Hi all brainlets. When normiebase announce a new coin within a few months its obvious its gonna pump for a long time...

I just don't know where ETC fits with the major players. BTC is your secure money. ETH is your secure assets (dapps). ETC is? It's not for making better dapps. ETH will do that better. So I don't know what niche it's aiming for.

It’s right there on page 1 of the pdf. Store of value commodity to power IoT

Biggest selling point of ETC is immutability and becoming a store of value. As it is detailed in Grayscale's thesis (which is just a huge funds opinion though..). ETC could become the silver/platinum standard to Bitcoins gold standard (what Litecoin failed to become). If you think about it, with the selling pressure ICO's strain on ETH. The same kind of label (store of value) cannot be as easily applied for the long term on ETH. With ETC, there is an almost blank slate, which can be (and is being shaped) just for store of value.

> Check page 7-8

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>ETC could become the silver/platinum standard to Bitcoins gold standard
just read that utter bullcrap out loud and realize how completely retarded that sounds
his "investment proposal" also reads like one of you retards here wrote it
complete bullshit
pajeet-boiler-room level

>Store of value commodity to power IoT

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> pajeet-boiler-room level

Yes, because the largest two bitcoin funds would like to lose both their 5-8+ year long stretching credibility within Crypto and SEC license by shilling boiler room bullshit. Literal state of Jow Forums. I am strapped in, just as I am still strapped in on BNB since pre-march pump. Some of you guys don't know how to appreciate good things when they come to you. You gonna hop on when all the normies do, and ask yourself how the fuck you didn't listen to threads like these earlier.

ETC has a capped supply unlike ETH. ETC will also stay PoW unlike ETH.

When will biz learn haha

has nothing to do with the fact that this proposal is absolutely retarded horseshit
comparing the ratio between platinum/silber and gold as a measure between a random useless shitcoin and btc
are you impressed by this cumstained sheet because you managed to read more than two pages for once in your life?
much words
many intelligent
>Store of value commodity to power IoT
i can't even

ETC is your pump and dump

If ETC caps its supply (if it didn't already), then maybe it could pull off the store of value angle.
It's confusing for newcomers to see 2 ethereums, so people would probably assume ETH also shares the same store of value properties.
Also, holding value is really what Bitcoin is designed for. So the "silver to Bitcoin's gold" might just be ETH. Who knows.

I'd rather go with EOS for internet of things, where speed matters. Steemit doesn't need its coin to hold value, because users don't care. Posting facebook style and getting paid just matters.

>store of value properties
whole board literally braindead

Just ask yourself why Coinbase and Greyscale are so eager to pump this and not the thousand other coins?

If nothing else then this will be the new normie coin because it’s “cheapest” on Coinbase

> are you impressed by this cumstained sheet because you managed to read more than two pages for once in your life?

I mentioned that it is only a funds opinion, obviously not something written by the gods. Yet still, the Coinbase listing and Grayscale trust for ETC carries a lot of weight. And then lets not forget IOHK, Cardano, Charles and Coindesk all being tightly tied in with ETC. And ETC being the perfect way to get back at BTC from Ver's point of view (His Bitcoin.com and Barry's Sillbert Coindesk.com share writers and opinions).

But hey, don't wanna be convinced then tell us what's in your portfolio because you obviously must be making some much smarter moves than us.

Store of value means the coin is deflationary (or holds its value long term) like gold, not inflationary like normal fiat. Capping a coin's supply makes it deflationary like gold.

It doesn't use old code and no, it's not made to be an ICO shitfest like its retarded cousin. Even Buterin threatened to leave ETH and praised ETC.

but it needs a fucking rebranding
ethereum classic? what the fuck is that name

Good point. Also ETH is perceived as too much of a one-man-project. Like if Buterin had to leave or die ETH would suffer harsh consequences in the market.

When Ethereum (or should say Vitalik..) forked to fix the major fuck up by slock.it which was the DAO hack, ETC is what got left behind. I agree that it is a shitty name. But at the time I doubt there was a reason for anything different. And the project initiator (Charles Hoskinson) was already working on Cardano. (PS. ETC will be in the main Cardano wallet; talk about network effect).

EOS is a scam mate, noone should go in at this point. The pump happened, now it's in the dump phase.

Btw it's coinbase prime, not yet coinbase

I'm reading that paper.
ETC is having an identity crisis. It's falling between 2 stools.
Is it a store of value or for IoT transactions?
Being a jack of all trades means a competitor will be a master of one.

>Is it a store of value or for IoT transactions?
it's not even one of them
are you all braindead?

I'm not claiming it's either. I'm saying ETC will have a hard time convincing people it's both, when it hits Coinbase soon.

Not for IoT transactions.
To power IoT. Big difference. Read the article again.

But what about Callisto? Wasn't it the "next ETC" or something?

