watching the evolution of skydrama these days.
there is a plan B about taking down Sky.
the kidnapping was just a step, the next indicates a multilevel war.
massive FUDing campaign happening as we speak. But they find great resistance from sky
sympathizer.
Ladies and gentlemen, who is right and who is wrong?
Who is going to win?
Scams are called out, not fudded. Dont give this shitcoin more credit than it deserves.
I thought maybe I'll make some money buying the dip. But fuck it, not gonna deal with all the associated drama to come. Even this shit goes x10 I'd rather be stuck in my main holds still draining.
Too exaggerated all this mastermind plan to get rid of sky. Was following the events and true all this drama wasn't the best thing for sky, tho the value started to go up
Oh you are wrong. Sky deserves credit, mb not for the coin value, but for its project as a whole.
Better put yourself to work on a diy soon or you rather want to be left behind?
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> want to be left behind?
Left behind what? Some Schizophrenics dev's streak of luck? This is guy is batshit, worse than BTC core and BCash combined. There's zero credit to give. He outsourced some R&D from other scams to China to make hardware, wow what a feat. Could probably do the same in a hungover afternoon and without a whitepaper.
> if you see fraud, and don't shout "fraud", you are a fraud.
lmao get rekt skyfags
Im so sad to be left out of this scam vaporware discord pump and dump scheme. Oh please, let me in, let me lose all my money. PLS SIR.
agreed. the project itself worth a lot of credit and if you follow the changes, you can realize that it has potential
what associated drama 'to come' are you talking about?
you are Talkin like Synth is a God and he takes every fuckin decision. You naive, there are so many decisions to be made about skywire, fiber, code etc.
>mfw I was one of the people calling ETH a scam because of the fork with ETC, but now I hold 6666.66 SKY and know that all the people calling it a scam only know about 5% of the projects.
The associated drama of having an actual schizo in charge of a team you are invested in. Skyfags are the equivalent of someone in a borderline abusive relationship staying with and defending the offender.
who cares about any of that except some bag holders who can't step away from the project. Skycoin has showed us some of the least professional handling of any projects issues I have come past since I got into Crypto since 2013. But good luck.
ATTENTION
Glad to see we have both teams here with us. Fuds, I see you. Shills, I see you.
NEW RULE: more specific arguments, examples, realities.
We need to see through emotions. Can you put emotions aside and think of sky in a more calculated way? Without finger pointing Synth, just treat the project itself.
We want to discover:
1. Will skywire become a reality in the next 5 years?
2. Will skycoin survive. Yes? Why. No? Why.
3. Are there chances of vendetta from others involved in crypto who might be affected by sky's progress?
4. Any ideas who funded the massive fuding?
You mean paid discord shills versus people calling out obvious vaporware scam coins. Kill yourself rajesh
> NEW RULE:
Fuck your rules and explanations. Whenever I see this project float past I will call it out for the scam it is. And Sky team has made it pretty easy to do so. Hope you'll end up spending an absolutely horrendous amount on your PR cleanup.
this is getting to the point where there are prejudices in place and everyone is just on auto pilot when responding. personally, i m into SKY so it seems obvious to support the team.. i d like to distance myself from the fuds and the shills for that matter
I guess the fudders lost money and now cry out their frustration? Or.. is this a campaign with another goal?
these are serious questions
1.it will work in small communities, most likely
2. if skywire grows or if a big partner comes in, yes. also, it it is inbued with trust, regardless of its utility, it will work for a while, making profit for some, a black hole for the rest
3. dont know
4.who cares
Skytard cultist cope is very strong in this thread.
> Ignore outside information
> Drink the kool-aid instead.
Great plan.
This
> if you see fraud, and don't shout "fraud", you are a fraud.
>implying anyone wants your frozen coins
Kek
this cult needs to fuck off
Can't wait for the first crypto cult mass suicide. I don't think skytard are in deep enough for that, but its going to happen someday with a "lifestyle" reward coin that gets enough followers then collapses.
Indeed. Too many emotions. Most cryptomen's problemo is they can see clear anymore.
I do still sit on a bunch of skys; not that stupid to have only sky tho. Btc is my fortune. Eth my promise. And the rest are bonus winns
Waiting for the testnet to be over and for them to launch some updates.
Mining eth at the moment. It’s becoming too expensive and it take too much of my precious time.
I want something that can run in the background for the cash. Skywire seems fit to my idea. Most of the info I get from Telegram. Now I joined Jow Forums because a friend told me about meaninful threads.
