Which is a better city as a foeigner, Seoul or Tokyo
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Both are bad
But if you had to choose one.
Beijing
I wouldn't want to live in either but I would personally probably pick Tokyo, I don't really have any interest in Seoul
Ulaan Bataar
both are good it depends on what you like, Japan is probably more attractive in overall
based and khanpilled
better for what? visit? live? sex tour? set up a business? find a gf? travel with a gf?
There is any Mongolian city that do not have a badass name? This is fantasy level name already. Karakorum still exists?
While I see these cities, I can only contemplate how cyberpunk levels of urban environment already exist while my city looks like some pre industrial revolution colonial village. Truly sad
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Better for having sex with the local women( Not prostitues)
I want to know this as well
Seoul is only the surface.
It has very big giant sized shitty dirty slam in the soul which Tokyo never has.
Seoul big slum.
Soul big slum
Do not worry slum in Seoul is Brazil level
Seoul is a shithole
Fuck gooks
You can do this with any major city.
Giant slum in seoul
No it's not monkey retard. There's only one real slum in Seoul that has ~5k people who refuse to move out.
If you want good food and to save money, go to Seoul. If you have lots of cash, go to Tokyo
Try to google Tokyo slum.
You can’t have many picture.
It’s Sanya and it is exaggeration.
There is no real slum in Tokyo.
Slum in Seoul is super big size can’t compere with Sanya
Pic of Sanya, Tokyo. Massive shithole where the poorest of island monkeys live.
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Both seem like giant, soulless insect hives. Even North American cities have more character.
Stop, let them go to Korea.
Korea is perfect.
Yes, Korea is lovely, have a great time there!
Toky...
Hail Tengri!
You can find only one exaggerated Tokyo slim picture in google.
There is no real slum in Tokyo
This is google result of Tokyo slum
This is google result of Seoul giant slum like a exactly third world
Shut the fuck up, You piece of fucking shit nip nigger. Korea is superior country that Yours.
been to both and in seoul rn. food is great and transportation is easy. tokyo ain't bad but any extended stay would break the bank.
Than*
I googled it, and it looks way better than the city I currently live in.
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This is 2017 of GDP per capita
Korea is poorer than Puerto Rico in GDP per capita.
So Puerto Rico is superior nation than Korea I see.
In GDP ranking
Japan is third biggest GDP japan alone.
Korea is 11th place.
How you can say korea is better nation what kind of delusion is it?
Tokyo does a good job hiding its slums but the truth is Tokyo has its shithole side as well. And the entirety of cities like Osaka look like Detroit outside of tourist areas.
Although really it doesn't matter since tourists won't be going ti these areas.
Yes and it’s only what Tokyo considered as SLUM Sanya.
There is no real slum in Tokyo.
But a Seoul has third world level of giant slum.
what have you done. you've summoned jisdf's chief nipbot, /u/takeshima_rangers
Its picture of 1950 to 1960 arround slum of Tokyo
Liar gook as usual
This is slum of Seoul 2016 to 2018
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This unironic Nip vs Gook shit flinging is the most amusing thing on Jow Forums by far
Guryeong Village is Seoul's only real slum and has 5k people dumbfuck. Meanwhile Japanese shitholes like Sanya and Kamagasaki house tens of thousands of poor insectoids.
Japan has no real slum like third world as like this
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Also out side of big city of Korea.
Entirely like a slum.
But why is that
Japan has more functional welfare institutions than Korea does
It's even funnier if you consider that it's an English teacher who came to Japan to get some J-pussy vs an English teacher who came to Korea to get some K-pussy.
nipoid camps in Sanya
JEW
A Japanese who has never been to Seoul "Seoul is fucking, Tokyo is the best"
A Korean who has never been to Tokyo "Tokyo is fucking and Seoul is the best"
LOL
Because quite simply much of Seoul is more newer. There's been a huge overhaul since the 88 Olympics. Japan's been going through serious decay since the nineties.
>Seoul is fucking
>Tokyo is fucking
u wut m8
It’s homeless not slum
Seoul slum is clearly huge size and third world level as like Philippine
Tokyo does not have such dirty big slum Seoul has
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I have been to both because I’m zainichi.
this. both cities are nice and have their pros and cons.
This except seoul isn't nice and fuck Korea
lol no it's not retard. I said that it has less than 5k people unlike the japoid hives that house tens of thousands. Learn to read, dont you teach English?
Korean economical bubble grows is fucking ended.
Even If you can’t believe anything but number of the chart of the stuck price is only truth.
