It doesn't matter who owns the media. What really matters is what the media tell people.
Owen Barnes
Isn't Belarus useful for having a guaranteed pro-Russia vote in the UN, or something along those lines?
Evan Reed
> standard of life > economy
Thats russophobic
Benjamin Hernandez
Also nice buffer state
Thomas Butler
You are right. Poland is a buffer state of Germany/USA but if Poland stopped existing, Germany and the USA would still have some kind of narrow window to get out of the hardcore situation, probably (or not). But if Moscow lost Belarus, it would be game over for Kremlin. Belarus is extremely important for Russia because it serves as a highway for foreign forces going in direction of Moscow or Russian forces going in Western direction. If Russia lost Belarus it would be 50x more hurtful for Russia than losing Ukraine from geopolitical point of view. So you guys have a lot of room to blackmail Moscow now. I wish you good luck
Blake Martin
Belarus is not Russia Belarusians are Russians though Pic unrelated
>russians think that any country that is not hostile wants to be their satelite state they're going to reviwe USSR but not through war but "we just don't want them rebeling against us, also there's russians there"
Adrian Ross
Genetics doesnt matter at all. What really matters is what people have in their minds
Evan Lewis
I said that Belarus is not Russia >don't matter Doesn't change the fact that they're Russians
>Belarus every year after Soviet Breakup "We are our own country and people! WE ARE NOT RUSSIAN!" >The moment Russia decide to integrate Belarus back into Russia "Yeah ok we are Russian."
does that give me official permission to sing Kalinka out loud even when visiting Russia, and to bust sick cossack dance moves while doing it?
Colton Perez
>Google search Gomelchuk >Vladimir Gomelchuk, Petrozavodsk, Karelia, Russia >Sergey Gomelchuk, Kakhovka, Ukraine The absolute state of USSR
Nicholas Anderson
The USA was created by British criminals and Polish settlers/millitary comanders, and it is a very young country, relatively. Using its example as a basis for anything is a theoretical abuse.
Jayden Hall
CA hates the USA probably even more than Russia hates Poland. And the other way round
Gavin Garcia
Kazakhstan, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine and Moldova are all rightful Russian clay
Julian Watson
First ask these countries if they agree, otherwise you have a war
Elijah Rogers
Also Poland
Jayden Green
>Finland If you're gonna claim someone to be Russian clay at least stick to countries that can't fight back and are in worse condition than Russia
70%? Did you have problems with arithmetic in school? 82 mln is 56% of 145 mlns
Oliver Rivera
The pic-related list is corrected by calculations made by governmental centers and major banks whose analysis are based on real-life data and market predictions.
Sure. They have huge industrial capacity to turn their army into a global heavychempion in less than 2 years
James Williams
True, I remember Muscovy and Novgorod combined had less people than Poland
Julian Collins
Ohhh, so you do... I'm sorry
Nathan Foster
You are a retard. Stop pretending that you know anything about smth
Colton Flores
Anyway, i know one thing for sure: Iceland doesn't matter in any way, except of being a part of GIUK looool
Alexander Wilson
We are culturally and genetically far from Russians.
Russia isn't a real country. The name is not even Slavic.
Kayden Robinson
You speak as if being a target for bigger and stronger foreign powers is something to be proud of. I love that Iceland is irrelevant. Means that I don't have to worry about my people being sent out to die since nobody would give enough of a shit to invade my country since the only thing of worth in my country are the people themselves.
Jaxon Nelson
Finns are not close to anyone
Wyatt Brooks
Finland was a province of the Russian Empire. That's what he meant. It is not necessary to have something in common with a center to be a province/
Ian Brooks
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan
Benjamin Rivera
He's going all out.
Naturally a T-62 isn't the same as Leo 2A6 king dick L55, nor did Credit Confederario Helvetica give any assessment on military strength.
>You speak as if being a target for bigger and stronger foreign powers is something to be proud of.
If the Russian or the Chinese managed to develop a huge global navy in some miraculous way, you would be even more vulnerable than Poland placed in the exact center of North European Plain. So you better shut the fuck up and be grateful to non-existent God that you were so lucky to be placed on the world map this way
Jack Garcia
>Leo 2A6 king
You wouldn't even want to know how these Leos managed in Middle East without active protection and intelligent staff.
Jack Murphy
>you would be even more vulnerable than Poland placed in the exact center of North European Plain Pretty sure even Russia would be willing to team up with the USA and the rest of Europe to prevent that shit from happening. Not because they give two shits about Iceland or its people, but because letting China control Iceland would royally fuck over both of them. >So you better shut the fuck up and be grateful to non-existent God that you were so lucky to be placed on the world map this way That's some pretty good butthurt my uneducated Polish friend
Jaxson Lee
Russia is pretty much aware that if China wins, then Russia automatically becomes a Chinese vassal, but they are also well aware that if the USA wins, Russia is fucked either way
Gavin Gomez
>less than 1 minute between the posts Nice proxy and passcode, Olgino.
Nolan Richardson
Finland had personal union with a Geman prince residing in Russian capital Nevanlinna. Muscovites killed that prince and that's that.
During the personal union Russians weren't allowed to enter Finland without a passport and a visa and their money wasn't current in Finland. Obviously a real state has people that have something in common. Russians and Finns have nothing in common.
Adam Cooper
ok, moldavaher
Joshua Wright
250 western tanks defeated 4000 Russian tanks in Iraq.
