There are literally hundreds of great stirring Scottish songs that fill the hearts of men with courage and passion but you went for this piece of shit? It's kind of indicative of the mindset of the Scottish Government if you ask me; a whiny left wing oriented self - sorry bunch of cucks who's entire reaosn to exist is to bitch at England.
So you sent "Proud Edward back home, and made him think again?" Well whoop de damn do because the English did think about ti again and then they came and back and dicked all over you! WHY ON EARTH DID YOU PICK THIS STUPID FUCKING SONG!
Scots are the cringiest larpiest people with the biggest chips on their shoulders that planet Earth has ever known.
Nolan Long
They're usually alright if you ask me but you start talking about England or if you give them any power; then they start strutting with the arrogance of an Israeli on overdrive. Truly one of the lost tribes of Judeah
Carson Mitchell
>be chatting cordially with me mates outside the pub in 2014 >mention the Scottish independence vote in passing, have a chuckle >out of nowhere, the village Scot stumbles over, his face a tapestry of rage and indignation >"YEW KNO NOTHIN BOUT SCOTLAND, YEWW NEED TO EDU-CATE YER SELVES BEE-FOR YEW CHAT SHIT ABOOT SCOT-LANDDD!" >his piece said, he saunters back towards the light of the pub
I'm (op) and i generally like Scots and Scotland. My Dad is even a Scot but theres no denying they've got a nasty strain of prejudice and arrogance sometimes. Devolution was a mistake but i guess its yet another thing we can blame that shitstain Tony Blair for.
Lincoln Powell
in all fairness it does go both ways. As a Welshoid I've met both Scots and Englishmen that fucking sneer about each others countries and I don't get why they get themselves so worked up about it
Brody Myers
>Devolution was a mistake This, regional democracies are a meme.
Charles Mitchell
Yeah it's true but the english anthem isn't a masturbatory dirge about how we fought them
Cameron Williams
It should be in Gaelic Yr Alban must sing their anthem in their natural tongue as we do
>Scotland's anthem is just some folk song drunk old men sing in a pub What did you expect?
Jaxon Anderson
people can choose their own anthem and that's fine
as it is, the theme song from outlander would make a better anthem in my own personal opinion
this wailing lament about coming back from their many defeats some time in the far future is kind of ill fitting for someone that wants a real country
Owen Harris
pretty much every welsh person. I don't know anyone that can't sing it. It's something you sing from primacy school so it's near impossible not to be able to.
Landon Gomez
I don't need to answer you because your country man already has:
>tfw you will never serve in a Cambrian SS panzer division during Operation Seelowe
Angel Rodriguez
Welsh is lovely, always sounds like people are singing. And it looks cool too just look at this elvish Wikipedia article
Dosberthir copaon Cymru, a gweddill gwledydd Prydain, yn rhestri arbennig yn ôl uchder ac yn ôl amlygrwydd y copa; mae'r copa hwn yn cael ei alw'n Marilyn, Hewitt a Nutall . Uchder cymharol, neu ”amlygrwydd” y copa, ydy 215metr: dyma'r uchder mae'r copa'n codi uwchlaw'r mynydd agosaf. Mae sawl cymdeithas yn mesur, gwiro a chasglu'r rhestri hyn a dônt ynghŷd ar wefan “Database of British and Irish hills”.[1] Uchder y copa o lefel y môr ydy 886 metr (2907 tr). Cafodd yr uchder ei fesur a'i gadarnhau ar 28 Hydref 2001.
Are there any song in Scots? I heard one, but it probably was just a strong accent.
Also, does Scots have orthography like in English, or it's simplier? Looks like English.
Ryder Price
need to hear an american try and speak welsh
Lincoln White
Scots is English that Scottish people pretend is a seperate language because actually learning Gaelic is too hard.
Henry Sanders
It's pretty much the English one. If you Google 'Scottish twitter' you'll see lots of examples of differences, but there's nothing standardised and it's pretty much slang
Christopher Clark
it just ends up looking like English phonetically written to have a impermeable Scottish accent
it's bizarre, and never ceases to amuse.
Nolan Kelly
it's a sister language to english
Brayden Bailey
it's just slang
Colton Murphy
O B S E S S E D
Ryan Morris
im english, dont know a word of welsh and know this its a good anthem
Why are they surprised that a country they've tried to conquer and colonise for nearly 1000 years doesn't like them much?
Aiden Nelson
Wele goelcerth wen yn fflamio A thafodau tân yn bloeddio Ar i'r dewrion ddod i daro Unwaith eto'n un. Gan fanllefau tywysogion Llais gelynion, trwst arfogion A charlamiad y marchogion Craig ar graig a gryn.
Arfon byth ni orfydd Cenir yn dragywydd Cymru fydd fel Cymru fu Yn glodfawr ym mysg gwledydd. Yng ngwyn oleuni'r goelcerth acw Tros wefusau Cymro'n marw Annibyniaeth sydd yn galw Am ei dewraf ddyn.
