Why do utopias fail?
Why do utopias fail?
It's in the name. It quite literally means "nowhere", as in it cannot ever be. Therefore all attempts at creating a utopia will always fail.
socdem sweden at its peak was literally the most civilised country in the history of mankind.
we will never see a society with that standard of living for ordinary people again.
>socdem sweden at its peak was literally the most civilised country in the history of mankind.
Fuck off, you brainwashed idiot. It was an absolutely terrible time. Everything went to complete shit between 1970-1990 circa.
Because most don't want to work, and the rest recognize human nature.
like what
Franco's Spain was utopia-tier.
A true utopia would require entropy reversal. As that is impossible, all things are destined to fail and die.
Probability, same reason if you leave a dollar on the floor it wont be there tommorow.
like what you have in mind, commie
imagine being this obsessed.
>Everything went to complete shit between 1970-1990 circa
hence why I said "at its peak", e.g. 50's-60's.
Is chance for x to occur >0% if so then x will occur.
kek but you are the one obsessed hopping from thread to thread trying to start an argument about "muh socialism"
with wealth, peace and stability, people forget what it was like living under property, war and unstability
if you look closer I have never mentioned socialism once in this thread.
you did, twice.
stay retarded my friend.
1. Lack of knowledge. Because utopias are generally based on the assumption that you can predict and solve every problem through some model of the world. Since human society is extremely complex the kind of computing power required to actually have a workable predictive model of it has never been abailable, and likely won't be for a while yet.
2. Incomplete power. Even with perfect knowledge you can't just will things into existence. You need to delegate and cope with real world limitations and human self-interest. This could be circumvented by having something like a completely automated AI run society.
3. Different core values. Even with the exact same knowledge about the world, and complete omnipotence what decision you make depends on what you want to achieve. This means that even if for some group of people with some core values it's a utopia, for many others it will invariably be a dystopia. What your core values are is a completely arbitrary decision, all logic requires assuming arbitrary axioms first.
*HUFF HUFF*
kill yourself libertardian
pass
If utopia means a place designed for pathetic betas then its because betas are pathetic and always fail.
there is no room to better anything in a utopia. you're already at the peak.