It's saying ETC will be used as the fuel for IoT transactions.

>Assuming that some percentage of these devices run Machine-Payable Web operations using Ethereum Classic and that a certain amount of value, denominated in ETC, will need to be in the ‘pipes’ as both the ‘fuel’ and money facilitating these transactions, we can begin to assess the asymmetric return potential of ETC.

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Right, still big tho.

> Is it a store of value or for IoT transactions?

It's a good question. But wouldn't long term IoT demand be a good thing for "store of value" aspects? Without ICO's constantly dumping back raised supply, "store of value" along with IoT use could make us converge faster towards the emission curve which is a good thing for growth. Considering most consumers won't be exposed to the IoT side; it may only be seen as a economical driver behind ETC.

> Callisto is developed by Ethereum Commonwealth, who works on both ETC and Callisto.

>Assuming that some percentage of these devices run Machine-Payable Web operations using Ethereum Classic
retarded assumption
case closed

*investors, not consumers.

What do you hold in your portfolio brainlet?

>But wouldn't long term IoT demand be a good thing for "store of value" aspects?
If there's a demand for that, sure. I have no idea. And I'm not sure if being deflationary (store of value) will have unintended consequences for IoT. There might be tradeoffs for each to do their own thing best.

Yes definitely big. Also the coinbase listing is possible.
Realistically price is really low right now and compared to eth it's just 3% of that market cap. 2x is the bare minimum from here to the listing, and if it even gets to coinbase then I wouldn't be surprised to see an 8x

Its already confirmed going on coinbase.

ETC should drop the IoT angle. No one will use them for that.
They should be the silver to bitcoin.

You have "Bitcoin Classic" (the original).
And now "Ethereum Classic" (the original).
Both are stores of value. Bitcoin Classic is slow to transfer. Ethereum Classic is faster to transfer.

Ethereum Classic won't beat Ethereum on dapps. But it could beat them on store of value, since its supply is capped.
It won't beat even IOTA on IoT, since that's not its strength. It has to have a focus.

wen barry pump it?

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Post a link or you are a nigger.

blog.coinbase.com/adding-ethereum-classic-support-to-coinbase-becb9a337e9c

How much do I need to make it?

I think ETC will go to 1/10 ratio of eth, 50$ tops short term. But its certain to go up, unlike all the other shit mentioned on here.

I suspect that the coinbase event won't happen for a good while.
I suspect that before then the markets will turn down again or we will get bore and end up trying selling our longs to each other.

> It’s also worth repeating that Coinbase Markets, Coinbase Pro and Coinbase Prime will likely have more assets listed on the platform than the Coinbase platform, i.e. listing on Coinbase Markets does not guarantee listing on Coinbase.

I guess we'll see, all speculation anyways. I feel like the value proposition will attract a fair share of IoT applications. Any whichever IoT application actually on boards onto ETC will probably have a longer life time than 95% of current dApps on ETH. And IOHK is working on R&D for a side-chain DAG scaling (Spectre/Phantom), which would simplify DAG's on ETC by a great deal. Not better than IOTA but it creates a suitable alternative at different trade-offs from IOTA.

Yes, but also on Coinbase Pro (GDAX) & Prime, which is the institutional gateway through Coinbase.

> Coinbase Markets—the Markets team is planning to add trading support for Ethereum Classic. In accordance with our Trading Rules, all ETC books will open in post-only for a minimum of one hour. If sufficient liquidity is established, trading will then be enabled on Pro and Prime.

prime.coinbase.com

> Coinbase's professional trading platform for institutional clients

For now I am aiming for Satoshi gains.

True but coinbase coinbase > prime market etc.
By the way gonna moon at least to 50$ regardless

So how long until we see the price go up? I've been wanting to get out for awhile but maybe I'll stay until the end of July.

Lol, are u awake? It goes up everyday

Only got 151 ETC. Let's hope it becomes like ETH $800 lol.

When is the listing, not for several months mayb? It will fade before then, people won't keep money in it more than a few weeks.

> people won't keep money in it more than a few weeks.

Grayscale manages a few billion in Crypto investments which all carry a 1 year hold to maturity. That's a few 52 weeks at minimum on a 1 mil minimum investment.

ETH never did a 50x

>ETC will also stay PoW unlike ETH.
Nice just mined 100k. actually im mining and buying eth until i get 32 to stake but good to know i can keep mining ETC after ethereum goes PoS

IoT apps will be fueled by iExec which is already part of openfog consortium
not this shitcoin

>0xbtc
Stopped reading there.

went all in at 14.50 feels good
Ethereum Classic is the REAL Ethereum

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>casper
>improvement
idiot

Any idea when ETH is switching to PoS?
Ive been hearing about this for over a yeat. It bodes well for my biggest position

it will disappoint as always get out before its too late and back in at 15

>When normiebase announce a new coin within a few months its obvious its gonna pump for a long time. I
dumb. Coinbase will add dozens of ERC20. no one will even look at ETC when they can pick ZRX, OMG, and other shiny tokens

ETC is the only immutable platform that is secure (PoW + high hash power)

ETH is a scam

>Hi all brainlets. When normiebase announce a new coin within a few months its obvious its gonna pump for a long time. Its 4-8% a day for weeks to come. Why do you hate money? Im up 50% since december because im smart and ride the waves, my portefolio is all in ETC for another month or so then im all in 0xbtc. Keep hodling your shit in a bearmarket and getting fucked my chainlink you morons.