When japan and Korea economical war was started suddenly korean stock price went to hell and now korean economical growth bubble was ended by it.
Because 30% of Invest of JP YEN was disappeared from the Korea.
JPYEN is one of the most hardest currency of the world next to US doller.
Korean seems doesn’t understand this meaning but Japanese economical sanction was not seriously started but just JPYEN investing money in korea was escaped from the korea and only it made the END of korean economical grouth bubble.
Even If you can’t believe anything but number of the chart of the stuck price is only truth,
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This is 2017 of GDP per capita
Korea is poorer than Puerto Rico in GDP per capita.
So Puerto Rico is superior nation than Korea I see.
In GDP ranking
Japan is third biggest GDP japan alone.
Korea is 11th place.
How you can say korea is better nation what kind of delusion is it?
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>>japoid hives that house tens of thousands.
where? Show me. That what you say of Japanese slum?
Japan has no real giant slum as like Seoul has like this way as like Philippine
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This is Sanya it’s considered slum in japan
Tokyo >>>>>>>>>>>> Seoul
Japan >>>>>>>>>>>> South Korea
Japanese Food >>>>>>>>> Korean food
Japanese >>>>>>>>> Korean
Don't even @ me, Fuck you
Lmfao nip monkey lost so he resorts to his unrelated copypastas. Typical
Maybe I'll visit and throw some coins at Sanya monkeys one day
in real life do nips and koreans hate each other so much?
Holy fuck retard, I said 5k live in Guryong slum. While tens of thousands live in shitholes like Sanya and Kamagasaki. The sizes are incomparable
More nipoid tents
>>Holy fuck retard, I said 5k live in Guryong slum. While tens of thousands live in shitholes like Sanya and Kamagasaki. The sizes are incomparable
Korean lair all the time
Show me that thousand of giant Tokyo slum you have mentioned if it’s existed.
as like this shitty slum of Seoul
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Seoul is more modern and much better if you're a foreigner that has no intention of learning the language and all that.
This isn't even opinion. Seoul industrialized after Japan. Parts of Tokyo are just stagnant.
SK is also the more westernized and that's evident from the fact that their people are just that much more fluent in English and aware of western pop culture. Don't get me wrong, East Asia's ability to speak English is atrocious (probably the worst in all of Asia) but SK is the turd with a diamond among the other turds.
I can't comment on the the girls and the hook up scene. Arr rook same.
Japan and South Korea are nearly at war.
In 2018, the Korean government decided to force Japan to pay $24 billion with the money coming from the 245 Japanese companies operating in Korea. Korea tries to force this again and again and again as compensation for WW2.
The economic relationship of Japan and Korea has ended and there is now an economic war.
Japanese government is now saying that it might send the members of the Japanese Embassy in Korea back to Japan
This is where we are now. Korea is so antagonistic to Japan right now.
A Republic of Korea naval vessel directed its fire-control radar at an MSDF patrol aircraft, while in the border of Japanese EEZ sea territory. This is one of the videos showing Korean international law violations. Here is the video of it:
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Also, a Japanese Sea Reconnaissance SDF airplane has been irradiated by a laser pointer from a ship belonging to the Korean army. Previously, it was understood that interfering with the patrol duty was unacceptable and not to be done. Laser point irradiation is consistent with missile launch behavior. Imagine your air planes are shot down by missiles from the Korean army? It could be argued that Korean troops did war acts on the Japanese Self Defense Forces! South Korea is already enemy based on the military act.
>Seoul is more modern and much better
De seguro te gusta el kpop maldito insecto, Tokyo aplasta a cualquier ciudad del mundo.
i'm antiwar so im going to ignore your opinion because you nips have been so aggressive
Sorry but you used a picture of Paris
If you want to live in a extremely xenophobic, racist, irritating, boring, stressful, gloomy and depressing town, go Tokyo.
>deny war crimes
>still worshipping war criminals at yasukuni shrine
>brainwash children with distorted history
>"believe me, koreans are lying"
Nah. It doesn't work. Dumb nip logic.
>>war crime
Is it true that 200,000 korean comfort women during WW2 were no more than sex slaves who were forcefully kidnapped, raped, and massacred by the brutal Japanese army as Korean claims?
Please Read The preface of the final IWG report to Congress.
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In search of the evidence to back up the comfort women’s claims, the U.S government investigated the $30 million that was spent over seven years. A large number of US government officials and historians scrutinized 8500000 of the pastofficial documents thoroughly. Alas, there was no any evidence. Eventually, $30 million was wasted in vain.
