Hello frens

Hello frens

Has anyone here built a brand? I'm starting up an affiliate marketing site and I know brand and clientele is basically everything, does anyone here have experience in this? If so, how much money did you start out with, are you doing well, and what do you sell?

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pls guys no more coin threads, I just want to discuss something that isnt fucking coins

Trying to do this but it's proving to be hard as fuck. You need lots of help from other people (or money which I've got none).

Tell me your tale, fren.

I've got like 3k saved up dedicated to making it, are you doing affiliate marketing too?

Not much to tell, still in very early stages, just trying to build something similar to salesforce (pretty much a deluded dream, i know).

I've tried affiliate marketing in the past and it worked but I feel like it's getting more and more saturated.

>Not much to tell, still in very early stages, just trying to build something similar to salesforce (pretty much a deluded dream, i know).
Nah man, the dream never dies.

>I've tried affiliate marketing in the past and it worked but I feel like it's getting more and more saturated.

I think people just aren't getting crafty enough or giving up too easy. It's about brand building, and good advertisement. For God knows how long people have been saying that AM and dropshipping are dead, but here we are, both are still prevelant. Online retail is becoming more of a thing now than ever, it's the perfect opportunity for AM.

>brand and clientele is basically everything

Well you are wrong, product and customer service (processing returns, billing, credit, product information and after sales support) is everything and your faggoty obsession with logo and 'clientele' is a modern caner in the world of commerce signifying much and delivering nothing. stop doing so much coke.

I guess you're right. It's all about execution. Everything you can think of is already out there in 1000+ variations, but 9 out of 10 is going to be pajeet-tier execution. It's all about doing it well IMO.

>It's about brand building, and good advertisement
>Well you are wrong, product and customer service (processing returns, billing, credit, product information and after sales support) is everything

I hope you realize I'm referring to affiliate marketing being all about brand and clientele, because that's how it becomes a success. You're correct on all those factors being very important, but much like every business, there are certain aspects that propel it forward.

Restaurants don't advertise their fucking tables, they advertise their biggest and most important asset, the food.
Yeah Bro, you and me aren't pajeets, we have big brains and care about quality. The reason I'm taking so long for my site is I really want it to look clean and professional, dumb curry niggers just slap something together in 60 seconds and call it a day.

Amen to that.
>caring about quality
Ask me how I know you're white...

The way that I see it, the market is saturated but only because chinks and pajeets make a gorillion AM and dropshipping websites. In an over saturated market, the ones with quality and professionalism always strive unless they're backed by a shit ton of money. Technically speaking, the restaurant market is over saturated, yet smaller brands and companies thrive because they have good service and want success.

I'm not trying to make the next eBay, I'm trying to get a slice of a very big pie. Just gotta use the good fork to get it out.

You're absolutely right, but what this saturation does unfortunately is make it a lot more difficult to _start_ a brand simply because your high quality product or service just gets lost in the vast ocean of pajeet shit.

Do you have any good ideas how to improve discoverability in such markets? I'm trying to figure this out myself. Quality is the way to go of course, but people won't know how good it is until they actually try it, and for that they need to find it first.

>You're absolutely right, but what this saturation does unfortunately is make it a lot more difficult to _start_ a brand simply because your high quality product or service just gets lost in the vast ocean of pajeet shit.

Pajeets don't make good ads or use interesting marketing methods, they just spam their shit sites through bots and call centers kek.

>Do you have any good ideas how to improve discoverability in such markets? I'm trying to figure this out myself. Quality is the way to go of course, but people won't know how good it is until they actually try it, and for that they need to find it first.

Advertisements are key, specifically facebook. Obviously the more you spend the more people see it, but it's also how crafty you get with it. For something you're doing I can't really say specific marketing techniques, but for AM doing video reviews and actually showing off the product is apparently a big thing. Since you're doing something like sales force, it's a little more niche. Through things like Facebook pixel you're able to target demographics, including small business owners, and that should really help. People who use things like sale force already know what they want, they're searching up ways to increase sales, you have to zone in on people already looking for a program like yours. You can't sell a small business growth site to any normie, so targeting your niche demographic is the most important thing in the world.