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not to mention ETH sold out to centralization, ETC is Vitalik's vision

How the fuck is ETC a store of value? It's uncapped you fucking retard.

>muh hedge fund

Kill yourself. I outperformed all crypto hedge funds this year. Pantera is DOWN 50% for this year

Coinbase adds it cause they alreadyt have the infra from when they added Ether

And who the fuck is Greyscale faggot? You niggas always appeal to authorities muh ycombinator muh draper muh breyer muh morgan stanley

Go fuck yourself those faggots don't make more money than I do because they can't even explain what's a blockchain. Have you seen novogratz talking about blockchain? Stop idolosing these absolutely retarded rich faggots

>t IOHK, Cardano, Charles
That's literally just one person that you try to pass as multiple persons. Charles is an idiot and has no influence anyway. He's just a laughing stock

Why do we need another SoV besides Bitcoin?

Then what does it do? It sure as hell is not fast or decentralized

Kill yourself

WHAT IOT?????? There's no such thing as internet of things are you all deluded to the max? And how would ETC do free microtransactions for IOT

What the fuck does that mean? How do you power IoT? IOT DOESNT FUCKING EXIST

If you want SoV why the FUCK don't you just use this really obscure coin BITCOIN THAT IS LITERALLY MADE TO BE SOV AND DOESNT HAVE A RETARDED ABSOLUTELY USELESS VM ON TOP

> compared to eth it's just 3% of that market cap.
This surely must be one of the most retarded comparisons in this thread but you niigas have said only bullshit so far so it's hard to tell

Greyscale, Coinbase, Novogratz all control big money. You don’t.

WHY DOOES ANYONE NEED ETC AS A STORE OF VALUE?????????

no one is reading what you're saying.

rekt.

>And IOHK is working on R&D for a side-chain DAG scaling (Spectre/Phantom), which would simplify DAG's on ETC by a great deal.
... what?

Holy shit, always a pleasure to trigger people like you. Instead of rubbing all the evidence provided in this thread in your face. I am just going to ask, are you ok user, seriously? How was your day? Why are you getting triggered so hard? Is there anything you would like to get off your chest?

... WTF? ETh traded both under $1 an over $1000

ETC has no purpose, no dapps like snail for free money:

snailking.github.io/snailfarm2/

>acorns can only go up in price

wew ETC faggots why are you not in on this eth game?

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>Ethereum Classic is the REAL Ethereum
That's the only true thing itt

this. it will pull a ZRX. go up every day in expectation of CB then dump back

Vitalik is a scammer and his only vision is to scam others

IT DOESNT MATTER

One person won't pump anything in crypto. It needs a fuckload of money to work. Most hedge funds are not even allowed to invest more than 20% in crypto, and they have to "diversify" stop talking about your idols

I'm always angry it's a state of being. Get fucked idiot I just reply as I read

I am angry too. As a matter of fact I spend half of the day thinking how I will probably kill myself next month. I hope this gives you some solace.

I don't need solace and I'm not depressed faggot keep your retarded emotional problems in r9k

no

>you didn't buy low and sell high

The DAO hack is the best thing that happened to crypto since Bitcoin

It showed the scam that Ethereum really is

Every fucking fund needs to stay away from ETH

If their thesis includes IMMUTABILITY

Then ETH is not a candidate

Ethereum shall die when idiots stop supporting obvious scams

Are you Tone Vays?

No I muted that idiot. Was he really anti-ETH? I find that mediocre people and retards are pro-ETH. You need to be at least slightly intelligent to understand the ETH scam

Yup. Pic-related.

> You need to be at least slightly intelligent to understand the ETH scam

Is it this? bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1962536

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He still talks like a retard who doesn't understand shit and just bandwagons on what BTC maximalists say. His conclusion is that he can make fun of SEC that ICOs may be securities

How fukcing stupid is he? the problem is Ethereum is a blight on crypto. They lobbied for and obtained state support. That means it benefits them. Because those idiots are invested in ERC20 and ETH and don't want it to dump. Ethereum is compromised and infiltrated by political corrupt intentions. No one cares about fucking ICOs obviously they're a scam

oi, when will this get listed? The pump will have to run out of steam before then, r-r-right?