You know you can live in a socialist country RIGHT NOW, right? In fact it is considerably easy to do so. So why don't you?
Hey socialist Jow Forums posters
> muh why should I move abroad when I can just simply help turn my country into a shithole
that's their main argument
not everyone can though, you have to do it for those who can't
well those socialist countries arent really socialist……read a book dumass
Are you both retarded or just feigning ignorance on internationalism?
what they're doing doesn't particularly appeal to me
I already live in a socialist state and I'm very glad I don't live in a massive reeking shithole where the homicide rate is nearly 60.000 :)
Real Socialism hasn't been tried™
Yeah, I know, but I'm waiting for the argie to say "why would I do that if I can help make my own country socialist?" just so I can confront him with:
No you can't, you personally have absolutely no relevancy to your country and even if you organize the process of Venezuela took several decades of small constitutional adjustments, billions and billions of dollars in funding from several countries and the support of the military. There exists an entire committee of people dedicated to turning countries in south america into socialists and they still only managed to do that in Venezuela and are still far away from doing it in Brazil, the most desired target of the Foro of São Paulo, backed by Cuba and many others. So it won't happen in your lifetime, then why not experience your desired socialism somewhere else?
And second, wouldn't be a little tiny bit intelligent to experience it in person before you commit to wanting to turn your country the same? There are literally no logical arguments against you spending a few months in Cuba or Venezuela.
Why don't you do it?
Brazil is more socialist than Germany, it has been ruled by the socialist party for over 13 years. Way to defeat your own argument, Hans.
Funland was going socialist for a long time, but now with right wingers in power it's becoming a shithole with immigrants. Way to go bourgeoise, another country ruined by their greed.
Even in the DDR, they didn't have as high a murder rate as Brazil's.
ARGIE COMPLETELY UTTERLY IRREVOCABLY BTFO'D
I'd rather live in Cuba than the hell hole that is Brazil.
>leftists spam the international (now leftpol lite) board because they are scared of the politics board
>tranny janny mods leave up these leftists threads up to bump limit but then delete anything making fun of cummies or the left wing
makes me think
Go ahead, then. Both are socialist and both are shit.
You cannot have any discussion on Jow Forums other than with like-minded people. It is very much a hivemind
no it's not, you misrepresent it by calling socialism a "shithole".
why would I leave my life behind? the whole point of socialism is to achieve international socialism, so yeah, we wouldn't leave our countries because the idea is to spread socialism to the entire world, permanent revolution, proletarian internationalism and whatnot.
but yeah, I don't expect liberal retards to get it.
>You know you can live in a socialist country RIGHT NOW
>Implying I'm not
dumb "argument", based literally on your retarded opinion and nothing else, so it's absolutely irrelevant.
but it's hilarious that you think Venezuela is a socialist country or that Foro de São Paulo is for socialism at all instead of social democracy, it's just more proof of your absolute ignorance.
and I don't have to experience "it", there's more than one kind of socialism, as there's more than one kind of capitalism.
there's only 2 socialist countries on earth and they're both Marxist-Leninist countries, and despite the fact that I support these countries just because they're socialists, I'm not an Marxist-Leninist.
that'd be like telling an ancap to go to Sweden because he supports capitalism.
every single one of your posts is completely retarded, keep it up.
You can live in a country with a NOMINALLY socialist regime but unless the means of production are in workers’ hands it isn’t socialism.
>Brazil is a socialist country
fucking hell you're retarded
lmao