Be Poland

>be Poland
>save Austrians from Ottoman cock
>get annexed by Austria Prussia and Russia

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trusting e*ropeans always ends up with a stab in the back yes

>be polish
>eat POO

we should have had the ottomans as strategic allies but muh religion

>The battle started before all units were fully deployed. At 4:00 am on 12 September 1683, the Ottomans attacked, seeking to interfere with the deployment of Holy League troops.[16]:661 The Germans were the first to strike back. Charles of Lorraine moved forward with the imperial army on the left and other imperial forces in the center and, after heavy fighting and multiple Ottoman counterattacks, took several key positions, especially the fortified villages of Nussdorf and Heiligenstadt. By noon the imperial army had already severely mauled the Ottomans and come close to a breakthrough.[29] Though shattered, the Ottoman army did not crumble at that moment.[30]
>The imperial forces resumed the offensive on the left front at 3:30 pm. At first they encountered fierce resistance and were stopped. This did not last long, however, and by 5:00 pm they had made further gains and taken the villages of Unterdöbling and Oberdöbling. They were now very close to the central Ottoman position (the "Türkenschanze").[30] As they were preparing to storm it, they could see the Polish cavalry in action.

You realize that Polish infantry was fighting as well and it was them who cleaned the way for the cavalry charge?

yea thats life for you

you bitches
butthurt bitches

t. Janusz Toiletski

WE WUZ DEFENDERS OF VIENNA

There is no gratitude in foreign policy

and how did Ukraine benefit from it?

This is why Poland and Turkey would be best allies. Next time when you want to slay germanoid scum on the battlefields we will be right next to you fighting together against our common enemy

There was no Ukraine at the time though.
It was still Russia/Rus/Ruthenia

Minor contingent that actually did defeat the Turks almost singlehandedly. You called the Poles because you retards couldn't defeat them alone.

>>a minor contingent of Polacks
>the largest army of the Holy League
>minor
You stupid nigger?

The fire was able to rise.

you ended up eaten and swallowed by Russia and you lost 300 years in development

it wasn't a ''minor cintignent'' why are krauts so eternally assblasted about us?
>hurr defeating teutonic knights didn't count because you had more troops!
>ignoring teutoniggers lost multiple wars with us not just one meme battle
>hurr vienna doesn't count
>hurr polish - bolshevik war doesn't count because 20 years later you lost
when a westerner sneezes there is already Nigel, Brian McFaggin and Hans Cuckenschanze jerking him off and telling him how great he is and that sneeze single handedly created a new genre of music but when eastern europeans do something then suddenly
>uuh the planets weren't in the right order and uuuh you slavshit

>Poland
>Ukraine
>development
Your highest peak of development is possible only under german or russian occupation

>has to count a country that literally fights it's last stand along with a bunch of German countries to make us look bad

Reminder that Poland demanded payment to bring their forces as well as the best loot.

So did the Brits to let us fight us fight in the first place on the western front.

>be Poland
>elect the Prussian king as the Polish king
>now Prussians are forced to fight the Russians
>le eternal Anglo feels the power shift in Eastern Europe
>attacks Prussia
>France joins the fray
>Prussia is genocided
>Poland is free

>expecting any army to fight for free
are you stupid or just a kiwi?

the fuck are you talking about?
the only German prince who ever was king of Poland was the prince-elector of of Saxony
Prussian kings never ruled the kingdom of Poland, when Prussia owned parts of Poland it integrated those parts into its own administration (making them provinces)

PLC was part of the European civilization, unlike Russia

PLC existed so long as its neighbors were busy fighting each other
once they had nothing to do PLC was instantly dismantled

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Actually, the west used to consider PLC as an example of eastern civilization, while Russia considered us as an example of western civilization. At some point they both had realized we're neither lol.

More like take credit for Austrian achievements

LEH BOĞA

kinda like HRE

Yes, the journey was long, but we got rid of both of you.
And you shouldn't even bring up development, Ukraine was completely neglected in the commonwealth. I hate to admit it, but Ukraine saw much more development under the Russian Empire. Especially in the south, you couldn't even get rid of Tatars.

thank you for your post, here is your banana now pls leave

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with the exception that the HRE was replaced by its constituent states, PLC was entirely annexed by outside powers

Shut the fuck up, you Brazilian shitskin. All you are known of, is degenerate fart porn.

take your pills Jakub

HRE was a meme and irrelevant shithole, and PLC was a fucking powerhouse, that succeded in conquerind Moscow, and was on the verge of creating a Union with Sweden and forming the most powrfull empire on European continent, while krautniggers were busy bickering about the meaning of few verse in the Bible.

ok Jakub

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>Vercingetorix
>Germans
are you retarded?

It was all Germanics you retard.

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>Vercingetorix
>Germanic
Are you legit retarded?

Shut the fuck up you colonial shit when the 2nd Vienna siege happened ur ancestors were fucking monkeys>
>99542989
Next time we must conquer hre together

he was Celtic

>Ukraine was completely neglected in the commonwealth.

because Ukraine in Poland had some degree of autonomy, unlike in Russia, where the tzar just murdered or expelled cossacks who opposed him and brought Russians there to build cities

there were no Ukrainians in cities like Odessa or Donetsk for a reason

but if Poles did the same, Ukrainians would be now butthurt af