Thomas Peterson
The sad truth is that Third Reich just shitted on the fate of Finland only because it wanted to have good relations with Russia. Stone cold geopolitics. I doubt today would be any different, as trade between Finland and Germany is 20x smaller than trade between Finland and Poland. Just interests
Christopher Nelson
>Vepsians closer to Finns then Fenno-Swedes
Putin confirmed as Finn
Evan Walker
>Russians and Finns have nothing in common. Why are you so obsessed about having common with Russians? We share the same biology so you are the same. And if we talk about culture you both are fcuking alcoholics. So you have so much in common
Colton Adams
> Lithuanian closer than hohols How?
Levi Sanders
Closer to Pinega 17th century isolated Russian settlement
In 1914 they trained Finnish freedom fighters to get Finland out of Russian oppression and 1941 they couldn't stomach the Russian demands for genocide of Finland, Igor. Stone cold Russians are bad people and Germans good -politics.
Geopolitics isn't an exact science. It's close to Feminism. Weapon tech makes geopolitics obsolete all the time.
We are not Alcoholics. You are the drug addicts and alcoholics. We have nothing in common with you.
>250 western tanks defeated 4000 Russian tanks in Iraq.
Yeah, and it happened in previous century, but panta rhei. Maybe the Russian propaganda is right, and the Russian weapon is already superior to the Western one... Or not. Either way, you lack balls to check it out
Ryan Jones
have a friend from belarus who considers himself russian so I would say yes
Jason Miller
THIRD REICH FUCKED THE FINLAND UP THE ASS ONLY BECAUSE IT WANTED TO HAVE BETTER RELATIONS WITH SOVIET UNION.
That's the real history, stop being delusional.
Finland became a "friend" of Third Reich after 1941 only because Germans properly concluded that if they don't attack Soviet Union now, then Soviet Union attacks them later
There is no values, no morality and no ideologies in international relations as long as they don't serve national interests
Jacob Price
It happened in this century and millenium, Igor.
You're bad people and attack other nations all the time.
Landon Brown
>It happened in this century and millenium, Igor.
Probably at the very beginning of it
Chase Allen
Where can I read about it? And if you talk about Russians tanks you consider Soviet tanks, right?
Charles Scott
Export version
Mason Scott
I see you're in the ropes, Igor.
And they fucked up Russia in the ass in by training Finnish soldiers for Finland's war for freedom. They also send troops to defend Finland. in 1900s Germany sent troops to defend Finland twice.
Finland was a Friend of Germany in 1914 and was a major enabler of Finland's independence.
Nazi germany offered a pact to Communist Russia in 1941 but Russians demanded the permission to genocide Finns. You Russians were offered half the world but you decided to discard peace.
You Russians are bad people and Europeans are good people.
Owen Cox
The same way Kosovo and Bosnia are rightfully Serbian clay
>where can I read about it If you're the same russhit you're fucking retard kid if haven't read about it.
Michael Carter
I am not Russia, though. You could say otherwise because i am the USA shill, being an expert on their geopolitics and reading all reports and analysis of their think tanks. I am a bitch of the USA, you can call me that
Matthew Watson
Russians are born thieves. Nothing more.
Nigger please. You know Russian.
Alexander Johnson
Perkele, be patient and behave like a human being. I know it can be complicated for a finn, but I politely asked you for a link. What's you problem? And yes, I am another guy
Cooper Perez
>Russian PM, D. Medvediev: "We want Belarus to be officially a part of Russia so it wouldn't revolt against us like Ukraine" He didn't say that, lying lyakh.
Wyatt Reyes
I AM AN AGENT OF THE USA ON THE TERRITORY OF POLAND. That's because i believe that following American agenda is going to make Poland better and safer. I am not even joking now.
Gavin Gutierrez
Lmao kremlinbots ITT are working hard i see.
Juan Wood
Yep, there's only 1 poster from Poland, such a tiny country, such a rare flag to see
Levi King
Just tell them that around 80% of Poles have pro-USA views and only around 20% pro-Polish/pro-Russian/pro-German views. You want me to post statistics to prove it?
Jordan Wright
Are fingols wanna be a part of NATO?
Luis Powell
Why Polish goverment so pro-American and russophobic?
Xavier Lee
>and Polish settlers/millitary comanders Uhhh did you forget the French. Also we didnt have a substantial polish population and only two polish commanders. We had more ethnic Dutch and germans on our side.
Jack Morris
Your style is the same as the Russian's. You're the Russian. Go fuck yourself.
Jason Diaz
Dont believe the shit flinging on here. Despite being douches they are Americans.
Colton Martinez
Who really cares nowadays, while Pulaski/Kosciuszko occupied most of the military statues and they are still not removed by BLACK-LIVES-MATTER niggers.
Nathan Green
There would be no downsides from it.
Samuel Scott
Maybe they are counting flavela monkies and their "police" who kill said monkies.
Dylan Hughes
Yes it would, one of us becoming a member would force the other to join aswell, and adding two more NATO countries, one on their border and one with an strategic island in the baltic sea would piss off Russia and force them to do something stupid.
Elijah Cruz
1772 - 1917 is shorter than 1848 - 2018 Plus Poland existed for centuries before 1772 while Cali did not.
Brandon Richardson
They attacked in 1939 without a reason too, so the actions of the countries neighbouring Russia have no effect on Russia attacking or not.
That other joining thing is just a modern Finlandization meme by the Finnish Agrarian party which is a long time Russian cuck party.
James Jackson
Shit. Not even a Russian could say something this dumb.