Ni chaiff gelyn ladd ac ymlid Harlech! Harlech! cwyd i'w herlid Y mae Rhoddwr mawr ein Rhyddid Yn rhoi nerth i ni. Wele Gymru a'i byddinoedd Yn ymdywallt o'r mynyddoedd! Rhuthrant fel rhaeadrau dyfroedd Llamant fel y lli!
Llwyddiant i'n marchogion Rwystro gledd yr estron! Gwybod yn ei galon gaiff Fel bratha cleddyf Brython Y cledd yn erbyn cledd a chwery Dur yn erbyn dur a dery Wele faner Gwalia'i fyny Rhyddid aiff â hi!
look all I'm saying is that Scotland and England should be ruled from Wales. That way you remove the animosity. Easy.
Austin Perez
Wales is a social construct.
Kayden Stewart
Why did he leave Scotland?
Christopher Hall
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Andrew Wright
>Devolution was a mistake
Scot here. I agree 100%. Most of the population are insufferable, borderline retarded SNP voters who haven't a clue what the party really stands for.
I'm not sure why my countrymen love leftism so much, but this country is going down the crapper at an alarming rate.
Josiah Johnson
Wales is a separate country from England, but it seems way more integrated in England than Scotland or Northern Ireland. Can you explain this?
Alexander Hall
Daily reminder that for an Irn bru and a bag of crisps you could force your superiour English shaft up this flower of Scotland's anus and stir last night's haggis
Jack Wood
socially constructed to directly rule over England and Scotland, I agree
Scots is a dialect of English Scots Gaelic is a separate language
Search for "Auld Lang Syne" or "A man's a Man for a' that" or anything else by Rabbie Burns to hear Scots. We've mostly lost the true Scots language/dialect now, and what many consider Scots is just a broad accent with a few Scots words mixed in.
Gaelic on the other hand is totally different, and only a tiny minority speak in in the West Highlands and Islands. It was never a national language for most of our history in the rest of Scotland.
Isaiah Lee
No bad, hae's yersel' Jimmy?
Adrian Foster
Tall? We're all stunted from a site diet of deep fried gummy worms and being weaned off the tit on to Irn Bru. There's no tall people here.
Jason Mitchell
>It was never a national language for most of our history in the rest of Scotland.
This is a broad exagguration pushed by peopling looking to minimise the very real cultural differences between Scotland and England.
Luis Lee
Karen Gillan is 5'11/180cm, that is tall for a woman. Is she not a true scottish woman?
Brody Diaz
Pick up a history book. See:
Logan Gomez
I have no idea who that is, but yes that is very tall for a Woman, and extremely tall for someone from Scotland.
Ayden Hill
Look at a map. We have Gaelic placenames well into Fife and Lothian surviving to this day.
Isaac Peterson
Also, I personally feel Gaelic can be seen as a kind of placeholder for other Celtic languages that no longer survive, such as Pictish.
Benjamin Nguyen
doesn;'t mean shit we have many welsh place names all over england.
that is a NORF meme not a gael meme t. justmade it earler
Nolan Sullivan
can you offer me an example of what the party "really stands for" or some reason that the country is going down the crapper I'd really honestly love to hear why you think this
Logan Taylor
>doesn;'t mean shit
Yes it does. It demonstrates that in thr not very distant past Gaelic was spoken over huge parts, if not most, of Scotland. It's a part of culture, and it belongs to all of us.
Mason Bennett
WHY WOULDNA FECHE FER CHERLIE WHY WOULDNA DRAW THE SWORD WHY WOULDNA UP AND RALLY AT THE ROYAL PRINCE'S WORD?
the English can be thankful that they Scots didn't choose a Corries song for their anthem that praises the true monarchs of Great Britain, the Stuarts, and its true religion, Catholicism
Adam Miller
There are far, far more Brythonic and Scots/Inglis place names outside of the West Highlands/Islands though. Gaelic had an impact certainly, it wasn't used for long though, and is not the native language of what is now Scotland. Again, pick up a book and read. It's all very well documented.
Alexander Perry
*fecht
Jack Stewart
>blah blah blah degeneracy >blah blah blah anti english racism
Justin Cooper
>and is not the native language of what is now Scotland
So what? English is not the native language of English.
Scotland is a creation of many cultures, and Gaelic culture is just as important to the creation of modern Scotland as the Anglo, Briton and Norse elements. That's why Gaelic was used to recite the geneaology of the Scottish kings at their coronations, it is the language of our past.
Carter Roberts
Read the party white paper and see for yourself. Perhaps you (are a cunt and) agree with it.
How many bonehead SNP voters are electing these arseholes without understanding a single issue they are for outside of an independence vote.
Such as: Mass migration, Pro-EU, High taxation, Socialism, Ridiculous hate crime laws, pandering o LBTDGSHSQRT , Queen as head of state, reducing our military to 40,000 and on.
Going down the shitter: 53% tax on most of the middle class to drive them out of the country and keep the population of poor stupid people and minorities who want maximum gibs and will vote for them. Trying to keep us tied to the EU, terrible state of the housing and roads, I could go on if you like. The SNP are absolutely useless for anything other than whinging about another undemocratic referendum, and meanwhile this country is rotting.
