average salary in russia according to google
>32122 rubles
average flat in my city, 1 room
>1800000 rubles
how the fuck am I supposed to leave parents house? the only option for me to get personal space is wait until my retarded grandfather dies so my mother can sell our 4 room flat
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the answer is in your picture
stop earning an average salary
This.
Time to bring the good old days back
communism in russia wasn't really about personal space
yes, government gave out flats to families but they also forced flat owners to accept people in need to their house
there have to be other solutions I mean really how the fuck is housing so expensive in the largest country in world
Lmao.... just go to your neetbux lady and she will find an apartment for you. That's what I did
rich buy up all the property then implement laws to impede new developments so their property increases in value without any effort on their behalf
you're not supposed to benefit from this system, the rich are, just move out of the city and live somewhere else
mortgage
>but they also forced flat owners to accept people in need to their house
There were flat owners in the USSR? I thought everything belong to the state.
>there have to be other solutions I mean really how the fuck is housing so expensive in the largest country in world
Real estate magnates artificially keeps the prices high.
The aussie is right
>I mean really how the fuck is housing so expensive in the largest country in world
Moscow isn't the largest country in the world
I just bought a one-room flat for 3200000 rubles in Siberia. That's pretty expensive.
пo-мoeмy тeбя нaeбaли
Prices rise up if you're in the center of a city. Is your flat close to a mall? Close to public transportation? Close to work? Close to city center or is it in the city center? Does your flat have insulation? Any elevator in your apartment? These are the factors that increase the price of a flat.
However I don't completely agree with the increasing prices. Because these prices creat a bubble and you know what happen to bubbles. I think it should be regulated. Prices in Australia for example are fucking crazy.
this's good price if it's talked about 3 rooms flat in Novosib for example.
нaпиcaнo oднyшкa
либo в cибиpи пocтpoили нoвый cвepхгopoд в кoтopoм ypoвeнь жизни вышe, чeм в кpacнoяpcкe или нoвocибиpcкe, либo eгo нaeбaли - никaкaя хaтa в cyпep нoвocтpoйкe тaких дeнeг нe cтoит
B цeнтpe и oкoлoцeнтpe ничeгo дeшeвлe тpёх миллиoнoв нaйти нe peaльнo. Hy, ecли нe paccмaтpивaть oбocaнныe хpyщёвки, кoнeчнo.
кaкoй гopoд?
>3 rooms flat in Novosib
>for 3kk
Hoвocибиpcк
тoгдa ничeгo нe cкaжy, я тaм лeт 10 нaзaд был, нe пoмню, чтo тaм y вac в цeнтpe былo. oдин хyй лyчшe бы ты бpaл cвoи тpи лямa и eхaл c ними кyдa-нибyдь гдe нe нaдo мёpзнyть пoл гoдa...
Hy в Mocквe и Питepe я зa эти дeньги тoжe нихyя нe кyплю
Based and redpilled. Did the same.
ecть бoжecтвeнный кpacнoдap, гдe мoжнo жpaть тютинy пpямo c дepeвa, a кyбaнoидныe aбopигeны бyдyт cмoтpeть нa тeбя, кaк нa бoльнoгo. и нe тaкoe oн yжe ceлo нынчe, хoтя paньшe дa, кaк бyдтo дaчныe yчacтки в цeнтpe гopoдa cтoяли
>tfw average salary in my small city is $45k/yr and average house price is $160k
feels good
are you telling me the average apartment in moscow is 27k a month and you're only paid 500 a year?
Пoхyй живи c poдитeлями, зapaбaтывaй бaбoc, cдaвaй хaты в apeндy, выжимaй дeньги вceми мыcлимыми и нeмыcлимыми cпocoбaми пoкa мoжeшь. He бyдь дoлбaeбoм кoтopый тpaтит пoлoвинy зapплaты нa cъeм хaты y пoлyдoхлoй злoбнoй cтapyхи.
>average salary according to google
>how the fuck am I supposed to leave parents house?
Stop being a retard and get a job, go to university if you already didn't. You'll earn much more than that.
>a year
He means a month.
