occassionally post in /mämmi/. I don't know if he's still around anymore maybe he posts in /luso/.
لم أعد كذلك ولكن يمكنني مساعدتك في التوضيح النحو. وأفضل طبعًا أن تسأل متحدثًا باللغة الأصلي.

Do you know strictly MSA? الفصحى؟

انا بدرس الشامية و الفصحى كمان في معهد الدفاع للغات.

درست الفصحى أولا بس شفت شوي الى اللهجات المتفرقة. شوية مبتختلفش بكتير عن الفصحى ف النحو والصرف مثل اللهجات الشامية ومنهم اللى بغير مفهومة مثل اللهجات المغاربة وأوقات يقال انهم لغة مختلفة.

I haven't really dedicated much time to dialects. Written 3aamiyah isn't that different from MSA but whenever I hear Arabs speak in public I have a hard time understanding them but I have no problem with spoken MSA. Not so long ago I heard Egyptian Arabic being spoken and I understood most of it. It's probably due to lack of exposure.

effectivelanguagelearning.com/language-guide/language-difficulty
hours are very very much approximate

Go with one. If you manage to learn one then we can talk.

Hey

Hi.

Why are you learning Arabic? Is it even a useful language to acquire in the US?

We're back

That first line is nearly unintelligible and sets in rather abruptly. You might have cut off something there.
> Bully: *mumbling* (maybe: will ik hörn keenen) Mucks
> Lolle: Hilfe!!!

> Dimitri: Liebst Süßigkeit, na?
> Lolle: Naja.
> Dimitri: Dann schenk ich dir hiermit die ganze Dose.
> Rosalie: Des is keene Liebe, des isn Suchtverhalten.
> Lolle: >=(
> Lolle: Samma (sag mal) wie kannst du denn jetzt für dein casting pauken, huh?
> Rosalie: Kann ich doch gar nicht, du unterbrichst mich doch andauernd.

>es geht eine liebe fur das Inzucht fuer Alten
kek

any recommended resources for Czech, other than perhaps the stuff in the mega? Couldn't find anything decent for serbo-cro speakers so the ones for english speakers should do fine as well

So what’s the difference between ständig and beständig?

ständig: constant, continuous, recurring
beständig: resistant to change

enjoy a bit of German humor

youtube.com/watch?v=Aqdbeg7rqzk

Good morning! Does anyone know where I can find german subtitles for German lanugage movies? I can't find any for the life of me unless they were already included in the movie/show I downloaded.

I tried websites like opensubtitles, subscene, isubtitles, and moviesubtitles. The only one I manage to sometimes find german subs in is Opensubtitles, and even then they're usually out of sync or in case of TV shows they have subs for a few episodes. And since I'm a poor fag I can't buy anything unfortunately.

So does anyone know if there's a website dedicated to German subs? Or do Germans have something against the audibly impaired?

One is an adverb the other an adjective.
A more accurate translation would be constantly and constant respectively.

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No fucking wonder Germans, meds and France speak such poor English by European standards

Germans speak better English than Americans desu

@98743169
Not even worth the (You)

but seriously, Germans speak great English. I don't understand your point?

youtube.com/watch?v=E6zzB-ErAKw
thoughts on this guy?

am i the only one who thinks chinese sounds nice?
maybe it's just the taiwanese accent but i like it a lot, especially with female voices

Everything sounds nice when spoken by a qt girl

this desu senpai

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He means German subtitles of German closed captioning, for the deaf and hearing impaired

You're searching for the wrong keyword

Subtitles are translations of foreign movies
Closed captioning is word for word transcription of audio

Compared to similar and better European countries they're relatively pretty bad at it. As for anecdotes, I've been to most of western/central/some of Eastern Europe and only ran into issues with people not speaking English in German speaking countries.

>month ban for saying "btw im 12" obviously joking in another thread
Really.

Thanks for clearing it up, now it makes more sense. But I still couldn't find anything.

That is not correct. Both can be used as adjective and adverb.

I guess there is always the option of buying DVDs from Germany. Not everything can be pirated

also take into account that every boomer in east germany anyone 40 and up didnt learn english in school they learned russian. thats like 1/3 of of the adult german population

bump

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How do you know when you can commit to a langauge? Ive been thinking about learning BSL, but I know how much of a commitment learning a language is, especially for something as niche and difficult as BSL. How do you know when you can commit?

Thank y'all.

Do you guys know a good character-dictionary for Chinese?
One where they aren't "randomly" sorted, but in an order where they are logical to learn.
Preferably with stroke order too.
(And not online, and it shouldn't cost an arm and leg either)

i'll give you one for just an arm

How British of you

I can't think of anything less pleasant than using a physical Chinese dictionary.

Okay, then I might have worded it badly.
A textbook that teaches you a lot of characters in a logical order then.

You can try just going through the HSK word lists.

So HSK is 100% learning by rote?

i know a puerto rican guy that hosts several active discord servers but puerto rican spanish is different from standard spanish

Not really, Dutch grammar is very nuanced, you can say something correctly but it sounds wrong and you have to memorize all these exceptions to sound native. German is easier because the rules are straightforward. And my friend tried to learn Afrikaans and tried speaking it to a girl and she told him he sounds weird, that they say things a different way, but there's no clear rules, you just major exposure.

If you grind it without a textbook it is. It's just a bunch of exam word lists categorized by which level they should be learned at. Far from perfect, but fits what you asked for.
If you want a textbook to start with, you could try Integrated Chinese. It's boring like all entry level textbooks, but it does the job.

Well, I'm currently using a Tuttle textbook which has 800 characters, but I want to think ahead for the future.