This report was made by The Nazi War Crimes and Japanese Imperial Government Records Interagency Working Group.
It is a United States Government Interagency group.
Please see this Wikipedia article for further information.
en.m.wikipedia.org
"Licensed prostitution was legal in prewar Japan, and Allied officials viewed the small part of the overseas system they uncovered as an extension of homeland practices. Prosecuting Japanese soldiers for rape, a notorious crime everywhere the army set foot, took precedence over investigating the circumstances of “comfort women,” who were seen as professional prostitutes, not as unwilling victims coerced into brothels by employees of the Japanese military."
This analysis is in line with the "Japanese Prisoner of War Interrogation Report 49" written in 1944, which describes "A 'comfort girl' to be nothing more than a prostitute or 'professional camp follower' attached to the Japanese Army for the benefit of the soldiers."
The report further stated that this practice was not charged with criminal acts.
"In part to reduce local resentment against Japan and in part to prevent the spread of venereal disease among its ranks, the Japanese military contracted private vendors to set up “comfort stations” for the troops as early as 1932. Again, this practice was known to the Allies but no criminal charges were filed at the trials."
Agencies were advised that special attention should be directed toward locating any records related to the “so-called 'comfort women' program, also known as the Japanesesystematically enslaving women of various populations for sexual purposes."
However, the IWG expressed disappointment at the preface of the report because the IWG uncovered and released very few Asian theatre records.
thus, the IWG apologized to the Global Alliance for Preserving the History of WWII in Asia,which was involved in the commencement of this project.
As you can see, there is not really any real evidence of backing up the stories of the 200,000 sex-slaves (Comfort Women) by the Japanese army in World War II.
Even that number of the 200,000 korean comfort woman itself is no any confirmation and no any realistic supporting evidence of it.
During the Pacific War, 10,000 to 20,000 people worked as comfort women in Japanese military About half were Japanese who apply job by herself and about 20% were Koreans.
200,000 of korean only comfort woman is just impossible.
All we have related this issue are testimonies which suddenly appeared around 1980 and they’re barely supported by any real evidence.
Yes, the Japanese did commit various war crimes, including rape, just as it’s happened in any other war fought by anyother army, even during this century. But those criminals are arrested and punished by Japanese law system during the war and also after the war.
The point is, this comfort woman situation has involved exaggerated and fabricated information.
The story of the 200,000 comfort woman involves mass kidnapping, mass rape and mass murdering of all of those under the command of the Japanese army are just a exaggerated and fabricated storys and no evidence as result of survey conducted by the national American historians team.
The final IWG report to Congress.
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Also here is the evidence of the comfort woman had really high payments.
A former comfort women participated in a trail in 1992 that they wanted japan to refund the money she collected at that time to the Japanese post office.
26,145 yen (now converted about 40 million yen) which deposited 12 times from June 1943 to September 1945.
40,000 is equivalent to 20 million yen nowadays. That’s staggering.
Monthly income comparison (1943)
· Prime Minister 800 yen Tojo Hideki
· General Army 550 yen
· Sergeant Chair 32 ~ 75 yen
· Sergeant Armament 23 ~ 32 yen
· Corporal, 20 Yen
· Heavyweight commander 13,5 yen
· Secondary soldier 10,5 yen
· First class soldier 9 yen
· Second Nurse Secondary 9 ~ 6 yen
The comfort women at the time repaid the parent's debt after being prepaid 300-1500 yen. You can see how much that’s worth by comparing it to the list above.
This is nothing but a job.
And it’s not just a “sex slave” situation.
Next
How much has japan compensated Korea, and why does Korea insist that the Japanese never apologised nor compensated for their actions, even to this day?
The only reason? Money.
Korea have never stopped asking for compensation, even until now.
In 1965, Japan and Korea signed the Japan-Korea Basic Treaty, Japan was granted $ 300 million (about 108 billion yen) for free, 200 million dollars (about 72 billion yen) for a fee, 300 million dollars for private loans , The total amount of 800 million dollars [currently converted 4,500 billion yen] was paid.
Japan's private assets in Korea amount to 5.3 billion dollars (1.98 trillion yen, about 15 trillion yen now converted)
Infrastructure improvement introduced in Korea by Japan 【60 trillion yen】
>tfw there are favelas in 1st world
Feels good man
See how many japs are going to use “no evidence” as an excuse, while looking at the evidence.
Also, japs are giving incorrect history education, and they think it is true and incite them with distorted information.
