Austrians feel closer to Hungarians or Germans?

Austrians are literally Bavarians

If Hungary was rich, developed and democratic, they'd pretend they feel more relate to them just to distinguish themselves from Germans.

But since now Hungary is poor, it's a shame to admit you have anything in common with them so Germany is the only reasonable answer.

to ukrainians

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bavarians: servus
austrians: grüß gott
hungarians: szervusz

hmmmmmmmmmmm

HungARYAN
BavARYAN

hmmmm...

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more like it's Ukrainians who love to boast that a small part of their country used to be part of Austria-Hungary and it makes them 100% European and different from Russians

Youre still a russian tier slav shithole and everyone sees you as the same as Ukrainian. Funny how Poles are racist to Ukrainians and then everyone in Western Europe sees Poles as subhumans, toliet scrubbers, and prostitutes

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Austria was originally created by Bavarian settlers to protect the southeastern flank of the >H>R>E, y/n?

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> 60iq pshek
Where did I boast? Or have you not learned irony at school yet?

Cringe and bluepilled
I like you, you are alright fren

To bavarians most closely probably, after that other former states of A-H

Are you retarded?

MY COUNTRY TIS OF THEE
AUSTRIA HUNGARY

OBEY YOUR KING

friend of mine went to this ukraine vilage where they talk austrian

don't worry honey, wanna some sweety?

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Do such villages exist?

It's definitely not Germany, but as a western Austrian i also can't claim any connection to Hungarians or any of our other eastern neighbours.

You're probably shitposting...
Austrians are Germans, just like Bavarians are Germans. They live in a different state than we do, but apart from that we're identical.

Some Austrians deny this and claim they've always been unique and non-German instead of a part of the region called Germany, but they all know that their country is very similar to the Federal Republic of Germany. A certain region called Burgenland is quite close to Hungary for historic reasons, but overall, they don't have that much to do with Hungarians. Austrians and Hungarians didn't even get along when they had their shared state.

The Federal Republic of Germany and the Republic of Austria are very similar. But Austria is a part of the German region as we've been one for pretty much a thousand years. If I were to decide, then we'd merge again, but I respect that Austrians have developed their own identity.

>but I respect that Austrians have developed their own identity
Great, then you also respect that we're no germans and are our own ethnicity. You know, you're one of the few germans that actually do

yes, could ask here where it is but she is somewhere in asia right now

>have developed their own identity
You mean it was forced on them after WW2, just like the self-hate was forced on Germany.

Hm... I'd say you're one of many peoples that together form the people called Germans. Austrians, Bavarians, Badenians, Württembergians, Saxonians, Rhinelanders etc. You have a distinct culture and speak differently than for example people in Hamburg.

Germany is formed by many different regions with unique traits (culture, language etc). Austria isn't part of the Federal Republic of Germany, but a part of the cultural Germany.

Let's say the starting point in history is 962 (could also be 800 or something): Austria was a part of the region called Germany and the states that predated a nation state, mainly the Holy Roman Empire, for 904 years. In 1866, we split for the first time, but remained closely tied. Then we were one for another 7 years, 1938 to 1945. During all of that, Austrians were Austrians themselves, but knew they formed the Germans with other peoples. And I don't think that can or should be changed.

So yes, you are an own ethnicity and a sovereign nation, but historically and culturally, you are part of something bigger. This something generally transcends nations, but is mainly identical with the Federal Republic of Germany.

>Let's say the starting point in history is 962 (could also be 800 or something): Austria was a part of the region called Germany and the states that predated a nation state, mainly the Holy Roman Empire, for 904 years. In 1866, we split for the first time, but remained closely tied. Then we were one for another 7 years, 1938 to 1945. During all of that, Austrians were Austrians themselves, but knew they formed the Germans with other peoples. And I don't think that can or should be changed.
See, the Problem with that is, that germans always seem to forget that germans and austrians weren't the only peoples in the HRE, there were Czechs and Slovenians for example as well, as well as others that were not part of the HRE, but part of Austria-Hungary. I think germans always overestimate the "influence" the HRE had on us Austrians. Austria-Hungary was way more influential than the HRE ever was, especially since the HRE was nothing more than a clusterfuck of loosely tied together regions that never agreed upon anything and even waged war against eachother. So, no, I don't think Germans and Austrians are part of something "bigger" unless you also invite the Czechs and Slovenians for example

Why are you so mean? I'm not an expert on either Germany, Austria or Hungary, I haven't even been to either of those countries. I was just asking how austrians feel because Austria seems closer culturally with Germany, but used to form an Empire with Hungary

A Czech - or more fittingly: A Bohemian in that case - in the 17th century for example would have viewed himself as German, probably.
Same for Slovenians. But as the HRE was indeed weak, the people and states in it gradually started to drift apart, especially when the HRE became subject to more and more territorial changes.
However, Austria was the most important part of it since the Habsburg monarchy dominated the empire ever after becoming the imperial dynasty in 1438 (the first Habsburger was crowned in 1283, but they didn't manage to give the title of Emperor on).

Many other regions bordering the modern-day Republic of Germany are "invited", but the Dutch, Flanderers, Czechs, Slovenians and hell, even the French and Northern Italians if you want to go back even more, started to think of themselves as something different from Germany way earlier than Austrians (the first genuine thought was made after the second world war). They have more of a right to claim being non-German than Austrians, but are also a part of the bigger picture. But Germany and Austria are the core. This isn't wewuzzery, the French and Northern Italians are too far away to genuiely be German anymore, but the Dutch and Bohemians and Slovenians etc are closer.

Austria-Hungary was not a "real" country either. There's a reason why it was turned into a dual monarchy in 1867: To keep Austria (nowadays more fittingly only called Cisleithania cause it was way bigger than the Republic of Austria) and Hungary/Transleithania apart from each other with the exception of having one king/emperor. It was Habsburg-dominated, just like the HRE/German Bund before 1866. But Bohemians and Hungarians and Slovenians and Ukrainians and all the others weren't too pleased with that. Bismarck kicked Austria out of the political Germany in order to unify it since a nation state could have had only one monarch dynasty, but he didn't kick Austria out of the cultural Germany.

Hard to explain in English...

most of us are bavarians or bavarian-slav hybrids, hungarians on the other hand are closely related to finns and mongols. they are the remnants of a mongol invasion just like the finns.

I think you mean Lemberg/Lviv

We do eat gulsch quite often and Palatschinke derives from the hungarian word for the plazenta

their daughters

Excellent shitpost.

>t. mutt

>i'm a socialist and subscribe to the belief that only dark haired Persians can call themselves that, also Jews have no political influence.

>Hung ARYAN

In Lviv, someone speaks Austrian?

very good post

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What's a Flanderer?

Avar cigányok reeeee