Stil looking for those treating skywire. OP tnx for trying
It s a good coin, been buying and selling like crazy. Also for the bag holders.. it is promising, solid project. Some bad PR though. But may be worth it to hold a bit longer
Watchin out other threads about sky, definitely a war.
Skycky ppl, haters, skyfils, skyfobs everyone is sitting on a burning chair.
I still believe there is an orchestrated fuding going around. Very vocal, but weak in arguments.
"- Fireee!! - No fire" kind of dialogue
>frozen coins
>permissioned ledger
If I want centralized apps I'll use the regular internet. Things that aren't a big deal to you are big deals for other people. Enjoy your bags.
I see no PR going. Where's that? You cannot tell the difference betwee n all these ppl. Are they sky investors?are they bagholders? Competition? Party poopers?
>implying this shit does'nt fud itself perfectly
You can't answer those questions without knowing the team, sorry but they're the ones that have to make it happen, the only question is if you can trust them or not and imo you can't. How is anyone supposed to answer your questions without knowing the variables like team/project funds etc?
Also do you really think people are being paid to FUD Skycoin? It isn't even FUD, its rightous criticism towards a project and team that behaves like fucking toddlers. People are complaining about Skycoin because they think some methead schizo runs the scene and want to warn others and discuss this type of stuff. People are attracted to drama and Synth sure gives them plenty, naturally people will talk about it and naturally any bagholding investor with his money in it will do anything to bias himself into thinking its all just ''FUD'' (Fucking idiot word btw, FUD is litterly the dumbest fucking word in crypto, #2 = hodl)
And if anyone reads the above post without being able to even slightly agree, then you're a lost cause.
this has been a rewarding coin, suppose you were a good trader. i believe everyone should be rsponsible for their own actions. it is well known the fact that trading is inherently dangerous. i for one, am really happy with the profits i made out of SKY, cant say anything else
You must not know how criticism looks like and the only source of info must be Jow Forums thinking nobody but the team can answer those questions.
Criticism is about making comparison, debate and highlight strengths& weakness, not to take down a whole project because you can't take a crisis :)) wake up.
And maybe you should make up your mind. First you saying that the team has to know those answers, then you put everything on Synth.
And
Sabotage is real. And this is what happens right now. I ain't a fudder nor a shiller, but definitely not an ignorat.
There's a masked war.
Ya. Bitcoin needs to crash so you retarded speculators disappear
No you're obviously illiterate, I said YOU need to know the team, because THEY have to make the project happen. You can't answer those questions without taking the team in consideration. And yes my personal opinion is that Synth is a scammer and does a pretty good job at being one. You obviously never met cult-leaders before, I've personally been in a cult and its really hard to tell you're in one once you're in. And the cult-leader will definitely be glorified by the community, but the danger with these cult-leaders is they are so entrenched in their beliefs that they can't tell when they themselves are lying. If Synth does indeed suffer from this, then the blow will be just as hard on him emotionally.
Do what you will though.
Then you must not know the project and you just wanna preach.
The project relies heavily on people, skywire is P2P, there must be lots of ppl involved. The coin can't exist without ppl. The team is just setting up the framework. Everything is for the people. The team is updating ppl often. Are you following it even? I guess not.
Synth can shit through his mouth if he wants. It shouldn't matter as long as the project is set, the team behind it is not interested in getting attention as Synth.
Ok. Fuck Synth, let's talk in your language. If there was no Synth, what's left of this? Do you know more?
Nah its alright, enjoy your centralized shitcoin
Haha, thanks for the confirmation that you know nothing about it.
you're welcome
I think alot of it is coming from Substratum.
I mean think of that coin. Decentralized internet on the ETH chain.
Flippin ETH locks up if too many people are trading cryptokitties. Where is that bandwidth gonna come from.
9 million coins. 6000 nodes already up. Skyminers can't keep up with demand. At current production it would take 10 years just to sell to all the people registered to buy one.
2 new hardware projects are coming out this week. A Router and a hardware wallet.
9 million coins.. 1/3 of Bitcoin and people don't think this will at least goto $10.. No way.. it's going to $100 this year on the low end.
first cult you guys have ever been in? you're going to look back at yourself in 10 years or so any be amazed you feel for this shit
Just bought in yesterday after researching it for a week. Even if I lose 100% I have made many many many 1000% on other coins. I am diversified, so I am fine.