Brainwashing is real in nipland.
in the Japan-Korea Basic Treaty, the following words are written. "Confirm that post-war processing will be complete and ultimately resolved" (Article 2, Article 1 of the Agreement)
However, after the conclusion of the treaty, South Korea utilized the money from Japan for national development without paying individuals for compensation. There is no doubt that the economic growth of Korea, which was said to be "the Han River's miracle", was made with the efforts of the Korean people, with the liquidation paid for this and North and South Korea as the driving force.
And the Korean government surprisingly, has not informed the people about this treaty. Is it to conceal what was diverted to national development without paying to individuals? Or maybe it is to aim for an increase in Japanese hate within the Korean people? Or perhaps both?
For that reason, Korea still considers that Japan is not fulfilling its promise and is outraged. Also, they are suing for damages that ended in Japan, and this is creating one of the big gaps between Japan and Korea. I think that it is necessary to know this well as well as Korean citizens and Japanese people.
Incidentally, this amount of compensation is for all areas of the Korean Peninsula, they took money for North Korea from Japan and used it for South Korea and they’re still asking compensation from japan, even now!
That’s not a very good look for South Korea, who only seem to be thinking of the money..
No
It’s survey of the national historians team of USA not Japanese denial.
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>"Licensed prostitution was legal in prewar Japan, and Allied officials viewed the small part of the overseas system they uncovered as an extension of homeland practices. Prosecuting Japanese soldiers for rape, a notorious crime everywhere the army set foot, took precedence over investigating the circumstances of “comfort women,” who were seen as professional prostitutes, not as unwilling victims coerced into brothels by employees of the Japanese military."
>This analysis is in line with the "Japanese Prisoner of War Interrogation Report 49" written in 1944, which describes "A 'comfort girl' to be nothing more than a prostitute or 'professional camp follower' attached to the Japanese Army for the benefit of the soldiers."
>The report further stated that this practice was not charged with criminal acts.
>"In part to reduce local resentment against Japan and in part to prevent the spread of venereal disease among its ranks, the Japanese military contracted private vendors to set up “comfort stations” for the troops as early as 1932. Again, this practice was known to the Allies but no criminal charges were filed at the trials."
South Korea is not first world look
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This is 2017 of GDP per capita
Korea is poorer than Puerto Rico in GDP per capita.
So if the korean usual logic, Puerto Rico is superior nation than Korea I see.
In GDP ranking
Japan is third biggest GDP japan alone.
Korea is 11th place.
How you can say korea is better nation what kind of delusion is it?
Did you know shamisens are made of cat skin? Please share and spread this cruel fact to stop we Japanese's brutality.
Please know the reality of gender discrimination in Japan.
The UN warned Japanese men to stop discriminating women many times, but nothing has changed.
We need international help to change. Japanese society is already dominated by men so women alone has not enough power.
Lol gook
Kek
/u/takeshima_rangers ruins another thread with his autism yet again. Calm down and drink some water.
Why would you even ask this here? Go on Quora
If gook mentioned japanese war criminal or so as excuse of attack japan like him I post the truth of it for return
That’s all
nope.
Did you genuinely think 1st world countries don't have ghettos and poor areas and the like in urban areas?
stop making shit bait threads you kike
It's all about inferiority complex we Japanese have. We Japanese are butthurt about the fact that great Korea taught human culture to us monkeys.
Is it true Japanese emperor is korean origins?
About this issue korean is keep on useing the words of Emperor Akihito of japan.
In nihon shoki is saying
"10th generation descendant of King Muryeong of Baekje. She was chosen as a wife for Japanese Emperor Kōnin and subsequently became the mother of Emperor Kanmu"
And this is what our Emperor Akihito mentions that " we had korean princess at past Family line" based on the nihon shoki.
if korean is useing the words from Nihon Shoki, it have to accept the other part of the nihon shoki ,Kojiki and Samguk Sagi.
Especially "SAMGUK SAGI."
IT'S KOREAN OLDESAT HISTRICAL RECORD. As useing primary evidence of ancient korean history.
Let’s see what other part of this Samguk sagi ,Kojiki and nihon shoki is saying.
1. Brown, Delmer M. (1993). The Cambridge History of Japan: Ancient Japan. Cambridge University Press. p. 141. ISBN 0-521-22352-0. Faced with this comeback by Koguryo, Paekche leaders turned to Yamato for military support, even sending its crown prince to Yamato as a hostage in 397 - just as Silla had dispatched princely hostage to Koguryo in 392 when that kingdom was in dire need of military support.