>cъёбывaть из eбeнeй в eщё бoльшиe eбeня
Heт, cпacибo
Same shit.
Oхyeнныe y нac цeны, кoнeчнo.
Does every country has same prices?
1. You can by a cheaperflat. I'm absolutely sure that appartaments for 1mln rub in Novosibirsk exist. (those whih are not built yet).
2. Find yourself a wife, so you can share your money and buy the flat together.
3. Ask friends and relatives for help. Some of them can earn you money without paying %.
4. Find better job. Or additional job.
>go to university if you already didn't.
Oh yeah classic "without that paper from uni you are no one".
Our flats are comparably cheap. But our salaries are shit now. Good flat in Tel-Aviv is like 1mln dollars.
>rent apartment or room
>wagecucking
>loan
This is how people in 1st world live. This is how you suppose to live here too.
Are you a schoolboy who wants to buy a flat? If don't want to learn being useful you will never get a life.
If you think that university is useless - go to technicum, learn welding or to driving a heavy machinery. After that you can get not less then 2mln rubles every year working in polar areas. You won't even need to pay for an appartment. That's how anyone can get money to buy flat..
If you are afraid of hardworking in the north, you can try to become sailor and shit. Especially if you know english, you can find yourself a job in the foreign cruise liner.
One more way is an army service. But it's sort of hard aand painful, even if you are an officer. BTW, you can try to join american army. I heard it's possible.
Average in Russia != Average in your city
>how the fuck am I supposed to leave parents house
*Goes into government control*
JUSD REESDABLISH GOMMUNISM :D
Just buy some land in a village and build your own house. Nowadays its way cheaper than buying flats
Just rent it, like everybody else here.
Russians are obsessed with buying real estate, it's retarded.
>rent (aka de-facto slavery)
well this is how it works in the free world
or do you think everyone here has €300000 for a flat?
america didnt defeat communism but infected ppls mind with their individualism, thats their greatest victory
ppl will live in shit and piss and try to push down others just for themselfs to get by, instead of banding togather and achieve something as a community
Stay strong russian bros. You will get a nice flat to live in.
Because in Russia your pension will be so incredibly small (like 100-200$), it won't allow you to rent anything at all
You should work whole life, make savings, buy your apartment for cash or loan in you lifetime before retirement. You doesn't suppose to rent apartrment after retirement. It's capitalism.
first option: move out of Moscow/Spb and live in rural shithole
second option: bring back socialism. rehabilitate Stalin and put his body in a mausoleum
>wasting money is a good option
I'll never understand retards who rent.
>live in Russia
>make savings
>buy apartment
>buy summer house
House burned by bandits, apartment and dollars confiscated, rouble to dollar exchange rate 1/10000.
It's hard to get a mortgage these days
> Buy an apartment and pay 20000roubles/month for 20 years to bank. You will have your estate.
> Rent appartment. Pay 20000 roubles to a random guy for a whole life.
Pick one sane decision.
mortgage? what does that have to do with anything?
How else are you going to buy an apartment/house
just savings.
you have to pay interests for a mortgage, that's as much theft as rent.
Yes? EI think its quite affordable? We can buy €150000 while only country in europe that has lower wages than us is Moldova and maybe Ukraine I think. (with aid of family and friends, but still) Sure all the loans and stuff are annoying (fucking bankers), but at least you ill have property you can call your own.
Also, back to the first point I've said: is it really that more expensive to buy some land and build your own house? At least here its far more cheaper, from what I can see. Or simply buying random abandoned private house and repairing it.
>just savings.
Even in smaller towns it would take decades to save enough money
To pay for rent AND make savings to buy an appartment in a like 5 years you must have pretty good salary. Well, if you can live with parets, if you already have working wife, if you don't have kids, you can at least partly pay apartment, but still it make sense to take some loan, just to make it faster.
yes, I'm 28 and living with my parents, in about 4 years (if nothing goes wrong) I'll be able to buy my own house.
renting or taking loans just to be able to say you don't live with your parents anymore is absolutely retarded, they're stealing thousands from you.
Well, if you have a possibility to invest money good, like, for 20% a year, it could make sense to wait a little. But honestly it sounds fantastic.