What's hard is a lot of small business owners are also weary of people taking advantage of them, these people don't have infinite cash, why should they spend what they have on you? The big players look great, why not go with them?

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Well the answer really comes down to relatability. If you create your site to help small business owners, one of your best assets will be that you yourself are a small business owner. Who tips the waiter the most at restaurants? The people who they themselves are waiters. You're just a wojak trying to make it in this world, people relate and feel your struggle.

I would say starting off, working 1 on 1 with people will be important. Your claims of a good process and website need to have merit, so by starting off working 1 on 1 you can give the best possible solutions to the people you work with. After trying your hand and having success, you advertise and include how you've helped dozens of small businesses grow, shit like that. That's when you gain merit, you have a good looking site, and you can let your program (assuming you are like Salesforce) do the work.

Of course take what I say with a grain of salt, I'm more knowledgeable in physical products and advertising to normies.

Yeah I feel like using Pixel will be the bare minimum pretty soon. What's going to happen next is people will get bombarded with stuff they're actually interested in, but will still be faced with the paradox of choice. What do normies prefer at first glance? It's going to be whatever is the most visually appealing isn't it?

> You're just a wojak trying to make it in this world, people relate and feel your struggle.
That's a good point. I never thought of it even though it's pretty obvious in hindsight.

This is a good thread. Going to save it.

>What do normies prefer at first glance? It's going to be whatever is the most visually appealing isn't it?

It's what gets your attention, or what is shoved in your face like a mother fucker.

Let me give you an example of probably one of the best ads I've ever seen. When the movie "The internship" about jewgle with Vince vaughn and Owen Wilson came out, there was an ad on YouTube. When you clicked on a video, it was the two actors who instantly said "WAIT WAIT DON'T SKIP THE VIDEO". Now I'm sure you know this since everyone does, it's second nature to literally just hover over the skip button and click it, but this one ad, they said not to. I remember legitimately stopping and seeing what the ad was about and what they said, because it snapped me out of my trance of skipping every ad.

Or how about those old ads that used to run where it was "SHOOT THE DUCK WIN AN IPOD"? It had moving backgrounds, noises, and was colorful. I'm willing to bet any person who ever saw those ads played them at least once. Break the mold user, get crafty.

Ok here's an idea:
Meme-based ads. But not those cringy forced ones.

Here's how I would do it:
1. Discover where your target market dwells (forums or whatever)
2. Lurk their community to study, learn and truly understand their subculture and jokes.
3. As soon as a fresh meme pops up, make an ad based around it, but get rid of it as soon as it becomes stale.

>Ok here's an idea:
>Meme-based ads. But not those cringy forced ones.

>Here's how I would do it:
>1. Discover where your target market dwells (forums or whatever)
>2. Lurk their community to study, learn and truly understand their subculture and jokes.
>3. As soon as a fresh meme pops up, make an ad based around it, but get rid of it as soon as it becomes stale.

Although this could work, it would be extremely difficult. It's hard as fuck to do something like that and not come off as a legit shill. However this is also about clientele. If you're selling to literally plebbit, yeah it would probably go OK, but to professionals? They'll scoff at you, they don't want to spend money hiring someone with childish humor.

My AM site is selling gadgets, as seen on TV shit, it has a wide demographic and it's normie central. Memes could work, but I'd rather take my chances with slick design and attention grabbing ads. Build a clientele then make memes, your already established customers will relate to the meme, and talk to their friends about how the company they spent money on is useful and has a sense of humor. A prime example is Wendy's Twitter or Sonic the hedgehogs Twitter. Those two basically pioneered meme marketing, take pages from their book if you really desire meme marketing.

Nah I'm not set in stone on memes, it's basically just an idea on the table. I'll definitely take notes from what you wrote. The way I see it then is the more professional the product/service the more difficult it gets to pull it off with memes. Probably not worth the risk in my case then, but could work for you.

ok next idea:
Carefully placed offline marketing. Again this won't work for everything, but I've seen a few extremely clever cases. For example I've seen some guy place dick enlargement website "business cards" on top of each urinal in a public toilet. Lame as fuck but I bet it worked.