Finland was a wasteland before the swedes ca-

this, fuck finngoloids, 1060-1080 best years

yle.fi/uutiset/3-10572756

Shithuanians wouldn't mass suicide at such rate if they knew that their jagiellonac spawn was finnic like rurik, odinn.

So Russians have been btfoing Finland, (and sometimes hiring Lithuanians to do so) since 11th century, huh?

>s-swedes were civilized and way more advanced than ancient finns

OH NO NO NO NO

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wrong picture

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Pekka pls respond can you tell me why the Goths gave weapons and armour to the Finns?

Bend over slave.

>Europaeus (1859) reports that the commoners folks of Karelia still remembered their former Lithuanian rulers: "These Lithuanians held long ago the land of Karelia under their dominion, and it is still remembered by the local folks. It is said they had a treasury barn in Ilomantsi, a building with iron doors, where they stored their tax revenues. And there is a tale that during a retreat from a robbing expedition to the borders by these Lithuanians, their one boat, full of silver, wrecked and drowned in Suojärvi."

So Finland invaded Narva (Russian at the time), but lost, and Russians then invaded Finland and forest to pay tax?

I'm a Karelian bvll, AMA

>bend over slave
t. proud n1c semen carrier

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Karelians successfully raid Sweden and Sweden asks pope to launch a crusade against Finland? But then Russians come with Lithuanian mercenaries and force fins to pay tax?

Wow. Karelians were raped by literally every single one of their neighbours? Was it the easiest place to conquer in the Baltic region?

Ahem...
FUCK KA---

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West Finland was

partajäbä doesn't have muscles, he's a skinnyfat manlet

They failed the campaign. (not surprising from slavES)

What about East?

but what about greater and lesser wrath as well as finish war after which Finland belonged to Russia for 100 years?

No such thing before 14th century. Karelians, Tavasts and Sums were the three tribes and hadn't yet moved to the lakeland until 14th century.

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We're not even their neighbors our population in 1060~ was probably like 50 thousand in whole country so probably a few hundred Lithuanian bulls got drunk and went to rape and conquered Karelia.

Yes finland is a great place. Favorite ck2 start

We ultimately prevailed.

Karelians really were nigger-tier, shame they couldn't even defend themselves

Campaign doesn't equal conquest

In 14-15th century Karelia in large part which wasn't under Sweden was under Lithuanian rulers who ruled Novgorod.

someones still mad about the sack of sigtuna i see

sigtuna was a trading hub full of merchants. Uppsala was the military and religious seat. It's a good thing sigtuna was sacked because greedy merchants died, and it gave us a good excuse to conquer your laughable "people"

It was 50-50
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Nöteborg

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>This time, he went further east, and when people heard of his travels, some Kvens met him and said that they were sent by King Faravid of Kvenland. The Karelians were ravaging his realm, and therefore pleaded Thorolf for help in return for loot. Thorolf brought this proposal to his men, and they accepted.
>When Thorolf had come east to Kvenland to King Faravid, they prepared their campaign; four hundred men strong, of which the Norwegians were one hundred. They reached the mountain where the Kvens had fought the Karelians. As soon as hostility was sensed, they gathered their army and marched towards the Kvens, hoping for victory as they had hoped before.
>As soon as the battle begun, the Norwegians were the most valiant, as their shields were stronger than those of the Kvens. The Karelians suffered a major defeat, and Kign Faravid and Thorolf captured an immense amount of loot. Thorolf left Faravid in friendship, and left the mountain down to the fjord Vefsner, then to his farm at Sandnæs.
>Thorolf later brought a hundred men up to the mountain and went straight to King Faravid in Kvenland, with whom he prepared a new campaign with four hundred men to Karelia. They burned the villages and captured a large amount of loot.
why are karelian mongoloids so weak?

>moonsorrow
Based Finland

>Kvenland
>immense loot
lmao at this story

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