>say you don't live with your parents anymore is absolutely retarded
Some people have no other chance. Where my parents live there's no jobs at all.
is tyumen a shithole?
>he doesn't live in one of the 20 biggest urban centers in the world
fuck off rural pleb
Who's the guy in the middle?
how old are you
>flat/apartment 50k euros
>building a new house 100k at least
building is always more expensive than buying a used one, repairing is soulcrushing and also very fucking expensive
Inflation stealing your money too. Taking loan probably even more efficient, not sure about your country, it depends on bank's interest rates.
so this is the power of Australian "education"
are you serious right now? that's the literal creator of Marxism.
I do now and my home town had 2 large factories but they shut down in late 2000s.
i need a chaste russian gf
Returning back to Russian reality.
If your salary is 60000r, which is ok, you can leave not more 30000 in a month to savings. It's 360 000 in a year. Small appartment which is worth buying costs at least 2500000. You put you savings in a bank by 7.5%. Inflation rate is 5%. So... You need 8 years.
It's ok tier. Better then average russian city.
>Inflation stealing your money too
yes but not even close to being as much.
and I prefer my money lost value instead of getting stolen.
last month the Russian government released a report which said Tyumen had highest quality of life in the country. they placed Grozny second (lol)
based. i know a girl living there.
It's like this everywhere these days. Look at us in Australia, the average rent in any decent suburb in Sydney or Melbourne is like $800 a week while the average wage for someone in their 20s in Australia is $750 P/W, this means most Australians in their 20s live with their parents or in sharehouses of like 4 people
>No, it's not true
>Russia is shithole
>1st worlders get good wage, they can rent flat personally, buy own house/flat at 30
>On retirement they can travel around the world
It would be great if you could live in a smaller town. There's just no jobs
>>On retirement they can travel around the world
Well this is true. Boomers have great pensions and are rich as fuck. We won't get any
>the average wage for someone in their 20s in Australia is $750 P/W
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Question for people living with parents: won't your mother and father feel sad if you move out, even if you get married?
after I moved back home after uni and becoming unemployed, my mother was so happy. She got to see me everyday and cook for me. Now she never wants me to leave, and she would be heartbroken if I were to move out, unless I got a wife.
Sir, that sounds creepy.
At least have the decency to cook for your mother, you mooch
>average pension in Germany is 1100 Euro
lol
+ net worth over one million.
There are different types of parents desu. Mine don't care if I live with or without them as I don't bother them, even tho, I could easily rent a decent flat but I just want to save up enough money to buy a house without any mortgage.
The friend of mine on the other hand creepily lives with him mom like she's his wife (except they don't have sex (I-Ii hope so at least)), they even travel together and go to cinemas/theatres (he's 24yo btw). So it just depends.
yes, that's common, I find it difficult to believe you had to actually ask.
>(except they don't have sex (I-Ii hope so at least))
A lot of amateur mature porn comes from Russia
no man, that's how she gets joy, cooking for me and taking care of me, she has to know where I am all the time, if I go to the grocery store without telling her first, she gets anxious because I've disappeared
my mom is taking me to the cinema during the christmas holidays ....
i-it's not creepy
>if I go to the grocery store without telling her first, she gets anxious because I've disappeared
>i-it's not creepy
you don't understand, you don't live with you parents
Wait for them to die and inherit their house?
I thought it was shit for me earning, in your money, 820940.17 rubles per annum.
Maybe I should start investing in Russia
>820000 per year rubles
You make 10 thousand pounds per year?
Yeah, it's a very poor sum of money over here. It maybe wouldn't be so bad if I had a low rate mortgage, but it's better that I pay my house off as soon as I can.
People earning £10,000 a year can't usually get mortgages, I was £16,000 a year when I got it and my wife was £36,000 a year. The firm she was at went under so she is about £14,000 per year now.
There is no way we could get a mortgage if we went for one today.
doesnt work like that but whatever
Is it true that there is a scent of freesia flowers on the armpits and feet of Russian women?
I wish my parents would leave me the fuck alone, I just want to cut off all contact to my family
What's your job? That's not much even for Moscow, I thought NEETs in your country make more