However, I do believe there is 0% that if this doesn't go 100% tits up, that it will not be worth at the very very minimum $25 EOY. Impossible. Now why would they develop a coin for this many years and then just dump on the market ? If they were exit scamming, they would slowly sell into FOMO. They certainly wouldn't drive down the price to sell at the low.
nigger, this is just a tiny branch (marketed to westerners) of a huge chink scammer outlet
>Just bought in yesterday after researching it for a week.
Sorry about your mental retardation.
You would have to be actually retarded if you purchases Sky recently, and were aware of the psychotic behavior of the CEO and his cult of shitgibbons.
Then you should publish your info to the NYTimes and collect your pultizer..
So tell us what should we be investing in. You seem to be an expert on what others should do with the money they have earned.
just look at the charts, nothing is more important. so far SKY is getting back up.. pay attention and things will be fine
it s worth having some SKYcoins in your portfolio, you never know when the dip will be over. you have to spend in order to gain, right?
haha nice take on the hater. congrats on your decision, sky still stands strong despite all the FUD-ing around here
is this sudo samefagging the whole thread?
Haterz are gonna hate. Funny though that they never provide any arguments. I'm uninpressed.
imagine buying tranny lu's scamcoin
nothing to see here, just SKY bouncing. sell everything, this is a scam. go back to your 10$ an hour jobs
ma fren, cant say you have not been warned. dump now and lose everything, bag and sell later for suitcases with $$. if you re packing skycoins, that is
Yeah I definitely hate having people who has been CEOs before, also people who invested in earlier promising tech companies such as Alibaba, those have no clue wtf they are doing
This is tranny lu, you suck at fudding
en.wikipedia.org
The concept behind Skycoin is strong but like others have stated, ideas are worthless without a proper team to bring them to life. All that has been accomplished is generic hardware packaged together creating a vpn. There is so much more work that needs to be done and if you think it ever will be finished you are not thinking clearly. Crypto began as a way to escape corruption but you’re willingly buying into it if your invest in sky. A sociopathic leader with clear alternative motives that does not care about anything but his own ego.
There are two sides on Skycoin. One are the public personalities: Synth first (an horrible image and "leader", whatever that means, because even if his intentions are right, he is out of touch with reality and the norman dimension) and sudo, pretty much an edgy angry forever-teenager in charge of the community. These two are really unnecessary, as are the main target for the hate (up to you to decide if deserved or not) and the fud (paid fud from competitors, mind you: people who pay to damage Skycoin, so let that sink: why someone spends money attacking a scam? => There will be news and proofs on this soon)
Now, there is another side for Skycoin, silent, bigger: the development community and the "ideological" supporters. This part only care about Skywire (hell, the last hope for net neutrality) and try not to get distracted by the pumps and dumps and the monkeys with nicknames doing noise. The guys in this group have a goal, and we only care about this goal. And the goal is not the marketcap rank, nor shitty cats, nor the public opinion: it is Skywire, period.
Now, does it suck to have the leaders the project have? Fuck yes. Was it shameful the whole last days? Fuck yes, you won't believe it. Did it hurt our trust and hopes for the future? Obviously: there is no cult, we are still rational. So why to keep supporting Skycoin?
Because there is no alternative. We need a private, neutral network everywhere in the planet, even if it is or will become mostly illegal. And the task is crazy hard and there are years of work still ahead of us. Because there is no alternative on sight. The solution of meshnet + crypto incentive, if improbable, is the only one out there. So we continue. By principles. That's why there are 6k nodes up and running even when the incentives are delayed with no info on sight. That's why we look at the other side when the shit show starts.
If you think there is an alternative to Skycoin that achieves the same or more, please enlighten us. Most of us will accept it with open arms.
Alot of you seem to be missing the potential silver lining in all this shit for Skycoin. This shit that went down presented a perfect opportunity to exit scam. The more time that passes, the less likely an exit scam, the more stale fud becomes. But the notoriety will live on.
>there is no cult, we are still rational
LOL.
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Nkn
3 new products rolling out of production today.
See they exit scammed at the lowest point possible AND then they went and bought lot's of hardware from the factory.
and no not just cgi
here's the insides of the hardware wallets.
Let's exit scam and make a bunch of new hardware!
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No it' s not an exit scam. It's a cult designed to extract and raise money from retards (like you) by offering useless junk for real money.
Mass produced chinkware. Amounts to a fraction of a % of the money people, synth included, have made so far. Might not be a straight up exit scam but having a factory produce basic boards is hardly proof of good intentions.
You people are hilarious.
