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What better way to spend Christmas than 宅飲み and 日本語
who is that lady with the creepy smile that i see around here
why do i get the feeling that she is going to hunt me down and hurt me if i either 1. fail to do an action or 2. actively try to do said action
So this is 何回め of your Christmas spending in that fashion?
I have thought she should be an American character, something of Disney or, so..
First time with 日本語, only started around February this year
つうか今日と明日ぐらいは全員日本語で書き込め
スレが死んじゃう、多分
兎馬
乙
>cheeki breeki
未来
将来
This retard again
未来この世界が終わる
将来日本に行きたい
How about 家飲み?
But I think I heard many other anons talking you are kind of a synonym of him ..
>How about 家飲み?
Fifth year maybe? I haven't really been keeping track
好奇心から隣の空き家を調べて吸血鬼を見つけた
黒い棺に寝ていた
>words with similar meanings exist therefore it is impossible to learn a language
梟の袋
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Guys I'm currently going through anki at 40 new cards per day.
I'm NEET currently so I think I should be able to keep this up a month or two.
My question is, do you think I'll be able to do this easier if I split my reviews / new cards in 2 or 3 sittings on the same day or would it be better to do all in the morning?
I went from morning to evening back to morning, it really depends on what fits you in a day and if you have more energy in the morning or evening.
袋の梟
皆さん、メリークリスマス
梟の袋
Thank you for your efforts.
I remember watching this show as an edgy teenager.
皆さん提案があります
日本語を勉強するのを諦めよう
別の話題を勉強しましょう
お断り
いやだ
袋の梟
フィルタを使っているからあのポーランド人の投稿が見えない(笑い)
That should be (笑)
値段
価格
Is there a different usage for both? Is one of them more common to use?
The former one is relatively colloquial but almost the same meaning and equally common. You'll see both of them everyday here.
And aren't you anons in the mood for confessing your deep secrets in Japanese today?
濾過を使わぬ
ただにあのマイナス四角のぽちっとでこのガキを隠す
If someone says "gomidesu" are they essentially calling themselves trash/garbage?
They're calling something garbage and you're supposed to figure out what that is by yourself because that's how Japanese works.
What if they put it in their social media profile?
Why are you asking me when you're the only one that knows the answer?
Words I learned today
提案
見事
将来
切ない
Words I'll remember
....
I am not Japanese. Someone I care about put this as her social media profile description and I just need to know if I need to fly down there and talk to her.
Word I will not remember how to read tomorrow again:
手術
この世界には友情が一番大切なものだと思う
>only ゴミです on twitter or something?
Maybe she just needs somebody to ask her what actually that ゴミ is.
I know you're not Japanese, but how should I know your and her situation? For all I know it could be about her but it could also be either serious or a joke depending on her personality and how important the profile is publically speaking. I'd bet she's calling herself garbage then since you're acting this way.
どうした狂犬
こんな簡単な言葉を覚えて出来ない?
笑止
自分の立場をわきまえて
Google translate tells me that "ゴミ" is garbage, which is why I'm worried about her.
What do you mean by how "how important the profile is publicly speaking?"
Is it twitter or line? It's probably serious since that's Japanese facebook/whatever trash western people use nowadays for social contact.
>I'm worried about her
It seems she just successfully made you that.
So basically, "gomidesu" CAN potentially be referring to oneself as garbage
Obviously if it's her profile description you fucking beta faggot
Why are you so aggressive?
When did this become about me? Don't have someone else to worry about?
>her social media profile description
Sorry, I overlooked this.
Yes, she's saying "I am worthless" or something. I think you don't need to take it so much seriously.
Even though the general dead, I'll still give out the card.
Merry Christmas!!
he’s a mentally ill shitposter, but you’re a retard too
No u
メリークリスマス, you bunch of weebs. Hope you get some cool presents.
I could use some untranslated manga. I'm sick of the dogshit scans I download online.
If you pay for shipping I'll send you a few years worth of shounen jump.
I plan on eventually learning Japanese so if you have any specific series in mind I could stop by a bookoff or animate and buy it.
What steps are you taking to learn Japanese right now?
I want to participate in JLPT next summer and get N4.
Can you guys pls suggest me course of action because guide doesn't really specify JLPT.
