I want to know more about the caste system in India. I know it's officially over but still affects life. If you marry someone from another caste, do you change castes? What caste is your kid in? Where do foreigners rank, and what happens if a foreigner marries someone in India?
I want to know more about the caste system in India. I know it's officially over but still affects life...
They usually called 'master', 'efendi' or 'mestre'.
White foreigners, specifically Anglos are above Brahmans in the caste system
The pure Brahmins are European. Not even joking.
The varna system is based on your occupation, i.e. what you do for a living. If a man marries someone, the wife takes the varna of the husband, since the occupation is of the household.
During and after the destabilized period after the fall of mughal empire, the rise of marathas and various small kingdoms and the arrival of the british, this started to change. In a general state of lawlessness, zamindars (landowners) started keeping hundreds of indentured labourers and their word was the rule of law, and they were able to keep their status and position for their descandants due the general state of volatile kingdoms and lawlessness.
On the other hand, the Anglos now had most of India in their hands as vassal states while not fighting a single war by themselves, wanted to exert soft power to keep the insurgencies under control. They wanted to make India as British in behaviour as possible to control the increasing number of revolutionaries. In doing this, they started studying and revisioning Indian history and asserted themselves as superior beings with a natural right upon Indians. The used the already present varna system and transformed it into caste system which was heavily influenced by their own class system, and now your status and place in society was always determined by your ancestry and were forever doomed to stay like that.
A German who lived in India during that period has written quite a bit on this subject, Max Muller.
>If you marry someone from another caste, do you change castes?
You get your husband's caste. Higher castes could marry down and they would uplift the wife from the lower caste. It generally wasn't possible for lower caste men to marry uppercaste women.
>What caste is your kid in?
Yours
>Where do foreigners rank, and what happens if a foreigner marries someone in India?
Foreigners are outside the caste system. They are mlecchas. I don't know what happens in marriage. But in general in old world you followed your husband's beliefs. So it would make sense for the woman to convert to her husband's religion.
That's a dumb meme promulgated by 19th century anthropologists who didn't have genetic data. Even Northwest Brahmins have admixture from the Onge-like component of ASI.
Ah yes Max Muller the first Indoboo. I read about him in my senior Hindi class in a note.
Germans are truly the last respite from the anglo menace.
Can someone who is not brahmin attain priesthood? Are Buddhists outside the caste system?
Did you know you can apply that caste system directly to postmodern society
Brahmins = university professors who develop ideas and people in media who propagate them. Intellectuals & intelligentsia.
Kshatriyas = police and military. Subservient to brahmin as they force their policy.
Vaisyas = socially mobile working class and entrepreneurs. Subservient to brahmins and kshatriyas.
Sudras = Socially immobile poor people.
Top 3 groups are in constant battle for influence and mere elected government is just a front for that with no real influence over anything. Vaisyas lobby, brahmins generate outrage, kshatriyas better be kept happy.
What about skilled professionals like engineers, lawyers, or surgeons? Are they vaisya? I suppose they would be working class from a Marxist perspective because they do sell their labor.
You could but for most of the modern India you cant, but I have heard some villages offer preisthood to people with no brahmin ancestry.
Buddhists are simply hermits like all other mountain hermits. Buddhism wasnt really a seperate sort of ideology back then, just a part of the various teachings of different Gurus which became popular due to the state sponsorship of Ancient India's biggest empire and reach further south and east asia because of missionaries.
They are inherently socially mobile so vaisyas. Marxist bullshit is inherently retarded because it doesn't account for social mobility. Even skilled welder can start his own business.
>Buddhists are simply hermits like all other mountain hermits
How do most people become hermits? Are they usually old people?
>Marxist bullshit is inherently retarded because it doesn't account for social mobility
Tbf 19th century England didn't have much social mobility. But now in Western Europe at least you could easily reach at least upper-middle-class if you have a decent education.
>How do people become hermits?
When you decide the social world is too much for you and want to fuck off to the mountains leaving you family, freinds and everything else behind.
Do you personally know anyone who did that? How do they even survive?
They had tons of social mobility than any era before or since. People didn't move to work at factories in hordes from countryside because they were forced on gunpoint you know.
No I dont know anyone like that lol. Look up Aghoris if you want modern hermits.
All sages in the ancient times and in mythology were hermits.
>Look up Aghoris if you want modern hermits.
>The Aghoris are Indian ascetics[164][165] who believe that eating human flesh confers spiritual and physical benefits, such as prevention of aging. They claim to only eat those who have voluntarily willed their body to the sect upon their death,[166] although an Indian TV crew witnessed one Aghori feasting on a corpse discovered floating in the Ganges,[167] and a member of the Dom caste reports that Aghoris often take bodies from the cremation ghat (or funeral pyre).
India seems such a fascinating place. Are you a practicing Hindu? Do you at least meditate?
There is no such thing as practicing Hindu since there is no coded wordbook to follow. You beleive whatever sect and deity you want to beleive, whatever Guru's teaching you want to follow, and read whatever ancient leaflets you want to read. Even pronounced "sadhus" say you only need follow and beleive what you can digest in your mind, even if they are fucking cunts and scam artists and hoard money, which there are a lot nowadays.
I've read Mahabharat and maybe you should too if you are interested in epic ancient grand battles and the dichotomy of war etc and shit. But in no way its teachings have any connection to the modern Indian society. The ancient Indian culture is dead and buried and only its stinking corpse remains.
I've heard people say Hinduism is a way of life and/or philosophy more than anything else.
Isn't there a version of hinduism that believes in atheism?
What caste would a Greek like me be in?
Are Greeks Aryans?
>The ancient Indian culture is dead and buried and only its stinking corpse remains.
You seem upset.
We are above aryans
I might be, but staying upset and wallow in pity party over things that have happened in the past is pathetic. You can only look to the future and work in the present.
I´ve always suspected Greeks were ayylmaos
>but staying upset and wallow in pity party over things that have happened in the past is pathetic
What do you mean?
Why think and be mad over things you cannot change and have no control over? Sure I would like if things happened a different way, but they didnt and no one can do anything about that, so why bother yourself so much.
I agree. I just thought you were referring to religious people.
Maybe you are thinking of a certain dead sect of buddhism but most hindu sects are asthic(beleive in the concept of soul) rather than nasthic(not beleiving in the concept of soul).