Wyatt Lee
The best anthem is the scottish anthem. Piss off.
Owen Thompson
Aye its part of Scotland's history of course, but only a small part. Preserving it is great, but ignoring actually history and weaponising it for political purposes is not right either.
Caleb Thompson
>Mass migration, Pro-EU, High taxation, Socialism, Ridiculous hate crime laws, pandering to LBTDGSHSQRT, reducing our military to 40,000
Literally not a problem.
>Queen as head of state
Sure, but we would be able to have a referendum on becoming a full republic far more easily then if we were part of the UK. Australia's probably going to have one in a few years.
>Mass migration Scotland relies on migration to function as an economy. If we don't have a constant, steady flow of manpower into the country we can't sustain the current setup >Pro-EU The EU is, on the average, a force of good. You have to remember that many of the rights you enjoy relating to employment are directly from the EU and are on track to be crippled if not cut entirely following brexit >High taxation, Socialism The alternative to taxes being raised is to slash budgets for healthcare, local government, police, all things that are already having their budgets cut by Westminster. The Scottish government spends a great deal just mitigating the effects of cuts, to say nothing of the extra money that's pumped in outwith the funds allocated by Westminster >Ridiculous hate crime laws, pandering o LBTDGSHSQRT I agree that legislation on hate crime is pathetic, but you have to remember that this isn't something that the SNP does alone. All parties across the whole UK are in favour of this sort of law. >Queen as head of state I agree completely, the monarchy is a disgusting waste of money and space >reducing our military to 40,000 Our military is outsized. The only reason to keep such a large military force in times of peace is if you plan to instigate conflicts like the UK and USA do. The idea that the armed forces wouldn't swell in a conflict that threatens the country is asinine.
cont.
Xavier Ross
Minimising the importance of Gaelic culture to Scotland's history is just as political as "weaponising" it.
The simple fact is that people today are just reacting against non-Gaelic speaking politicians and historians, in the past and to this day, who attempted to minimise the importance of Gaelic as part of a deliberate or subconcious attempt at cultural imperialism.
Xavier Cox
Woah... so THIS is the power of unionist rhetoric.
Brandon Flores
It's another user thinks countries exist to serve their economies rather than the other way around episode.
Dominic Carter
Trickle down doesn't work you fucking moron.
Juan Rogers
>53% tax on most of the middle class to drive them out of the country and keep the population of poor stupid people and minorities who want maximum gibs and will vote for them As said before, we need more tax money to keep up our public services and infrastructure. I do believe that the upper end should be taxed significantly more, but to imply that the middle class in overtaxed is a bit of a stretch. A relatively small increase in tax in exchange for Scottish public services is not a bad deal - you must remember how much we spend keeping prescriptions free, ensuring elderly don't have to pay out of pocket for care, etc >Trying to keep us tied to the EU We need the EU. If we want to remain anywhere near as rich as we are right now, we need to stay in the EU and use the leverage it grants to trade at an acceptable rate. Even ignoring the benefits of EU law on freedoms, the monetary benefits are too important to pass on. >terrible state of the housing and roads for the last year or so of their tenure, labour councils actively let infrastructure crumble without repair or maintenance. This is to say nothing of the billions of pounds they spend paying contractors several times the worth of contracts they gave them, which we're still paying off. Housing is an issue and land reforms as well as greater scrutiny and pressure on those who rent out homes must be applied. What are you trying to say? Should we slash public service? Where do you want to take the money from so we can lower taxes? I genuinely would like to know
Jeremiah Wood
who said anything about trickle down you fucking jizzwit. I said you make your economy so it services your people you don't rag your people around making them service your economy. Typical of the narrow minded misprioritised thinking of the SNP
Julian Russell
>I said you make your economy so it services your people you don't rag your people around making them service your economy what did you miss the part where the UK bailed out the banks at huge cost to the taxpayer then sold their stake for a pittance as soon as they started making a profit? Did you miss the part where the SNP has continually increased budgets for councils and services in spite of sweeping austerity?
Isaiah Moore
When Gaelic was at it's height of use did they speak Gaelic in:
Caithness, Ross, Cromarty and Sutherland. No the spoke Norse
On the east coast and Grampians. No, they spoke Pictish, Then a bit of Gaelic, and then Scots
Lothians and Borders... nope part of Northumbria and Went form Brythonic to Old English, to Scots.
Strathclyde down to Dumfries - nope again. Brythonic and then Scots
Galloway, Galweigian was closer to Manx or Middle Irish. Largely replaced by Scots as well.
Gaelic was certainly a part of Scotland, and certainly spoken by the Nobility for a short time, but it was not the Language most of Scotland spoke for any large amount of time.
Important yes, should it be preserved, absolutely. But let's be honest about its use.
Gabriel Jones
It's fair to say I disagree with you in every possible way. But then you do make up the majority of opinions in the country.
We won't change each others minds, so let's leave it at that.