I have a Genki textbook and I also started doing anki deck from the guide.
Would that be enough or is there something else I need to take into consideration?
Pls advise.
I've learned the kana and attempt to "read" all food menu items that are 100% kana. idk what I'll do when I get back to the States. I've read through the guide and it seems very hard
Are you sure you wanna do the N4? It isn't particularly noteworthy to pass that test. I'd say wait for N3 at least. Hell, if where you live the JLPT tests are only on December like for me, you should be set for reaching N3 in a year.
But if you really want to go for it, Genki 2 should cover 75 to 85% of the test. A couple of other grammar points, vocabulary and kanji you'll have to look for yourself around the internet, but it's not hard to come by JLPT studying resources to cover those leftover holes from Genki.
>I've read through the guide and it seems very hard
If you're not willing to chip away at it for years, forget about it now.
Learning languages is not 'hard' beyond taking time and discipline. Your brain is wired to understand languages and if you put in the hours you will see results.
In a way I think this is very relaxing in a way. I just put in the hours each day and don't have to focus that much on what I'm doing. The only thing that will ever stop you from learning is if you stop putting in the hours.
Grinding anki just seems really goddamn boring. Would I be able to learn the language solely by consuming anime and manga?
Yes
Grinding anki is the fastest and easiest way to learn thousands of kanji
how? the guide doesn't cover that
I see. Thank you.
I was fortunate enough to live not very far from the Moscow where JLPT takes place twice in a year.
Why I would like to aim for N4 is simply because I need some relatively short term goal to not lose my motivation while I build up my discipline.
It is hard to concentrate on a goal that is separated from you by year or longer.
You can learn a lot of japanese just from watching an insane amount of anime for years but it's only a foundation for anki grinding and actually looking up all the grammar.
Would I have to pay close attention to the anime? Most of my anime watching nowadays is just to see cute 2d girls
no
you CAN learn Japanese solely by distractedly watching anime and not reading boring manuals
I believe in you! 頑張って!
Depends on how much you already watched and what you watch, if you know a lot already then you'll only look up new words once in a while, unless you watch something like taiwanese dolls then you'll look up every sentence because they're mostly in older, less used Japanese.
>濾過
それねー、その意味だとカタカナで”フィルタリング”以外の言葉ないよ。PC用語はだいたい訳さないでカタカナで使ってる。
I had been US for a couple of months and am still regreting my not being bothered to memorize all the words I had come across there and actively use them.
Fair enough then. 頑張って!
煩い若者
私(ワシ)の言葉遣いを正すな
No problem, just keep distracedly watching cute girls for a few years and then report back on your progress.
So how should I change my watching habits? I actually prefer reading manga so how would that work?
You grind anki and grammar for a month and then you read yotsuba while granding anki and grammar and eventually reading other stuff for a few years and then you're native level.
こんなのまで観てんのか…
>Which my friend had been raving over but I stopped watching after a couple of episodes.
I am afraid to tell you that you got enough senile in that you forget the existence of the specific kanji "儂".
Pick up Yotsubato and start reading. Look up what you don't understand until you understand.
The only difference between this and whats in the guide is that you want to skip initial Vocab and Grammar study to give you a foundation to do it all on the fly.
Doing it on the fly will still work but I suspect it'll take you roughly 5 times as long, or you'll just come to your senses after a few days and read a grammar guide after all.
忝い
Dolls anime takes some time to become fun to watch, I recommend you just watch it from where you stopped, it only gets better and season 2 is also great.
和風
In what context is this word used?
>if you say so..
今日はクリスマスだからあのギョーザみたいなの食べてんの?あれうまそうでいいよね。
What I am mostly coming across is
>What flavor of dressing for your salad do you prefer?
>和風 one. (which is basicall comprised of soy sauce and grinded onion)
When you want to call something japanese style
いえ、今年はクソまずい酸っぽいコロッケ(肉なし!!!何と!!!)
>酸っぽい
それ、sourなら”酸っぱい”で、too much vinegarなら”酢っぽい”だよ。
来年はあんまりvinegaryにならないようにね。
では、メリークリスマス。
sour af, almost like acid
和風ホラー
和風カレー
和風トイレ