I'm dreaming of a RED Christmas

Based and Marxpilled.

Guy Debord is definitely up there

fidel castro because hes dead

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>capitalism is failing in front of our eyes

"b..but its because my party isnt in power!!!"

Gusano detected

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Liberals are against capitalism.

This guy.

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Based
Also REDpilled

Xi-pilled as fuck picture

Bait

>communism has failed miserably every time
Communism is not some kind of prescriptive remedy that is 'tried'. It is purely descriptive.
The concept of "trying" communism doesn't even make sense. It's like saying that "romanticism has been tried" or "biology has been tried"

>Hitler
>capitalist
This is level of education of socialists.

Who cares if he was or not? He destroyed the socialists when he came into power.

based

I thought I was on /christian/ for a second

brainlet, of course its a fucking brazilian

No he didn't, he destroyed marxists and communists, because he deemed socialist a german invention ruined by a jew (Marx).
Nazi Germany was socialist, Hitler was socialist, Mussolini was socialist, fascism is socialist.
It doesn't even take much of research to know, just reading Mein Kampf and the Fascist Manifesto should be enough, Or Der Faschismus in Seiner Epoch, ideally.

Pol Pot

>If I repeat propaganda enough times, someone might believe me

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my commie

brainlet

>implying that the opposite isn't soviet propaganda
>the words of nazists and fascists themselves is propaganda
I can list all the economical and social practices of nazi germany that were socialist, from redistribution of wealth, control of the market and industry to progressive taxation and anti-capitalist and anti-bourgeoisie instigation. Can you do the same for your side?

>capitalism will collapse any day now!

>the always present illiterate mexican socialist that has never read any socialist work and can't even define socialism
Yikes.

>Nazi Germany was socialist
No it wasn't. It was a capitalist economy but with the state overriding any decisions of private industry whenever Hitler wanted. In other words, the owners were relegated to effectively management positions but the state didn't nationalize or expropriate the ownership from them as long as they followed orders and just as they reaped the profits they were also expected to suffer the losses. The big industrialists were more than happy with this arrangement because on the opposite side stood literal communists. This was one of the main reason they financed Hitler in the first place.
Suggesting Hitler was a socialist while he was financed into power by the big industrialists is total retardation.

So it was state socialism. Gotcha

>Xi
DENGISTS GET OUT

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>It was a capitalist economy but with the state overriding any decisions of private industry whenever Hitler wanted.
You mean like the Soviet Union, North Korea, China, Grenada, Vietnam, Nicaragua, Cuba, Venezuela and everywhere else where they had "capitalist" industry (because it's the only thing that actually works) but the only industries allowed to operate were those affiliated with the party? Well, shit, it's almost like that is the exact modus operanti of socialism!

Im an anarchist. But Ersnt Thalmann and Lenin are my fav
youtu.be/AzBCiyDkXPw

Retards
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany#Privatization_and_business_ties

Antonio Gramsci

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>Socialism
>Khazar power structure
Pick one

Top 5
>Lenin
>Marx
>Castro
>Ho Chi Minh
>Tito

my great grandfather is my favourite communist.

Fuck off back to containment already.

Red. Red with blood of martyrs.
Red with the blood of the bourgeoisie.

You want to read about soviet history with privatization now? Unless you're making the argument that all socialist states in history weren't actually socialist because they had pacts with private industries.

If industries operate for profit, are owned privately, compete in a market, and exploit workers then its capitalism.

>socialist wankery is just fine but opposing it is Jow Forums and a no-no
Le cucked first worlder mentality.

Awwww

Ok, so socialism never happened before then.

How will conservative populists like Trump, Orban and Salvini deal with the recession that's due to happen by 2020?

Anything right of centre isn't Jow Forums you faggot. Fuck off to

>In other words, the owners were relegated to effectively management positions but the state didn't nationalize or expropriate the ownership from them as long as they followed orders and just as they reaped the profits they were also expected to suffer the losses.
This is where Hitler fucked up. In the end of the war these same capitalists were sending their money overseas and letting the german workers pay the bill. Goebbels had the right idea in the beggining, but he too got corporativepilled.

>Unless you're making the argument that all socialist states in history weren't actually socialist because they had pacts with private industries.
Except they didn’t you dipshit. The Soviet Union and friends had almost entirely state run economies. The most private industry you had was small scale farming or cottage industry in rural areas. Hitler on the other hand was butt buddies with Krupp, Ford, Mauser, and basically every other major porky company. Germany remained a state where the majority of industry was private and operate for profit in a market framework. Actually socialist states did not run their economies this way.

Yes, it did plenty of times. Cuba, USSR, DPRK etc didn’t (or don’t) have market economies, worker exploitation, private industry, etc. Nazi Germany did.

I smell a shit ton amount of virginity in this thread.
>Discussing about communism on Holidays
Get a life you incels.

*farts on your post*

They'll try to blame the immigrants. It'll not work, so they'll start to use arms to oppress the mass of discontent workers and unemployed(the ones seeking a job) people. This is when the true Revolution will start.

Communism is cool in theory but it just doesn’t work with humans at their current state of evolution.

I'm not a communist, but my favorite socialist/communist leaders and thinkers would probably be Tito, Marx, Kadar, Luxemburg, Dubcek, Sankara, and Lumumba.

Read Critique of the Gotha Program.

For me it's el comandante

OH NO NO NO NO
HAAHA OH NO!
LOOK AT HIS FLAG!

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Comrade, I'm afraid I'm going to, for the benefit of the board and its community, request that you take this conversation to the reactionary cesspit known as

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Adolf Hitler

The only based communists were in fact not communists but literal nationalistic socialists

e.g. Tito and Ho Chi

Technically you can operate, but good luck doing so in heavy industries without government funds

i might unironically consider communism if the people who supported it werent such massive faggots

Literally nothing wrong with nationalism if it serves a positive historical role. James Connolly, Tito, Ho Chi Minh, Fidel Castro and Huey P. Newton were all nationalists of some kind and were all based.

BETTER DEAD THAN RED

>Literally nothing wrong with nationalism
finally a leaf post that isnt utter shit

Fags need to be shot. They're a reactionary disease.

>unironically being a socialist/communist in 2018/2019

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>being a liberal after 2008

Don't need to ask twice.
Senators are puppets of the bourgeois state, doesn't matter how much he claims the opposite

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>image
see

Woah, did Bernie pioneer the shart?

holy shit haha

Get thrown out a helicopter

>Communism killed like MILLIONS of people,. the only true system is capitalism, which will kill our entire species.

>Tito

Take him out and put him in

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlado_Dapčević

>Xi

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isn't Tito labeled a socialist?