1. Pratt, Keith (2007). Everlasting Flower: A History of Korea. Reaktion Books. p. 42. ISBN 1-86189-335-3. We can only guess, for example, what it felt like for the girls periodically sent as brides to foreign courts, for the crown prince of Paekche when he was dispatched to the Yamato court as a hostage in AD 397, or for a Silla prince who experienced the same fate in 402.
Also Samguk Sagi korean oldest histrical record is saying one of the king of silla korea is Japanese.
Talhae of silla
[1] (The name of the kingdom is Dapana-guk 다파나국 多婆那國"Dapana Country" according to Samguk Sagi,
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hae_of_Silla
there are no ghettos/poor areas here
If South Korea is not a first world country in terms of GDP per capita then Japan is not a first world country either. There is only marginal difference between two countries in terms of GDP per capita and HDI is also same between two countries.
Summary of the Context of Kojiki ,nihon shoki from japan and Samguk sagi from korea.
(This is understanding of whole world historians.
the Three Kingdoms period of Korea, )
Baekjeand Silla sent their princes to the Wa Japsn court as an hostage in exchange for military support to continue their already-begun military campaigns around 400.[17][18] But, The influence from Japan to the South Korean Peninsula was also strong. for that reason,On the other hand, From Japan to the South Korean Peninsula.Some historians study that their domination, culture and influence were also strong. China and Japan are the ones where the oldest earthenware in East Asia is currently found. Unconditionally, The answer to say that cultures were transferred from the Korean Peninsula to Japan is premature.
Uija, the last king of Baekje (reigned 641-660), formed an alliance with Japan and made Prince Buyeo Pung and King Zenko stay there as their hostages. In 660, Baekje fell when it was attacked by Silla, who was in alliance with Tang China. Former generals of Baekje, including Gwisil Boksin, asked Japan to return Prince Buyeo Pung and asked military aid. In 663, Japan, supporting Baekje, was defeated by the allied forces of Silla and Tang China in the Korean Peninsula (the Battle of Baekgang), and the restoration of Baekje ended up in failure. While at the same time hostility between Japan and Silla escalated.
Japanese Empress Jitōhonored King Zenko by giving him the hereditary title of Kudara no Konikishi and allowed him to pass on his royal lineage to future generations.
Takano no Niigasa came from a background of the naturalized clansmen Yamato-no-Fumito (大和史) and was a 10th-generation descendant of King Muryeong of Baekje. She was chosen as a wife for Japanese Emperor Kōnin and subsequently became the mother of Emperor Kanmu.[19][20]
Seoul is the most soulless, self-obsessed, manufactured, superficial, pretentious, judgmental, inward-looking city on the planet. If it matters - I really liked Busan, Gyeong-ju, and everywhere else I visited in Korea. But I will never visit Seoul again.
Tokyo is a very unique city, and a wonderful place to travel, but is also one of the most isolating for foreigners.
If I were you, I'd avoid the immediately obvious megacities and pick something like Sapporo or Daejeon.
Dumb niptard doesnt know the difference between GDP per capita and wages or HDI when we surpassed in wages years ago because our workers actually get compensated better for their output.
>HDI
someone mentioned HDI?
Obviously not all. I don't imagine places like Denmark or Norway having them but that isn't the case for other countries (I don't think you need me to name some of them).
It's why I consider places like Japan, SK, France, Germany, UK, America, Canada, Portugal, Hungary etc to be pseudo first world countries. They can do so much better.
HDI is a meme anyways. Inequality adjusted is even worse.
Korean economical bubble grows is fucking ended.
If you can’t believe anything but number of the chart of the stuck price is only truth,
Korea has no future just all of korean company will replaced by China.
No
2017
Japanese GDP per capita is ranked 23
38,448
Arround the same level of UK and UAE
Korean GDP per capita is ranked 27
29,938
Poorer than Puerto Rico in GDP per capita. And arround the same of Spain
In GDP ranking
Japan is third biggest GDP japan alone.
Korea is 11th place.
How you can say korea is better nation than japan as always saying so?
what kind of delusion is it?
Korean economical bubble grows is fucking ended.
If you can’t believe anything but number of the chart of the stuck price is only truth
Korea has no future just all of korean company will replaced by China.
So in GDP per capita is saying,
japan and Korea is as different as UK and Spain
How you can say korea is better nation than japan as always saying so?
what kind of delusion is it?
Korean economical bubble grows is fucking ended.
If you can’t believe anything but number of the chart of the stuck price is only truth
do you have a job? i see you everyday here