So if I want to exit scam, I wait until the coin is down 20% and then I dump. Then I dump more when the market stabilizes at -50% and again at -70%. Genius. You have noticed that most alts are down 80% now right ?
So why are the skyminers still shipping. Why are people receiving them each day ?
Why are new people flooding the skyminer forums and getting help 24/7 to set them up ?
Why are they being given thier skyminer skycoins at the current price ? Didn't they dump all the coins ?
Why would the many devs sink so much time into helping people to set them up if they exit scammed ?
you fucking retards are beyond saving
no one said it was an exit-scam
just a scam
>just a scam
proof ? I mean besides your slew of fud and conjecture.
"Out of touch with reality"
How come? Their repo is not available yet (it will end up as empty as HPB, you will see) and with software only you end up with a half baked solution that would still be ISPs bitch.
To be out of touch with reality doesnt mean the reality is not understood. Instead, it means there is no connection with such reality. The difference is subtle but very important.
he talks exactly how I would imagine a cult leader would talk.
Full of himself with delusions of grandeur. By some stroke of chance leading people along.
the skycoin drama is a coordinated attack by the powers that be to prevent the meshnet from happening. skycoin is closer to completing its goals than any other "alternative internet" coin. I guarantee this same shit will happen to the other projects eventually. it's really frustrating to watch
Obelisk is alot more important than Skywire.
You'll come around
t.me/synthQuotes
Unironically I specialize in cult psychology and Sky isn't the only coin that, when I look into the community, reminds me of a cult.
A lot of coins suffer from the God-dev syndrome and it is worrisome.
XBY, Ripple, Tron and Bitconnect comes to mind.
That is also a reason why, when looking into the coin I look at its community first. If it looks cultish I avoid it.
Also congrats on leaving. One of the hardest decisions in your life most likely. Not many people recover fully. Avoid other cults(but you know that already of course).
Nexus. Look into it.
I'm not saying it's not a scam, because we can't say this about any of the coins right now, but at least they have an actuall plan how to connect their mesh networks with the internet providers to grant the decentralization and how to connect the networks between the continents.
I'm not in Nexus btw
I just don't think mesh networks are the best idea for building a decentralized net.
This actually makes me want to buy.
>Cultish, bad. Specialist, good.
Why are you people obsessesing over cult psychology. This is a relatively insignificant problem in society today. The big psychological disaster that is happening is mass aversion to responsibility. You see many examples of this in this very thread, pretty much everywhere else in the world. Think for your fucking self! Make your own decisions and bear the consequences! When you shy away from this actual basic requirement to be considered a human being, you invariably end up doing and thinking exactly what (((they))) want you to. If you are too much of a brainlet to be considered human, at least trying to do this will make you significantly smarter. You ever watch television before? On TV they love putting a "specialist" or "expert" on their show to basically control the minds of you mouth breathing plebs. Even (((wikipedia))) has a hard time obfuscating this phenomenon.
en.wikipedia.org
>>a lot of words saying that I don't know what I just said and don't understand what I responded to.
A lot of coins have communities organized around strong leaders that do not take any criticism.
Criticism is met with vicious attacks from the community members, very often extremely emotional.
Criticism equals ban.
Any form of criticism outside of the approved forms(and there are a few) is met with vicious attacks.
These above are just a few examples of cult behavior.
These are NOT exclusive to Sky coin.
These are worrisome on a lot of levels and prevent rational thought.
>>This is a relatively insignificant problem in society toda
>>The big psychological disaster that is happening is mass aversion to responsibility
First sentence actually negates the second one if you knew what cult is.
The strong cult leader takes all of the responsibility from the cult follower.
The decisions are made and no thinking is encouraged.
I'm not obsessing over the cult psycholigy. I'm worried that it's spreading, and people like you have an outdated idea on what "cult" really is.
so sick of this cult shit. why are people keep insisting with this bullshit???
They have no grounds to dispute the tech, so ad hominem attacks against supporters in general is their foolish choice.
Very Alinsky-esque of them.
Wtf, I didn't even realize this came from the literal CEO until I searched it.
Kind user, you are missing the forest for the trees. The reason that cults are insignificant is because the usage implicitly indicates a marginalized group. It also implies a mode of interaction with their group and leader that just doesn't apply to so many patterns of responsibility aversion. Is my definition of cult really obsolete? If too many people have an outdated idea about semantics, its probably just you being ahead of your time. Please do not worry any longer over my ideas, they are mine alone to form and mold thank you very much.
*Kind expert.
Pardon me.